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I ugly cried this morning (long)

I'm still so upset but I am able to sit at work and pretend I'm okay for now.
I decided today that I need to get started on researching RE's in the area and getting a S/A done for DH. I was a girl on a mission. My SIL recommended the RE she saw when she was having TTTC(it took her 2 years). DH called me into the bedroom this AM so I told him I needed to ask him a serious question, I said I wanted to make an appt with a specialist and needed to know if he preferred someone by our house or someone by our offices. His response... nothing for a solid 45 seconds and then he goes "Well Good morning to you too." I literally started silently crying and walked out the room. I then sat on the couch for 5 minutes crying alone. When I finally stopped crying I heard him getting dressed and he came into the living room and pretended like I never asked a question. I grabbed my stuff and left the house, got in the car, called my sister and cried for 35 minutes until I got to my office. Luckily, I had someone to talk to but I was soooo upset, I still am. Just writing this makes me start to tear up.
I called my OBGYN and they said DH has to call his insurance carrier to make sure they will accept a script written by my GYNO. So I texted DH that this is something he has to take care of since he is home alone right now. He just responded saying he wants to wait until AF comes and then call with me. I understand he is nervous, I really really do, but I just can't handle the stress of TTC worries on my own. My temps are not anymore elevated then they usually are and I haven't seen any increase in temps over the past 3 days.
We are both aware the problem COULD be him, but I don't think he realizes that I need to rule him out before anyone will test me further. It's his whole male ego that is getting in the way and it's started to really piss me off. I'm not going to last much longer if he doesn't start putting his best foot forward with testing.

It really felt good to cry it out but I really wish it was with DH and not my sister. This group is like therapy to me so thank you for reading this. Today is just not a good day.

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  • I am so sorry you are going through this :-(  Boys can be so stubborn sometimes!  Have you sat down and explained to him that this is the first step that needs to happen before more testing can be done?  It took my DH forever to finally get his S/A done.  I tried giving him time to do it and finally just said you have to go and he finally did.  I wish I could offer more advice :-(
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  • @sparklingdiamond -  we did have a long conversation a couple months ago about me getting my hormone testing done and how they suggested he get checked. He said he wanted to wait until a year. So I respected that, our year mark is next cycle so that is why I am trying to get things moving. I can't stand his ego...

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  • I am so sorry you are dealing with this. It can be really hard for men to open up and the whole S/A process can be intimidating and overwhelming for them. I am sending you lots of ((hugs))!

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  • I'm so sorry you are going through this. I really hope your husband comes around and steps up to get the ball rolling. 
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  • @sparklingdiamond -  we did have a long conversation a couple months ago about me getting my hormone testing done and how they suggested he get checked. He said he wanted to wait until a year. So I respected that, our year mark is next cycle so that is why I am trying to get things moving. I can't stand his ego...
    Can you try reminding him that the year mark is coming up and that he said he would get it done?  I don't know if that would help or not.
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  • Bruins said it best.

    My DH took a very long time getting his SA done as well. My doc wrote the Rx for it back at the end of June a week before we did my HSG. He didn't complete the SA until September.

    It was frustrating for me to wait and wait and wait. But it's not a fun experience for them and it's probably terrifying for them to even think they might have a problem preventing you from having babies. I don't think I would ever bring that up to DH first thing in the morning; it's something he really needed to wrap his head around and warm up to thinking about.

    I get that you're upset that he doesn't seem to be taking this as seriously as you and he's not leaping at the opportunity to do his testing. But honestly, I still haven't started contacting REs because I'm terrified of getting further testing done too. And my DH isn't at the point he thinks seeing a urologist for more info would be helpful. So I need to be patient and wait until we're both feeling better about things and move forward.

    Give him some slack. I'm sorry it was a rough morning, but a lot of guys tend to shut down emotionally when it comes to these things and they don't communicate. Yours is not the exception; he's the rule (as far as my experience goes).
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  • To be honest, my H wouldn't be thrilled if I threw testing stuff at him first thing in the morning, like, before any other conversation.
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    I would cut him a little bit of slack.  Especially if you both know that it's possible there's something wrong on his end.

    If he's requesting to wait till AF, then wait till AF.  At least he's giving you a timeline as to when he will be prepared to do it.

    Sorry you're having to go through this though. It's a discussion that isn't easy for either party involved.

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  • I'm sorry you're going through this and that talking to DH made you so upset. I definitely agree with PPs though, that he may be just as scared and upset as you, and he's not being so unreasonable to want you to handle the conversation delicately and give him some time. I hope you guys can work it out and get things moving in a way you're both comfortable with.

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  • Ditto what Bruins said.  Sorry you're going through this. ((hugs))
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  • I am sorry that's the way your day started off. It's so hard to control the emotions. But I sympathize with your DH too. It would not be something I would wNt to unexpectedly discuss first thing in the morning either.

    FWIW, I would make the appt with the RE first before sending DH for a SA from your gyno for 2 reasons. (1) he might have to repeat it if your RE prefers one jab or standard and (2) it will give him more time to get used to the idea. I had almost all my testing done before DH did his SA. No RE will proceed with only 1 set of test results anyway so it is not like you wl be losing time.

