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"Armed Revolution" to Protect Liberties???
Interesting. Kind of odd, though.
I saw this on FoxNews. Poll conducted by Fairleigh Dickinson University http://www.fdu.edu/
Brief: This is from a late April poll of 863 registered voters. Of the 29% who said an "armed revolution" may be necessary to protect liberties, just 44% were Republicans. 47% said "no" to an armed revolution being necessary. The remaining percentage, weren't sure or declined to comment (24% [pretty high percentage, IMO]).
Article:
"We knew distrust of government was high. But a new poll shows that suspicion reaching new levels.
According to a survey from Fairleigh Dickinson University, nearly a third of registered voters -- 29 percent -- believe an "armed revolution" might be necessary in the next few years in order to protect liberties.
The poll from the university's PublicMind explored perceptions regarding Congress' latest gun control push as well as the Sandy Hook mass shooting. That legislative push, launched in the wake of the Connecticut shooting, fizzled last month after the Senate blocked a bill that would have expanded background checks.
The poll showed 50 percent of voters still believe Congress should pass laws to protect the public from gun violence, while 39 percent say the opposite. But there is a huge partisan divide. Among Republicans, 65 percent don't see new laws as necessary.
And the survey could help explain why applications for gun permits have hit record highs and retailers report ammo has been flying off the shelves. Not only are gun owners worried about new gun laws, but the poll suggests some voters think a revolution could be on the horizon.
Asked whether an armed revolution might soon be necessary to protect liberties, 29 percent said yes.
Another 47 percent said no, while the rest were either unsure or declined to answer.
Of those who said yes, 44 percent were Republicans. Most of those who said yes also did not support more gun control legislation.
The poll of 863 registered voters was conducted April 22-28. It had a margin of error of 3.4 percentage points."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/02/poll-shows-2-percent-voters-think-armed-revolution-might-be-needed/#ixzz2SFiPABIO
Re: "Armed Revolution" to Protect Liberties???
Isn't there a saying about history repeating itself and things coming full circle? We are a country divided and it feels like the "powers that be" continue to drive an ever bigger wedge everyday.
I can where people might feel this way.
I don't disagree. But, Fox didn't do this poll - they just reported it.
The poll was done out of a university in NJ.
Also, if there is a statistical sample taken of registered voters, how does fear mongering apply? People are simply answering a set of questions. Is it fear mongering to take the statistical evidence and report it as numerical data?
I feel like fear mongering would be commentary beyond the numbers...like voicing opinions based on emotions.
This is just numbers.
Right but they chose to report on it. The fear mongering refers to how those numbers even exist. If you ask the people who responded that an armed revolution was likely what news network they most often watch, I would bet a lot of money that the majority would say Fox. I'm just speculating of course but I wouldn't be surprised.
I find the blood lust of that 29% to be disgusting. Armed revolution? People are so upset with our government that they are willing to bring more violence to the streets and put the lives of their families and their neighbors at risk? That's the tactic that they think will help the future of this country?
How about educating people tirelessly on your positions? How about peaceful protests that bring awareness? How about exercising your right to vote? I am so upset with the legislature in my state right now (only bright spot is that people from both parties are dissing these fools) but armed revolt as a way to change things never crossed my mind. That's barbaric. Citizen turning on citizen.
ETA: I also think 837 people is a horrible sample size on which to draw a conclusion that 29% of the electorate is for armed revolution.
I agree it's barbaric but people get crazy and start looting and other things. I hear there was looting after the sandy storm. sometimes I wish we could just move to the mountains or somewhere very discreet in order to get away from all this crap
I am not saying this is right or wrong. But if you think about it...without the American Revolution would we even be the United States? I think more and more people become more fearful of the government and feel the US is becoming something is was not intended to be.
You don't think it's wrong for people to incite more violence for a perceived threat on liberties? Sigh. There's no need for an "armed revolution" here folks....let's everybody simma down na...:)
Where in the article that is says definitely we need an Armed Revolution? What I am reading is that some people believe it will come to that point. And my "right or wrong" comment was more of me saying I was not making a judgement on what these people believe not actually saying it is right or it is wrong.
