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New guidelines for Pap Smears
I'm beyond excited of the new guidelines and thought I would share in case no one else knows. I just went to my annual a couple days ago. I'm in my 30s and only need to get a pap smear now every 3 years. If you are in your 20s it will be every 2 years. Though they still recommend coming in every year for an annual check up.
Re: New guidelines for Pap Smears
I actaully think this is horrible.
Don't get me wrong - I dislike them too - but I wonder if people will miss some diseases and not get treated. Also, many women have built the habit of going annually even though they hate it, which is good for their protection. Now that they don't ahve to go it will be easier to miss.
As someone who was diagnosed with invasive cervical cancer at age 29 - and who had perfectly normal pap smears every single year prior to that - I'm pretty disappointed in the new guidelines.
Mine was caught early, since I was getting my pap done every year. But had I gone 2-3 years before it was caught, things might not have turned out as well as they did for me.
So I'll be curious as to how the cancer mortality rate changes in response to this.
Me, too. I'm sorry you went through that but am glad you are okay. My sister had a friend who lost her 22 y/o sister to cervical cancer. It can take someone quickly.
Will this affect insurance coverage? I would still prefer to go yearly.
I'm sure these guidelines are made with the costs and benefits in mind. Yes, there will be some early cases that will be missed, but there will also be a lot of false-positives and unnecessary treatments that will be avoided too.
The mammogram guidelines changed recently for the same reasons. There were a lot of women being treated and going through invasive, dangerous medical procedures when they didn't really need to.
I think it's funny that everyone says they want to eliminate waste in healthcare spending and reduce unnecessary expensive tests and such, but when it comes to their own personal health, they want EVERY possible screening test run, regardless of the cost.
This is pretty much what my OB said to me last week as to why the guidelines changed. I was having to go every 3 months just because I had an abnormal pap. I would assume that the yearly well visit will still be covered under insurance, because that's what it is. We don't pay anything for well visits
This is pretty much what my OB said to me last week as to why the guidelines changed. I was having to go every 3 months just because I had an abnormal pap. I would assume that the yearly well visit will still be covered under insurance, because that's what it is. We don't pay anything for well visits
Honestly, my gyno appt is the only thing I do on a regular basis besides the dentist. I still don't have a PCP here and I've lived here 4 years now so I don't even get yearly physicals, though I would like to. The kind of waste I'd like to see eliminated is charging insurances $15 for a box of tissues and $600 for ibuprofen in the hospital. I'm at a point in my life where I am no longer just living for me, but also for my child(ren) and am more likely to err on the side of caution when it comes to my health where in the past I might have ignored something longer.
I can understand that, but the problem with extensive testing, is that it often reveals 'problems' that don't need to be fixed. And this leads to unnecessary treatment that can be more dangerous to your health and life than simply leaving it alone. It's just not a "find it or not" kind of equation - there are so many variables and so many factors to consider. That's what a lot of people missed about the mammogram thing - it's not always and invariably better to find every possible problem as quickly as possible. Sometimes it's actually better *not* to find and treat issues because you go through more pain and risks than if you'd just left it alone or never found it to begin with.
But it's hard to know what's right, and that's why it's so scary. It's just so complicated.
WHHHHAAAT??! It's not a good thing to catch ovarian or breast cancer early on? Are you friggin' kidding me?!?
What you're saying this that people shouldn't be pap-smeared or mammogrammed because they might have extra pain and be opened to more risks? What's friggin' riskier than cancer unknown and untreated?
In an effort to save money, we skip testing and then people go without dianoses and their health care costs are increased anyways because they have to undergo major surgeries or heavy chemo and/or radiation treatments.
OH MY GOSH! I'm seriously pooping my pants right now.
NO NO NO. What we need to cut costs on are $100 600mg Ibuprophen tablets in the maternity departments.
ACTUALLY there is little statistical evidence that early detection saves lives especially when you factor in the number of women harmed through treatment for false positives. Below is a good editorial on the newest findings. Cancer is not a straight line progressive disease. Most breast cancer that is detected is going to result in a fatality anyway or is so slow moving that even very late detection would result in a favorable outcome.Just because something is the conventional train of thought doesn't make it true. It just makes it a common misconception.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/magazine/our-feel-good-war-on-breast-cancer.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Thank you for posting that - that's a great article that clarifies a lot of misconceptions about cancer.
My dentist needs to stop taking x-rays of my mouth every year. If I have a cavity or internal tooth decay, eventually I will discover it when my teeth fall out and I am in extreme pain.
This will save lots of money.
Also, my kids should top getting well-baby visits. If something is wrong, DH and I will know by a change in their behavior and the presence of a fever.
This will save lots of money too.
I think I'm also going to stop my kids from being vaccinated. I mean, polio is no longer a threat. Measles? Not really an issue in this nation.
More money saved.
I guess my parents and in-laws can forget their colonoscopies. When they start crapping blood that's when they'll know there's a problem.
Whoa more money saved.
The issue is that our nation is built all around preventative medicine and care. Why not cut it all and save the billions of dollars? Only have people expereincing actual sickness go to the doctor.
See, I think that preventative care is a good thing. I think as we remove annual pap smears and mammograms we will soon see the removal of other routine/preventative measures all in the name of saving money. This is just the jumping off point.
Is it worth it to you?
You didn't read the article, did you?
As a survivor or cervical cancer (found when I was 23 and 6 months pregnant) I will continue to have pap smears on an annual basis.