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Pictures of His Ex

I know many women have run into this problem with their Husband or Boyfriend, I honestly feel this case is different. My Husband and his ex broke up with him almost four years ago, over three and a half years ago she was killed. I understand they were close and had known each other for a long time. Recently my Husband got his laptop up and running and decided to go threw his old pictures while sitting right next to me. I can't count how many pictures he has of them together and her alone. More than enough of those pictures were of them cuddled up in bed or wrapped up in each others arms. I have tried to look past this and understand the situation. Tonight was all I could handle though I was looking for somewhere safe to put something and opened a box in our dresser only to find what looked like a prom picture of them. Have you this was an easily accessible location.

 

Now to cover a few things I have seen come up in the other forums I was looking for advise in. I personally don't save pictures of myself and my ex's, I don't see a point in hanging onto the past. I do have old prom photos, the professional ones I paid for but those are in a box in a box in our storage room. I don't care to look at them. Another thing is that I have talked to him about hanging on to her. When we first started dating him and his friends constantly talked about her, things that had happened between them, and even intimate stuff. (Nutshell story this girl got a round a bit. My Husband's best friends are her former ex's as well. Her ex-husband was the best man at our wedding. You could say she brought them all together.) I finally had a little too much to drink one night and voiced my opinion and feelings on all the chatter. We all know and agree that if she were still alive she would have tired very hard to come between us.

 

I really want to talk to my husband about all of this but I realize that this is also a very sensitive situation. I can understand a few photos but the ones of them cuddling, wrapped up in each other, or the Love Letters he has saved I can't. I don't save love letters, I burned them! I just need advice on how to handle this. We have been married for just shy of two years and I just don't know how to address something that could be so sensitive.

 

Thanks for reading my rant and plea for help.

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  • GilliCGilliC member
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    edited September 2013
    Everyone deals with their past differently. Just because you throw out pictures and burn love letters, doesn't mean that anyone who keeps them is irrational.

    I'm divorced, and I have loads of pictures of my ex. He was a very big part of my life, and I'm not going to erase those years of my life. I also have pictures of guys I dated before that, because they were part of my life too. Just because we broke up doesn't mean I don't have fond memories of things that happened around that time or that involved these men. But it also doesn't mean that I still have romantic feelings toward them and refuse to let go. I might not go so far as to hold on to cuddly in-bed photos (unless I look awesome in them and want to hang onto pictures to remind me of when I was young and hot), but they appear in a lot of photos of weddings, parties, vacations, etc. There's no way I'm going to ditch all of those pictures just because there are exes in them.

    Honestly, I think you should just let it go. What could you possibly be worried about? This woman is deceased, so unless we're talking some kind of supernatural thing, she's not going to steal your husband. (If she does, please come back and tell us about it, because even though that would suck, it would still be really cool!)

    If the cuddly pictures bother you, why don't you just ask your husband why he keeps them? It could be that he just never got around to cleaning up the hard drive and deleting them. Or maybe they remind him of a certain time in his life. Next time they show up, just ask about it casually (without being threatening or accusatory) and start a dialog. You clearly don't have anything to worry about, so why not just have an open discussion?  (But don't bring it up out of the blue or he'll know that you've been stewing over it, which could likely put him on the defensive automatically.)
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  • This is definitely a tricky situation.  I used to have issues with ex pictures, but when I met my now FI, I didn't have issues with his keeping a few pictures around.  Granted, there are very few and it might have bothered me if I was constantly finding things!  The difference in my opinion is that I trust that he's over his past relationships and only wants to be with me.

    Which leads me to part 2 of what I think.  It seems like you feel he still harbors romantic feelings towards this girl.  True?  I think you just need to talk to him about it.  Ask why he keeps so many memories of her.  Losing her, even though they were broken up, was probably really traumatizing and probably a big reason he still keeps so much.  That doesn't mean he's still hung up on her.  Maybe you could ask him to put all these pictures and keepsakes in a box and store them somewhere that you're not constantly being reminded of her.  That way you can both move on without losing the memories of his past.

  • What does he do w/ these pictures?  He happened to, based on your telling of it, go through some pics he has ONE time and you happened to be sitting there.  Is he now going through them daily, spending a ton of time?  Or was it ONE time? 

     And all these pictures - were they ONLY of her/ her and him, or were there other pictures from his past, some that had nothing to do w/ her? 

    I really have never understood this concept of wanting to make someone get rid of pictures. You do realize that you aren't getting rid of the memories, right?  He has stuff in his head that you can't  make him "throw out"?

