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companies that plan massive layoffs
is this a non-biased enough source for your guys? How can anyone think that obamacare would not kill jobs?
Re: companies that plan massive layoffs
The Washington Times is a conservative news source with dubious journalistic credentials.
But I'm more interested in the source of their information here.
It seems like all of the companies listed are related to medical devices.
Of course those would lose money with ACA. They won't be paid $1100 for a scalpel.
From the link within that article:
The majority of the job losses will come from Beaverton, Oregon, where Welch Allyn plans to close a factory. About 160 workers will lose their jobs when the factory that makes wireless portable patient monitors closes, Meyer said.
Production of those products will move to Skaneateles, he said. At the same time, the company will move its remaining thermometer probe cover, lamp and some of its blood pressure cuff production to its factory in Tijuana, Mexico, Meyer said. That factory opened about seven years ago, he said.
The Oregon employees will be given an opportunity to transfer to Skaneatles, Meyer said. The company plans to keep the Beaverton offices open as one of three new product development and technology centers. The others will be in Skaneatles and Singapore. The company will also create a global finance shared service center in Tijuana, Mexico.
The changes will help Welch Allyn better position itself to extend further into the emerging markets of Brazil, China, India and Russia, he said.
So...not really about Obamacare at all.
WT is the Fox News of newspapers.
And the list was compiled by Freedom Works... http://www.freedomworks.org/about/about-freedomworks
So as at your question about unbiased sources...no.
And the companies are admittedly laying off proactively. Proactive layoff means it is reactionary and not based on actual losses.
All news sources tend to be biased one way or the other. It gets old on this board when all liberal news is deemed true and all non-liberal sources are biased.
If the liberals can choose their sources so can the conservatives.
If someone posted something from MSNBC on here, I'd call 'em out as a super-liberal news source.
There's a difference between NPR and Fox News/Chicago Progressive Radio.
According to you and your opinion is gospel?
No. The gospel is not true; what I'm saying is.
I was thinking the same thing! They exude the same tenor of bitterness.
AB is probably at home still yelling that the polls are all wrong except Ram. and that was the worst polling firm in 2012 (from what I have read).
Interesting information, misleading headline.
Many of the companies listed either cite the ACA as one factor of many or the rising cost of health insurance, which was already an issue before the ACA. For example, Boston Scientific has been a garbage company for years, slowly circling down the drain. They were going to lay people off anyways, the ACA is just an excuse.
There probably does need to be a little tweaking to the ACA, assuming republicans are willing to play ball and pass a modified bill rather than digging their heels in. There are some cases where new hiring will be disincentivized by the ACA, and obviously no one wants that. The ACA is far from perfect, but it's not going to kill many jobs in net, and probably will help control medical and insurance costs.
OK, forget about the source and just go to the original source, the company statements. Which themselves show that it's not really about Obamacare or Obama's reelection at all, even if they try to use it as an excuse.
Wait. We need your sources for your opinion. Many unbaised sources please.
Are you drunk?
Bitter. Party of one.
Why thank you very much. It's kind of what I think about the liberals every day, but their's is not very funny.
Someone's feisty after Tuesday's big loss. I like it,
Liberals are funnier than Conservatives.
Source: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-humor-code/201211/who-is-funnier-democrats-or-republicans
Psychology Today isn't a valid source!!!
It's the TMZ of psychology rags.
Stop bullying me!!1!1!!!1!
just trying to be fair and balanced
You realize Page 2 leads to a page with the headline "Freedom Works: Lower Taxes, Less Government, More Freedom"....right?
Restaurants like Red Lobster, Olive Garden, etc, very rarely have full-time waitstaff anyway, because they didn't want to pay for benefits BEFORE ACA happened. Same with grocery stores discussing hourly employees and janitorial contractors. Very rarely are any of these people hired with full time hours. This is a fallacy.
Also, your unbiased source ended with the lines, "Now we must accept the inevitable. Welcome to mourning in America." Try again.
This has been happening for a while now, except they do it not to avoid penalties but just to avoid giving their employees benefits and to save money (part time workers often make less hourly than full-time workers).
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/business/a-part-time-life-as-hours-shrink-and-shift-for-american-workers.html?pagewanted=all
It's all about making as much money as possible for businesses and their owners. Employees aren't people, they're just interchangeable parts.
Here's some facts that a poster on ProBoards put together about Papa John's:
John doesn't own all of the Papa Johns in the US as many of them are franchised. He only "owns" the corporate stores, so he would only be responsible for providing health care to those employees and presumably it's up to the franchisee owners whether they want to raise their pizza prices at THOSE stores. So far, I haven't heard a collective weeping from the franchise owners so it's unclear whether they share in his assholery.According to the 2011 annual report, Papa Johns only owns 628 stores (either in whole or in part internationally) and only 582 are wholly corporate owned in the US. The rest of the nearly 4000 stores are franchise stores that are owner operated a kick back 5% of their profits to corporate.
Papa Johns restaurants are almost exclusively delivery and take out only, so they have less workforce overhead than places like Pizza Hut or CPK, neither of which have indicated that they will have to raise the price of their pizzas to pay for Obamacare.
Moreover, most of Papa John's stores' approximately 20-25 employees are already part time and wouldn't qualify for "Obamacare."
In 2011, each of the 582 corporate owned stores had sales of roughly $900K or 523,800,000. Roughly half a billion dollars in pizza sales. Each of those stores had approximately 151,320,000 in "investment costs." So, still $372,480,000 for shareholders.
Despite PJ's disdain for Obama, PJ stock is actually higher now than it was at the height of the market under Bush. So PJ might hate Obama, but its shareholders don't. This is probably because revenues increased under Obama a whopping 8.1% for this company in 2011 alone.
Read more:http://pandce.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=88002&page=2#ixzz2BwMdSdwO
Ergo, I vote the man is just an a-hole.