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C-section question - Abington Hosp

I had a C with J because I couldn't dilate past 5cm and I was up on my 24 hour limit (my water broke).  No fetal distress, but they think it could have been caused by J's chin being tilted up into my pelvis and not tucked to his chest.  Anyway, I'm cleared for a VBAC and that's what I would like to attempt.

However, if I have to have another C,  I would really like to not have my arms tied down and want to do skin to skin contact right away.  Anyone deliver at Abington and have a C where this was the case?  I'm not sure if it's doctor policy or hospital policy.  My SIL had a C at Capital Health in NJ and her arms were not tied down and she got to hold her baby right away.

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#1  12.11.11
#2  10.23.13 EDD

Re: C-section question - Abington Hosp

  • My sister had a c/s at Abington. She was scheduled. I asked her and she told me that her arms weren't tied down, just laid out  (Jesus on the cross style). After she was born, they took her to weigh her/ clean her. Her husband cut the cord, and then brought her to my sister. They took her back while  stitching up my sister.  Then my sister had her whole being taken to recovery. She had her often and as mu h as possible during those first moments I think.
  • I don't know about Abington but I have heard of Gentle Cesareans becoming more popular and accepted. I think you'd really have to talk to your doctor because hospital policy is what gets in the way most.
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  • It's up to the pain meds doctor. I just asked like eighty times and he made me feel the side of the bed to see how small and of I squirmed they were getting locked down. 
  • Arms tied down while being cut open while awake? Holy smokes I would have legit had a panic attack. Wow. I give you credit. I don't have any info to help you out here, but praying you don't have to go through that again. 
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  • I didn't deliver at Abington so this will be irrelevant.

    My hands weren't strapped down, but there is no way I would have been able to hold DD right away.  Maybe it's because I had an emergency c/s, maybe because of the spinal...not sure.  But I was shaking violently and also vomiting during the entire thing. I also couldn't even see her because they made me remove my glasses before entering the OR.  

     

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    Arms tied down while being cut open while awake? Holy smokes I would have legit had a panic attack.

    This was my thought exactly! I am now officially even more terrified to give birth!

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    Arms tied down while being cut open while awake? Holy smokes I would have legit had a panic attack. Wow. I give you credit. I don't have any info to help you out here, but praying you don't have to go through that again. 

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  • Mine weren't tied down. I would have freaked. But I wasn't able to hold her at first. My husband had her and brought her close.

    I would be surprised if a hospital let you do it while still being worked on. They need you to be still because they're working on you and there's a risk you'll drop the baby. 

    That said it can't hurt to ask about policy. It's prob gonna depend on the anesthesiologist and the circulating nursing staff in the OR more then your doc. 

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  • imagemartinsgirls:

    imageHeatherWain:
    Arms tied down while being cut open while awake? Holy smokes I would have legit had a panic attack.

    This was my thought exactly! I am now officially even more terrified to give birth!

    Yup. Same experience before being put under to have my gallbladder removed. I'm pretty sure I did start to panic, so they got me under quickly, but it's an experience that still bothers me. I'm terrified of the possibility of needing a c-section. 

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  • It's totally common to be strapped down during surgery. It's just different bc you're awake. They gotta make sure you don't fall and your arms stay put since you have iv's running into them usually.The tables are skinny, too. Your legs are strapped too but you don't feel it due to anesthesia.
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    imagemartinsgirls:

    imageHeatherWain:
    Arms tied down while being cut open while awake? Holy smokes I would have legit had a panic attack.

    This was my thought exactly! I am now officially even more terrified to give birth!

    Yup. Same experience before being put under to have my gallbladder removed. I'm pretty sure I did start to panic, so they got me under quickly, but it's an experience that still bothers me. I'm terrified of the possibility of needing a c-section. 

    I had to get a benign tumor removed from my left boob when I was ~22 years old or so and I was crying like a freaking baby as they were strapping my arms down on the table. It was so bad that I was all stuffed up with a runny nose and the anesthesiologist yelled at me and was like, "YOU DON"T HAVE A COLD, DO YOU?!!!" And I was like, "No, I'm just crying because I'm scared." lol I fell asleep shortly after she yelled at me. 