    As a PP said - people deal w/ their past in different ways.  If it was cathartic for you to get rid of all pics having to do w/ exes, then good for you.  But if that isn't what he wants to do - respect that.

    Now- if he's looking at these pics daily and "reliving the past", I may change my opinion.  But just having them saved somewhere on his PC - I don't see the big deal.

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  • If he insists on bringing them out and hanging them up and refusing to take them down when you ask, then there is a problem.

    I know of a guy who has done exactly this.  He has photos of an ex gf hanging in his home and he refuses to remove them.  His current gf doesn't get it that there is a problem that he insists on these photos being so prominent in his home but that's another story.

    These are mememtoes and keepsakes. If he's got a million photos of her and him tucked away in a box and they stay there, what's the problem? I see none.

    Don't insist he destroy them. That would be way out of line and you'd be in the wrong.
  • I agree with the first poster everyone deals with things differently and in this case it wasn't just a break up it was a loss. Also what I got from you post was that he hadn't been using that laptop and then decided to get it running again and thought he'd go through his old photos. To me it would be irrational of you to assume there wouldn't be pictures in a old drive from there relationship. And if they were HS sweethearts she was probably in his life for quite some time so getting rid of all photos isn't going to be an option for him. My H and his EX wife were together for 14yrs and I would never ask him to get rid of the pictures of her. Do I like them NO but he isn't flunting them in front in me as I get your husband isn't eithier.

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  • I respectfully disagree with the posts above. The fact that your husband holds on to photographs of a particular person with love letters and all leads me to believe that he has some attachment not so much to these items but some fantasy of what he hoped for, or what could had been.  One photograph is enough, if he absolutely must remember what she looked like. Naturally, you think these pictures mean something.  They symbolize that she was an important of his past.

    He's now married and committed to a life with you because he loves and cares for you very much, I assume. That said, you're the woman in his life.  While it is a sensitive subject, you seem to understand this, by your explanation.  Go ahead and ask him to be respectful of you and mindful of your feelings.  You're creating a life together and I'm sure you both have hope and dreams for your life together. Live in the present.  While I don't suggest that you "tell" him what to do, I recommend that you tell him in a loving way how seeing those pictures makes you feel. Let the focus be on you and your interpretation of them. You're not blaming or making accusations.  You're simply expressing a feeling to someone who loves you enough to care how you feel. When you're done talking ask verify that he understands. I don't believe that you're being unreasonable. 
  • lotustone said:
    I respectfully disagree with the posts above. The fact that your husband holds on to photographs of a particular person with love letters and all leads me to believe that he has some attachment not so much to these items but some fantasy of what he hoped for, or what could had been.  One photograph is enough, if he absolutely must remember what she looked like. Naturally, you think these pictures mean something.  They symbolize that she was an important of his past.

    He's now married and committed to a life with you because he loves and cares for you very much, I assume. That said, you're the woman in his life.  While it is a sensitive subject, you seem to understand this, by your explanation.  Go ahead and ask him to be respectful of you and mindful of your feelings.  You're creating a life together and I'm sure you both have hope and dreams for your life together. Live in the present.  While I don't suggest that you "tell" him what to do, I recommend that you tell him in a loving way how seeing those pictures makes you feel. Let the focus be on you and your interpretation of them. You're not blaming or making accusations.  You're simply expressing a feeling to someone who loves you enough to care how you feel. When you're done talking ask verify that he understands. I don't believe that you're being unreasonable. 
    So according to you, because I didn't delete every photo of my ex-husband, I'm holding onto some fantasy of my marriage having worked out?

    Wow. I was pretty sure I'd moved on, since I haven't had any romantic feelings for my ex in years, so it's good that you pointed out to me that I'm hung up on him. What would I do without all you experts! I'm going to go tell my boyfriend right now to break up with me until I learn to let go of the past.
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  • lotustonelotustone member
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    edited September 2013

    Wow, if you're going to choose to use quotes of peoples responses it's important that you learn to read carefully and try not to make such an effort to take things out of context.  As to your last paragraph, are you making a joke? sarcasm?  In any case, it's unnecessary.

    Did you read the part where I explicitly said the pictures "symbolize that she was an important part of his past" ? Guess not. 

    Did you even read MrsBaird2012 original post???? She herself has old photo's! Obviously her problem is not all about photographs, especially because she is okay with him holding on to some of them. By your misdirected and faulty extraction from my whole message, you might as well had said that I am saying anyone with photos hasn't moved on from the past and should go break up with their SO's/spouses. Is that what I said?

    Nowhere in my response did I say that he hasn't moved on. 

