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Most to Least Reliable Polls (2008)

Re: Most to Least Reliable Polls (2008)

  • Thanks for this post.  That just proves my Rassmusen poll point from the post below.  HA!  and someone last week said I couldn't use it as a source because it was too republican leaning.
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  • vlag, I don' think anyone believes you can't use a republican leaning source, I think that they want you to consider the context.  If 5 polls say "x" and your 1 poll says "y" then it's weird to assume the result is "y" and discount the other 5.  

    I think you should also realize that 2008 results don't say much about 2012 polls.  We know that Rasmussen is a valid poll, but it may or may not be amongst the most accurate this time around.

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    vlag, I don' think anyone believes you can't use a republican leaning source, I think that they want you to consider the context.  If 5 polls say "x" and your 1 poll says "y" then it's weird to assume the result is "y" and discount the other 5.  

    I think you should also realize that 2008 results don't say much about 2012 polls.  We know that Rasmussen is a valid poll, but it may or may not be amongst the most accurate this time around.

    I agree with this. In the reading that I've been doing here and in general, it is recommended to take an average of a bunch of polls, not just one or two.

    Vlag - I like that poll result too :) 

  • You're referring to the outdated, invalid Fordham "Initial Report." This preliminary report was compiled in the hours following the 2008 election, long before all ballots had been counted.

    Calculations in this Initial Report were done using an ESTIMATE of a 6.15 Obama winning margin. However, when all the votes were tallied, Obama ACTUALLY won by a 7.2 margin.

    Fordham later released a complete analysis based on the official popular vote count for 2008. http://www.fordham.edu/images/academics/graduate_schools/gsas/elections_and_campaign_/2008 poll accuracy panagopoulos.pdf
  • It's also extremely dangerous to base reliability strictly off one election.

    I believe Nate Silver's model looks at all the data it can when giving a pollster a weight. For example, special elections and primaries add data to consider. 

    -My son was born in April 2012. He pretty much rules. -This might be the one place on the internet where it's feasible someone would pretend to be an Adult Man.
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    It's also extremely dangerous to base reliability strictly off one election.

    I believe Nate Silver's model looks at all the data it can when giving a pollster a weight. For example, special elections and primaries add data to consider. 

    Who do you think will win electoral votes?

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    imageLuckyDad:

    It's also extremely dangerous to base reliability strictly off one election.

    I believe Nate Silver's model looks at all the data it can when giving a pollster a weight. For example, special elections and primaries add data to consider. 

    Who do you think will win electoral votes?

    I posted my election predictions on AndrewBreitbart's thread. At this point I don't even see the Electoral count being all that close. I think the popular vote is gonna be tight though. It's actually feasible Romney will lose the electoral vote but win the popular vote. That might be the final nail in the coffin for the Electoral College. Democrats are still mad about Bush v. Gore, and having a second election in less than 15 years be flipped by the electoral college is likely to really stir the pot.

    -My son was born in April 2012. He pretty much rules. -This might be the one place on the internet where it's feasible someone would pretend to be an Adult Man.
  • I don't even have to read the link or this thread to know that this is going to show that the polls showing Republicans/Romney winning are the most accurate while anything showing Democrats/Obama winning must be inaccurate.

     

    Am I right? 

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