I was referring to your "but if you think about it" explanation. It seemed to me you would condone it. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but mine happens to be that I think that kind of violent/revolutionary attitude is wrong. That's all.
Well I don't condone violence either. All I was saying is one could draw parallels to the atmosphere prior to the American Revolution and what is currently happening in the USA now (an America divided) and that I can see why some people might think (although I do not agree with violence) a revolution may be the only way out.
Here are the original results of the poll:
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2013/guncontrol/final.pdf
Shockingly enough, those who most agree with the revolution question are the least educated, and the most educated respondents were least likely to agree about revolution.
Same with the Sandy Hook "truthers" - your typical Sandy Hook "truther" has less than a high school education. Surprise surprise.
I find it interesting that Fox News chose not to report that only 18% of Democrat respondents agreed with the revolution question while 44% of Republican respondents agreed. They also chose not to report that agreeing with the need for armed revolution is inversely associated with education (i.e. the less education you have, the more likely you are to agree about armed revolution).
Seems pretty in line with the BS that Fox News spouts (and spouts primarily at a Republican, less-educated audience). The fear mongering here is coming from Fox and is reflected in these polls, not the other way around.
speaking of fear mongering, my mom is totally paranoid these days. She doesn't watch any news network anymore and instead watches youtube for her information now. she says you can't trust the govt. She thinks the boston bombings were faked by the gvt. and the day the city was shut down was for their marshall law practice. Then she thinks a missile hit the fertilizer plant in TX that same week. She showed me the you tube videos. I was shocked how many people thought it was a conspiracy.
last week we went to the mall and spent the day together. By the end of the day I was exhausted listening to it all.
So, the bolded begs a question...
Would the American Revolution not have occurred if the colonials were more educated? The vast majority of people living in the Colonies had little to no educations and at most it was probably reading, writing, and basic math.
GR, why do you think there is a correlation between less formal education and higher reporting of a possible "armed revolution" being a necessity?
I get so tired of the party line that conservatives are uneducated dummies.
That is not true in my experience. I have two advanced degrees and still believe in the conservative worldview. When I look at my H.S. class, it is interesting that the top ten are all conservatives while the liberals come from the bottom of the class.
One reason though that many might become liberal as they attend college is the completely liberal atmosphere there. College professors are becoming more and more radical in their leftist views and convey that to their students.
Those who can think for themselves don't just automatically fall for that crap.
Honestly, I don't know. Most of the people in the colonies weren't educated, but the people who fomented the revolution were by and large educated men (at least relative to the rest of the colonists). The Revolution didn't start with common people - it started with basically the aristocracy.
As for your second point, I think that people with less education are more likely to buy into the fearmongering about "they're coming to take your guns!' and such and thus are more likely to think that an armed revolution is coming. They're less likely to read the news, less likely to understand the basics of our government (how the executive branch balances the legislative balances the judicial, etc.).
Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support this claim?
At any rate, your post contradicts itself. First you say that liberals do not have more education than conservatives. Then you say that the reason liberals *do* have more education than conservatives is because people with college educations have been liberal-brainwashed.
At any rate, I did not argue anything about conservatives or liberals being more or less educated. What I said was that this poll showed that those who agreed with the 'armed revolution' question were less educated than those who did not. Similarly, those who believe Sandy Hook was a conspiracy also have less education than those who do not believe this. It's right there in the link to the original results, if you don't believe me.
Yeah, some of my what I thought were intelligent, fairly down-to-earth friends/acquaintances have started getting into the conspiracy theories and it's crazy. I mean, there are always nutters, but it's bad when people you thought were reasonable start believing it.
USC Professor. Fall of 2012. Trashing Republicans, calling them "racist, losers."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVyPjQki_3M
Survey done abroad about liberal professors admitteding they would show bias against conservatives in their field.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/1/liberal-majority-on-campus-yes-were-biased/
FL student refuses to step on the name of "Jesus" in a classroom exercise. Got disciplinary action. This article doesn't mention it but he was later forgiven of any wrong doing for his refusal.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/03/21/fau-student-claims-he-was-suspended-for-refusing-to-step-on-jesus/
I can probably find more "evidence."