    According to me,  "The fact that your husband holds on to photographs of a particular person with love letters and all leads me to believe that he has some attachment not so much to these items but some fantasy of what he hoped for, or what could had been.  "

    The reason MrsBaird2012 posted is likely because she feels there's a reason to be concerned, intuitively.  Everybody's relationship is different. .  My focus actually was on the both of them, not so much on another woman who was unfortunately killed. The fact that he and his friends reminisce over wonderful and intimate moments her H shared with another woman and continue to make this woman a presence in their relationship must be a  little awkward for  MrsBaird2012.  This adds new meaning to the idiom "living with a ghost".

    I don't know anything about your relationship GilliC but yes, if you keep bringing up stuff about how great and important your old flame was to you, then perhaps you should tell your boyfriend to break up with you and do himself a favour. (Forget the pictures)

    Also, here's Webster's definition of "attachment" for your reference - "a feeling that binds one to a person, thing, cause, ideal, or the like; devotion; regard."



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  • GilliCGilliC member
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    edited September 2013

    Sincere apologies for my selective highlighting! I only disagreed with part of your post, so I highlighted the part I was replying to. Since that is apparently confusing, allow me to respond to its entirety:

    "I respectfully disagree with the posts above."
    Since you didn't specify which posts, I assumed you were disagreeing with all of them that expressed the general sentiment that this was no big deal. Including mine.

    "The fact that your husband holds on to photographs of a particular person with love letters and all leads me to believe that he has some attachment not so much to these items but some fantasy of what he hoped for, or what could had been."
    From my personal experience, I keep photos and items like this because I'm attached to the memories. Not to something that could have been, but something that was. And is over.

    I completely understand the term "attachment" and I am absolutely attached to those memories. However, I am not attached to "some fantasy of what I hoped for, or what could have been." I find this sentiment to be ridiculous.

    "One photograph is enough, if he absolutely must remember what she looked like."
    True, but how long were they together? People change over time. And in my case there are dozens of vacations and events that I want to keep photographs of, so even if I culled my photo album to the minimum, I would probably still have more than one photo of XH.

    "Naturally, you think these pictures mean something."
    Probably.

    "They symbolize that she was an important of his past."
    I think we're all on the same page with this one.

    "He's now married and committed to a life with you because he loves and cares for you very much, I assume."
    Yup. No disagreements on this either.

    "That said, you're the woman in his life. While it is a sensitive subject, you seem to understand this, by your explanation.  Go ahead and ask him to be respectful of you and mindful of your feelings.  You're creating a life together and I'm sure you both have hope and dreams for your life together. Live in the present.  While I don't suggest that you "tell" him what to do, I recommend that you tell him in a loving way how seeing those pictures makes you feel. Let the focus be on you and your interpretation of them. You're not blaming or making accusations.  You're simply expressing a feeling to someone who loves you enough to care how you feel. When you're done talking ask verify that he understands. I don't believe that you're being unreasonable."
    Is this the part that you're disagreeing about? I think it's fine to broach the subject, but I still think that we're missing the appropriate context to know whether it's okay to come out of nowhere and be all, "I think we need to talk about the pictures of your ex."


    According to the OP he had some pictures on an "old laptop" that he recently "got up and running," and had some prom pictures in a box. I think a lot of us probably have prom pictures of men we're not married to. For most people, prom pictures are about laughing at outdated fashions rather than swooning over some boy you went to a school dance with in high school. And I have no idea what kind of photos are sitting around on my old hard drive at home, because I can't be bothered to sit and go through them all. If my boyfriend came up to me this evening and said, "When you had that hard drive out last week, I saw that you have pictures of your ex-husband on it. I'm worried that you're holding on to some kind of fantasy about what your relationship could have been," I would honestly look at him like he was crazy cakes.
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  • I'm torn on this. It seems she was a big part of his life, past and even currant friendships. When people die they are sometimes rewrote and memorialize on a different level than what they actually had been in life. I'm not saying your H and her exes are doing this but I've seen it.

    I think your best bet is to have and honest and open convo with your H. Tell him your thoughts and feelings but not what you do or would do with the items. I would ask him why the pictures of prom are in that drawer. I find that to be odd, in a box in his closet not so much.

    I have to ask, with his past and entanglement with this EX of his, why did you marry him? Is all this something new that has come up? Have you asked them about their history, relationship and break up?
  • lotustonelotustone member
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    edited September 2013
    Dear GilliC

    Okay. I think I see your point(?) maybe. I don't know how your boyfriend would phrase his feelings about this but needless to state the obvious, this is not an ideal way.  "When you had that hard drive out last week, I saw that you have pictures of your ex-husband on it. I'm worried that you're holding on to some kind of fantasy about what your relationship could have been,"   

    We're not here trying to teach each other how to speak. Communication isn't a  one shoe fits all technique. 

