Jan8: Bearing Fruit

Jan8

cincychick35:

Jan8:

cincychick35:

JeniLovesNeil:

cincychick35:

Yes. This is pushing my religion on others. That I agree with but the secular argument for raising taxes is that we are spending more than we take in. I believe that is what Obama and democrats were arguing as a reason to raise taxes. I was just speaking at it from a Christian perspective and how I believe it aligns with my faith. I do think the govt should stick to secular reasons. 

 

Then why in the HEII are they not cutting spending?  No, let's just ravage and pillage the rich people and spend all of their money. 

Yeah, Obama raised taxes because he felt it was the Christian thing to do...whatever. 

You seem to have forgotten the years 2000 through 2008. 

I have not forgotten, and just because a Republican was in office doesn't make it right.

We are on an unsustainable path of spending in this country.  When I look at my family budget and there is more money going out than coming in...it is just common sense to stop spending.  I will never understand why that doesn't apply to the government.

I have no problem cutting defense.  In fact, I believe we should cut one penny our of every dollar we spend on EVERYTHING  for six years and then cap spending at 18 percent of GDP...by 2019 we could have a balanced budget.

I don't give a rats azz who is in the white house.  Something has to change. 

So you don't have cc debt?  I thought I read differently on the mm board. Not to be personal but don't act like you looked at your budget and decided not to spend. I have debt too. A mortgage. As you know, sometimes in life we buy things and pay for it later. 

I think the govt needs to live within its means but don't act like you looked at your budget and decided not to spend. Why even lie? 

I have no reason to lie, yes I do have debt (too much).  But you fail to mention the steps I am taking to rid myself of the debt.  Perhaps you missed the post on MM where I am working 3 jobs and DH is working 2...or maybe you missed the post where we are now following Dave Ramsey's TMM plan.  But sure, that wouldn't help your argument to note I am taking personal responsibility for the bad choices I have made. So much for not judging others....but OK.

So, while I do have debt, I certainly don't have 16 trillion.  Hell, the government couldn't even qualify for a mortgage because their DTI is over 50%.  

The way you make it sound, just because I have debt I have no room to speak about the government being in debt.  On the contrary, I think it qualifies me MORE to speak about how dangerous being too much in debt is....because I have lived it.  I can say unequivocally it is an unsustainable path.  And just like I took responsibility for my personal finances, I feel the government should do the same. 

 

You said, when I look at my family budget is there is more money going out than coming in, it makes sense to stop spending. I will never understand why that doesn't apply to the govt.

If you have debt, it wasn't always such common sense at the time or you felt it was just unavoidable. A lot of people have emergencies. The govt has what it deems as emergencies. They did not know super storm Sandy was going to come 10 years ago. Bush deemed Iraq to be an energency. Very high unemployment was an emergency as well. So I don't personally understand your emergency exception for you but not for the govt.

Congrats on taking steps to get out of debt. I think it's really great. While it can be difficult, it is very rewarding and I wish you much success.