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NRA...
?Never put off till tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow.?
Re: NRA...
OK. But about movie theaters, and malls? And VT has armed police on campus, and that didn't help.
Thanks NRA for your wonderful "solution" to the problem.
It's a GIRL!
They sound so ridiculous...
I'm assuming NRA members will pay for all these school guards? What about shopping malls, sports arenas, school bus stops, sidewalks and street corners? And who will guard the guards?
A friend on FB said "Lets do some quick math to figure out how much the NRA's plan to put an armed officer in every school in the U.S. may cost taxpayers: You'd have to pay each officer at least $40k a year plus benefits, so conservatively $50k. There are are about 100,000 public schools in the U.S. That's $5 billion."
Just wondering who would foot the bill for that.
I think it would be cheaper to have some stronger gun regulations.
It's a GIRL!
This. What flucking idiots. It's not like the majority of people in this country killed by guns every year are killed in schools.
Now this is a situational and totally reactive response. Let's appeal to the hearts of parents all over the country and assure you- your child won't be next!
Unless they're at the movies. Or the mall. Or a place of worship. Or a friend's house because someone didn't properly store their weapon.
And to think these people are in high positions that deals with GUNS! (sigh)
I agree with all of this. They said "the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun." I have so many issues with that statement (not to mention how offensive it is to women law enforcement agents) -- they can't just attempt to have more "good guys with guns" without addressing the "bad guys with guns" -- we need to at least attempt to get guns away from "bad guys" as they call them. They needed to at least say "we agree with limiting certain weapons." Their response was defiant and offensive.
Most high schools already have Resource Officers (at least my DD's and niece's high school does) so the cost might not be a high as on would think. Not that I necessarily agree with this idea. But if you think about it for a minute, schools are an easy target because the gunman knows he will not encounter resistance. Maybe an armed officer would give a "bad guy" pause.
I didn't even catch that.. Probably was because I was fuming.. Good one!
And women criminals.
No, but seriously- great, a deterrent for crazed gunman to go into schools.
So now they'll look for the next place where they can't expect to find unarmed people? What will that be, churches? Better start arming the ministers and priests. And rabbis and imams.
Or they'll just go back to dark movie theaters where they know it'll be chaos. Or malls, because they're crowded.
Seriously, the NRA thinks this is about gun violence in schools? Heads.so far.up asses.
edit: I can say asses? nice!
Okay, but Sandy Hook was an elementary school. So the fact that some high schools can currently afford to have Resource Officers is moot.
In my state, funding for public education has been cut over and over. As a parent, I would much rather have any extra money available go towards supplies and teacher salary.
I also challenge the assertion that criminals see schools as easy targets. Really? What criminals have told you this? Most schools have security measures, including locked doors. One armed security guard is not going to fare well against a psycho who chooses to shoot up a school.
The problem is the psycho getting access to the guns in the first place - a security guard would probably end up dead, armed or not.
LaPierre can go f'uck himself.
I was willing to give the NRA a listen. Now, they have earned my everlasting ire.
I hope this causes the NRA numbers to go down dramatically. Unfortunately, I don't think it will.
Let's blame:
The media
Mentally ill people (they totally need to be in a database, guise)
Video games
Ladyfolk
Not having enough guns in schools
Totally innocent in this entire thing:
Guns.
What The Actual F'uck?
Well said. I am so aggravated I can't think straight.
totally agreed -- It was a ridiculous rant. My aunt (who lives in Europe) refuses to visit our family in the US claiming that it's like the wild wild west here with all the guns. I used to make fun of her for saying that. Now, sadly, I think she was right all along...
Columbine had an armed officer on campus. He shot at one of the kids 4x, missed, the kid turned around and took shots at him, then ran back into the school. He didn't drop his gun and surrender, he kept going.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/columbine.cd/Pages/DEPUTIES_TEXT.htm
i heard that on the news today. also they said it would cost around $7 million to fund this and volunteers may be needed
They already are targeting churches....
A man fatally shot a woman decorating for a children's Christmas party at a tiny church hall and killed two men elsewhere in a rural central Pennsylvania township Friday before he was fatally shot in a gunfight with state troopers.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/21/4-dead-including-gunman-in-rural-pennsylvania-shooting/#ixzz2FjfHLG7Q
*scratches head in confusion*
But... but... I thought putting guns in every school was going to solve all our problems?!?
You're saying there is already gun violence in other places?!?
Better tell the NRA that so they can cook up some more brilliant strategies!
FTFY.
There is no way it would only cost $7 million. I'm assuming that's a typo.
Also, the NRA can go f themselves. I don't know how these PR shills for the gun manufacturers can look at themselves in the mirror.
Where in the *** did I say that putting guns in school would solve all the problems? You mentioned churches, there just happened to be a church shooting today.
There was also the Sikh temple shooting a few months ago but (unsurprisingly in this country), we've mostly forgotten it already.
I didn't say you said that, the NRA implied it through their dumbass statement today. And statements like this:
"But if you think about it for a minute, schools are an easy target because the gunman knows he will not encounter resistance"
make it sound like there's some huge conspiracy to target schools, which there really isn't. Thus the point that the NRA 'strategy' is flucking useless and is wholly focused on this one incident while they completely ignore that people are getting killed in other places like malls, movie theaters, and places of worship.
That's what happens when you take God out of churches.
I flucking hate the NRA. I can't believe this was their actual response to Sandy Hook. They literally want to turn elementary school safety into an arms race.
I'm also pissed because I've really evolved my gun control stance to accomodate those I disagree with. After last week I just felt like enough is enough, we all need to make concessions in order to make progress. And then the fcuking NRA can't pull their heads out of their assses far enough to even entertain a legitimate compromise.
So, fcuk 'em.
Shameless stereotyping of millions of Americans (including my DH, sort of), but it made me chuckle.
(no, I don't think you're stupid just because you own a gun)
sorry, it was $6.7 billion. source is below
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/nra-breaks-silence-newtown-school-shooting-18040589
I know i'm in the minority here, but honestly I think it would be good to have security in the public schools. Yeah, Columbine had security when they were shot, but that was also during the time when assault weapons were banned under the Clinton Admin. Already in some parts of TX, faculty members can carry guns. I'm not saying that should happen, but it's already happening. go ahead ladies, Flame away:)
edited: I should also clarify I think it should just be 1 security guy who is there for the whole day. why it would cost so much is probably because they want it to be like the TSA of the airport situation. I don't think all that is necessary
It costs so much because there are 100,000 schools in the US. There's no way to do this cheaply. Aren't you supposed to be fiscally conservative?
it's one tax i wouldn't mind paying. just like how you guys wouldn't mind paying to help others get good health care