    I personally would wait for a good time and say some variation of  "I want to be honest with you. Will you please help me understand better.  Briefly listen and then let me know what you think. While we were going through some of your old pictures last week (whenever) I felt somewhat uncomfortable. I felt uncomfortable because the only reason I would hold on to photographs and personal items of someone with whom I was previously intimate and repeatedly bring them up in current conversations is because ...xyz... I understand completely that there are many harmless reasons for doing so.  Still it would help me a lot to clarify that your reasons are different from what I've explained" .

    In my initial response I said no "blaming or making accusations".  If someone comes at you by saying the highlighted  example above it's indirectly saying you did something wrong by opening up the computer and browsing your old files. Secondly, he may just respond defensively, and that won't get MrsBaird2012 any of the clarity she is seeking.
  • Well, they did break up BEFORE she passed away. So I think any lovey-dovey memorabilia should be tossed. It's disrespectful to his current relationship. 
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    (Oh, and for the record @lotustone, yes I was kidding. My boyfriend could care less about pictures of my XH, just like I could care less about the pictures he has of his XW.* In fact, we lie around in bed imagining that each other was an idealized version of our respective exes. <-- Still kidding.)

    * Okay, not entirely true. I will admit that I'm jealous of their wedding cake, because it looked awesome!
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  • Okay, seriously, what kind of idiot goes through cuddly bed pictures of an ex with his wife sitting next to him?!  I'm starting to wonder if he WANTS you to feel bad and insecure about this.
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  • I still probably have hard copies of exes in photo albums somewhere, but that's because they're buried somewhere and I never go through them. I don't have any on the computer. When DH and I got together his computer was full of photos of his ex. All I asked was that he put them on a hard drive and then delete them from the computer, so I didn't have to see them. He and his ex were together for 7 years, so I know he has lots of photos of her at family events and wouldn't waft to delete everything just because she's in it. As long as I don't have them popping up when I'm on our computer, I don't care. Ask your husband to put them somewhere where you don't have to see them. He shouldn't have to delete them all if he doesn't want to, but he could be more sensitive and make sure you don't have to see them. Would that be a good compromise?
  • MLE2010 said:
    I'm torn on this. It seems she was a big part of his life, past and even currant friendships. When people die they are sometimes rewrote and memorialize on a different level than what they actually had been in life. I'm not saying your H and her exes are doing this but I've seen it. I think your best bet is to have and honest and open convo with your H. Tell him your thoughts and feelings but not what you do or would do with the items. I would ask him why the pictures of prom are in that drawer. I find that to be odd, in a box in his closet not so much. I have to ask, with his past and entanglement with this EX of his, why did you marry him? Is all this something new that has come up? Have you asked them about their history, relationship and break up?
    THIS!  I'm very torn too.  I mean she's not alive, so she isn't a real threat to you.  Also, to play devils advocate, do you think he kept the prom pictures because they were from prom, not from her?  I still have my prom picture just because it was prom not because I the guy I went with.  However, I do see why you may be bothered by this.  I mean you, as his wife, want to feel like you are number 1 not 2nd to best to a deceased ex girl friend, which is prob how the pictures make you feel.  Maybe just talk to him in the nicest most understand way possible?
  • Sorry its taken me so long to respond I managed to push the situation out of my mind and forgot until I went to put something in the drawer and seen that box. I am going to talk to him at some point. I just hope he can understand.

    Thanks for the advice! Oh and yes for the first few months it was like living with a ghost. Far too often she was what my H and his friends/brothers talked about. In that time I was able to figure out that she was a psychotic nympho whom cheated on my H with her ex H going as far as "seeing" them both in one day. I understand he wanted to date her for a good number of years, but they were together maybe 8 months before she left him. Either way she is gone.

    Again thank you for the advice and your time.
  • Why in the hell were they talking about her so much, and in front of you?

    IDK.  This, combined with him looking at snuggly bed pictures of her in front of you, this is too much over the top baggage.
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  • Sorry its taken me so long to respond I managed to push the situation out of my mind and forgot until I went to put something in the drawer and seen that box. I am going to talk to him at some point. I just hope he can understand. Thanks for the advice! Oh and yes for the first few months it was like living with a ghost. Far too often she was what my H and his friends/brothers talked about. In that time I was able to figure out that she was a psychotic nympho whom cheated on my H with her ex H going as far as "seeing" them both in one day. I understand he wanted to date her for a good number of years, but they were together maybe 8 months before she left him. Either way she is gone. Again thank you for the advice and your time.