    With that said, the thought of being cut open while awake is terrifying for me, too. It's actually a huge reason having #3 isn't even on my radar at this point. I've been blessed to have two via the vaginal highway. I'd love to keep it that way. I'm telling you... I would probably have to be fully knocked out if I ever had a c-section. scared. to. death. I give C moms so much credit. They are braver than I, that's for sure. 

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  • imageHeatherWain:
    imageNewQueen:
    imagemartinsgirls:

    imageHeatherWain:
    Arms tied down while being cut open while awake? Holy smokes I would have legit had a panic attack.

    This was my thought exactly! I am now officially even more terrified to give birth!

    Yup. Same experience before being put under to have my gallbladder removed. I'm pretty sure I did start to panic, so they got me under quickly, but it's an experience that still bothers me. I'm terrified of the possibility of needing a c-section. 

    I had to get a benign tumor removed from my left boob when I was ~22 years old or so and I was crying like a freaking baby as they were strapping my arms down on the table. It was so bad that I was all stuffed up with a runny nose and the anesthesiologist yelled at me and was like, "YOU DON"T HAVE A COLD, DO YOU?!!!" And I was like, "No, I'm just crying because I'm scared." lol I fell asleep shortly after she yelled at me. 

    With that said, the thought of being cut open while awake is terrifying for me, too. It's actually a huge reason having #3 isn't even on my radar at this point. I've been blessed to have two via the vaginal highway. I'd love to keep it that way. I'm telling you... I would probably have to be fully knocked out if I ever had a c-section. scared. to. death. I give C moms so much credit. They are braver than I, that's for sure. 

    Haha, I didn't have my arms strapped down and I still had an anxiety attack on the table after my husband left with the baby. I kept asking for something for anxiety and kept asking for someone to come hold my hand. I think they gave me something to settle me down but I was still terrified.  

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  • imagelarrysdarling:

    Mine weren't tied down. I would have freaked. But I wasn't able to hold her at first. My husband had her and brought her close.

    I would be surprised if a hospital let you do it while still being worked on. They need you to be still because they're working on you and there's a risk you'll drop the baby. 

    That said it can't hurt to ask about policy. It's prob gonna depend on the anesthesiologist and the circulating nursing staff in the OR more then your doc. 

    Same experience here.  I didn't get to hold her for almost 2.5 hours. After she was out I was dry heaving and really out of it, I don't think I could have physically held her if I wanted to.  I hated I had to wait that long though and when the next one comes along, I will fight harder to get the skin to skin / feeding in asap.  I had a scheduled one at Lankenau.

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  • I think this was a bonus of having a midwife too when p left with m she sat next to me and talked to me let me know what was going to happen etc. . Although the biggest thing I remember is being cold. Freezing cold. Ugh. I hate thinking about how cold I was. 
  • imageletranger:
    I think this was a bonus of having a midwife too when p left with m she sat next to me and talked to me let me know what was going to happen etc. . Although the biggest thing I remember is being cold. Freezing cold. Ugh. I hate thinking about how cold I was. 

    ugh I block that part out. Awful. I hated that too. 

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    imageletranger:
    I think this was a bonus of having a midwife too when p left with m she sat next to me and talked to me let me know what was going to happen etc. . Although the biggest thing I remember is being cold. Freezing cold. Ugh. I hate thinking about how cold I was. 

    ugh I block that part out. Awful. I hated that too. 

    yup, I remember that too. before DH had his thyroid removed, they gave him some awesome sedative and he doesn't remember saying goodbye to me or anything about the OR. I wish the doctors had done the same for my surgery because I'm now terrified of having to have a c-section due to my past experience. operating rooms suck! 

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  • imageletranger:
    I think this was a bonus of having a midwife too when p left with m she sat next to me and talked to me let me know what was going to happen etc. . Although the biggest thing I remember is being cold. Freezing cold. Ugh. I hate thinking about how cold I was. 

    I wish wish I had an extra person to stay with me. I was freezing and shaking like a leaf. I didn't get to see her for 2.5 hours bc I was shaking so bad. 