    It sounds like it's more than just photos bugging you then. It's very rude for his friends to be talking about her (and her sex life) with your DH and you. I sure hope they've stopped doing that. There's no way you need that much detail about your DH's past and sex with other people. I don't blame you for being cheesed about that. I hope you do talk to him, and that he can put his memories a little further away, where you don't have to see and hear about them. Good luck.
  • I get that it's hard. But chances are when he looks at the pictures he remembers the fun they had together, the people she brought into his life that are still there and thankful for all of that. This may sound crazy, but why make a small photo album for him as a keep sake so he can delete those pictures off the computer. This way when he is having a moment where he wants to remember some old times, he can just pull that out for a few moments. He is probably less likely to do that then to keep looking at them whenever he opens the computer.

    At the very least, if you notice him looking at the photos alot, just say, I notice you've been looking at her pictures a lot lately, are you ok?

  • How long were they together and how serious was the relationship? Losing somebody that you are close to or were close to at one point in time is very hard and I don't blame him for looking at pictures or talking about her. You have to be ok with the fact that he did have a life and memories before you came into the picture. Also remember that she is no longer here and there is no competition, she can't take him from you. I do think if she was here it would be a bit concerning, but you have trust that he loves you and only has eyes for you.
  • If you're going to talk to him about it, be gentle with it. It could come off to him as you being insensitive.
  • Yes.  Heaven forbid you seem insensitive to HIS feelings, since he is being so sensitive to yours and all.
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  • I just don't understand why speaking with him about this making you uncomfortable is an issue.  Exes are exes for a reason, regardless of the type of loss.  I can't imagine losing someone in this way, but I also can't see myself paying homage to them by keeping their memories around me daily.  Talking to him about this may not be the most pleasant conversation, but its a conversation that needs to happen.  Good luck!
  •    DH used to have some sort of weakness for his ex.DH had tears  in his eyes when he seen her wedding picture at a mutual friends home. DH and ex had a classic miscommunication and broke up.
       The ex was determined to get get out of her parents house asap and become a soccer mom.
       She met and married another guy who was looking for a wife asap to keep house and help with the family business in less than seven months.
      DH and her found out that each other had misunderstood each other before she married but she had nice ring and a fantastic house waiting for her. She married the new guy anyways. "A bird in hand is worth two in the bush".
       It was a tender spot for DH, kind of like a deep thorn or sliver that usually did not hurt unless poked the wrong way.
        DH ran across her a few years later and she was crammed into an apartment above the store. While we had worked our way up from living in the basement of our own house. To having a pool and a nanny. DH actually did  his best to not rub it in and was a perfect gentleman but she sniffled and stamped her foot. Something changed and he seen her differently after that and he was less bothered.
       DH and eldest son ran across her again about three years ago.ex looked our son from head to toe and appeared for 2 seconds that she wanted to bed our teen boy. The ex and her husband are loaded with $$$ again. We are doing good too. DH and ex appeared all friendly but later he seemed as relieved as a pricked dog that had the last porcupine quill pulled.  DH appears to miss the ex now about as much as he misses a kick to the groin. 
       Don't get me wrong the ex is a hard working, nice polite, smart decent church going women with a son starting out as a missionary.
      Just wish he had got it out of his system years ago.
      Wish you well, men can be such dumb *sses.
  • seedabeeseedabee member
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    edited November 2013
    My DH has dozens of pics with him and multiple exes. He has posted his old prom pics to facebook. Just this weekend, he posted about 50 pictures of his old job and those pics included shots of him with the co-workers he dated while working there. He actually asked me if one was inappropriate and I said "it's fine but that' is an awful picture of her and I would kill you if you posted an awful pic of me to facebook." It doesn't bother me because there are hundreds of pics of us online, what does a few pics of his ex mean? Nothing.

    The past is the past and we are together now. But those relationships made him who he is just like mine made me who I am. If I were the type to take pics of myself prior to 2004, I would have no issue posting pics of myself with exes. What I am saying is that you can't change or compete with the past so why let it bother you. I don't think it is fair to expect someone to get rid of pics from their past. It happened.

    Btw, I don't have pics of me and my exes cause I didn't take any but I do have all the letters and romantic cards they wrote me. They were an important part of my life and it would be very unfair for my husband to expect me to get rid of them. The most I would say is acceptable is ask that they not be where you can view them if it bothers you that much to see them.

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