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  • I consider all of you chicks lucky! I didn't get to hold Andrew until Thursday night (they were born at 9am Wednesday) and I didn't hold Colin till Friday! 

    My arms were strapped down too and the left one had a blood pressure cuff on it that went off so often my hand was itchy and burning. Thank god the dude could scratch it for me. I was also shaky and throwing up so even if I wanted to or could, I was in no condition to hold them.

    hw - it was pretty weird being awake. I was cut open and had no idea until someone told me.  

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  • imagelarrysdarling:

    imageletranger:
    I think this was a bonus of having a midwife too when p left with m she sat next to me and talked to me let me know what was going to happen etc. . Although the biggest thing I remember is being cold. Freezing cold. Ugh. I hate thinking about how cold I was. 

    I wish wish I had an extra person to stay with me. I was freezing and shaking like a leaf. I didn't get to see her for 2.5 hours bc I was shaking so bad. 

    because i also lost so much blood, i got this crazy warmer blanket heater thing once i was in recovery. of course i had no idea until way after that i was bleeding so badly.

    i honestly didn't want to hold milo either out of fear of being shaky when i breastfeed in recovery p held him and i just boobed him.  

  • I got the heater blanket too. I shook for a good two hours in recovery. 

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  • imageKernel14:
    I got the heater blanket too. I shook for a good two hours in recovery. 

    i want one of those cocoon things now.

     

    the scary thing is why hasn't a csection improved? if we are all shaking and freezing what can they do to improve the situation, make sure our upper bodies have a few blankets? better the dosage of drugs so we aren't shaking? 

  • I was shaking so bad that I thought my teeth were going to break.  They had me in the heated cocoon thing too.  I was completely knocked out for my c section but when I woke up I was in so much pain from not being numbed and shaking so bad that I had zero interest in Tommy.  I still feel guilty about that to this day.  Such a crappy experience.  If I ever get lucky enough to have another child I would love to do a drug free vbac.  
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    imageKernel14:
    I got the heater blanket too. I shook for a good two hours in recovery. 

    i want one of those cocoon things now.

     

    the scary thing is why hasn't a csection improved? if we are all shaking and freezing what can they do to improve the situation, make sure our upper bodies have a few blankets? better the dosage of drugs so we aren't shaking? 

    From a clinical perspective I don't know what they can do. They keep OR's cold to decrease bacterial growth. Perhaps they could keep it cold when it's empty and warm it up while operating. Studies have shown that patients that are warmer do better during and after surgery. It's tough w/ csection because you're basically naked from the breasts down.  The only part that can be covered is your upper chest and neck. Otherwise you're completely exposed to temps in the 60's.

    As far as the meds go, not everyone gets the shakes like that and some people do get the shakes when they have an epi with a vag delivery. Everyone reacts differently to anesthesia. Some of it can also be due to hormone surges after birth and loss of blood and fluids.  

    I would be very interested in finding out if there's a particular medication that makes us shake - not all epis are the same, the 'epidural' refers to the placement of the catheter not the type of medication running through it. Some have different side effects then others. I think a lot has to with anesthesiologist preference and hospital formulary as well.

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    I consider all of you chicks lucky! I didn't get to hold Andrew until Thursday night (they were born at 9am Wednesday) and I didn't hold Colin till Friday! 

    My arms were strapped down too and the left one had a blood pressure cuff on it that went off so often my hand was itchy and burning. Thank god the dude could scratch it for me. I was also shaky and throwing up so even if I wanted to or could, I was in no condition to hold them.

    hw - it was pretty weird being awake. I was cut open and had no idea until someone told me.  

    DD was born 2:59am and I didn't get to hold her until 11pm that night.  She was in the NICU and I was still vomiting and nauseous from the c/s and meds.  I literally could not get out of bed any earlier to go see her.  I tried at 9am and started vomiting and then was put into some induced state of sleep for 8ish hours.  It was horrible.

    I don't want a c/s again but I was told in the OR that no baby skull would ever fit through my pubic arch.  Isn't that lovely. 

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