    Good luck - hopefully you guys can have a long discussion about it in the coming days.
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  • I tried to remind DH that it honestly could be either one of us and that I truly didn't think it was him, but I just needed him to do that one thing so I could move on with MY testing. I tried to make it seem like no big deal and that it was just an annoying little task he had to do for MY sake. So, whether right or wrong (bc I truly didn't think he had a problem), it made him feel like it was no big deal and that I wasn't questioning his manhood. (I also promised sexy pics of myself for him to use/not use at his discression. (Spelling?)

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  • Thanks ladies! All of your gave me some great advice and I really appreciate it. I can see that maybe I am not respecting his feelings as much as I thought I was.

    I know I can always turn to you ladies to set me straight!

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  • This is not directed at anyone, including you @sewilson33, but I have to say it.  I just don't understand cutting them slack or letting them take time to give their sample.  They're adults.  My H was into the RE office within the same week with his sample and with all subsequent samples.  I was into the RE office every single morning to give blood and have strangers reaching around in my lady bits.  He can certainly jack-off in a cup. Maybe this makes me sound heartless, but it's how I feel.

    A diagnosis is different.  I'm married to a strong silent type and I had to basically force him to tell me how he was feeling when we got his results. And, then he needed to go for some beers.  That was a totally different situation and certainly not one where I would tell anyone to "man-up". 
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  • nfp147 said:

    This is not directed at anyone, including you @sewilson33, but I have to say it.  I just don't understand cutting them slack or letting them take time to give their sample.  They're adults.  My H was into the RE office within the same week with his sample and with all subsequent samples.  I was into the RE office every single morning to give blood and have strangers reaching around in my lady bits.  He can certainly jack-off in a cup. Maybe this makes me sound heartless, but it's how I feel.


    A diagnosis is different.  I'm married to a strong silent type and I had to basically force him to tell me how he was feeling when we got his results. And, then he needed to go for some beers.  That was a totally different situation and certainly not one where I would tell anyone to "man-up". 
    I agree with you to a point. I agree that some DHs are slow to do things and I do feel that their testing is way easier than ours, but I know it took me some time to want to call and get testing done, so I can understand hesitating in that respect.
  • I think it's a little bit less about cutting him some slack (which I agree with) but more about letting him get there on his own.

    This may not be a good comparison, but it's all I've got, and it makes sense in my head:

     I have felt frustrated at times that H didn't seem as concerned as I was, or didn't react as strongly to each BFN/AF as I did.  Getting to the point where we were ready to move forward with an RE, and get him to do a S/A sort of reminded me of before we were engaged.  It drove me crazy that he wasn't proposing, or would say he wasn't ready to do so. He would tell me he wanted to marry me someday, but wouldn't just do it.  But I knew the last thing I wanted was for him to propose because he felt pressured into doing so.  I needed to let him get to where he needed to be, where he wanted to do it. 

    So yeah, while I have been aware that we needed to move forward for a while, he wasn't convinced/ready/whatever. Even when he said he was 'ready', I strongly felt like pressuring him to get tested wasn't the way to go about this  (just like when I knew we were going to get married, and it took him a while to get there). And sure enough, now I can tell this is something we're going though together, intead of something I'm going through, while wondering why he's not getting it.

     

    In other words, my novel is trying to say that maybe his reaction is a sign that he may not be fully ready to take these steps, and I think the best thing to do at this point is to really sit and talk with him about where you are, and what you are both ready for. 

    (I'm seriously blabbymouth today.)

     

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  • This is not directed at anyone, including you @sewilson33, but I have to say it.  I just don't understand cutting them slack or letting them take time to give their sample.  They're adults.  My H was into the RE office within the same week with his sample and with all subsequent samples.  I was into the RE office every single morning to give blood and have strangers reaching around in my lady bits.  He can certainly jack-off in a cup. Maybe this makes me sound heartless, but it's how I feel.

    A diagnosis is different.  I'm married to a strong silent type and I had to basically force him to tell me how he was feeling when we got his results. And, then he needed to go for some beers.  That was a totally different situation and certainly not one where I would tell anyone to "man-up". 
    I agree with you to a point. I agree that some DHs are slow to do things and I do feel that their testing is way easier than ours, but I know it took me some time to want to call and get testing done, so I can understand hesitating in that respect.
    Maybe it was easier for us because we're old buggers and didn't have time to wait around :)
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  • I am so sorry you are going thru this. Men are different with things sometimes, especially when it may be something they are unable to fix.  Perhaps he is worried that he may be the problem and he doesn't want to be.  I don't know, I just know that sometimes, you will want to wait hoping to not hear what you are worried for.  I'm sure he thinks about these things a lot and has his own thoughts about it, just as a man, they don't always talk about it.  Well I am hoping for the best for you and we are all here  for you!!! ;)  xoxo 

     

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  • nfp147 said:



    nfp147 said:

    This is not directed at anyone, including you @sewilson33, but I have to say it.  I just don't understand cutting them slack or letting them take time to give their sample.  They're adults.  My H was into the RE office within the same week with his sample and with all subsequent samples.  I was into the RE office every single morning to give blood and have strangers reaching around in my lady bits.  He can certainly jack-off in a cup. Maybe this makes me sound heartless, but it's how I feel.


    A diagnosis is different.  I'm married to a strong silent type and I had to basically force him to tell me how he was feeling when we got his results. And, then he needed to go for some beers.  That was a totally different situation and certainly not one where I would tell anyone to "man-up". 
    I agree with you to a point. I agree that some DHs are slow to do things and I do feel that their testing is way easier than ours, but I know it took me some time to want to call and get testing done, so I can understand hesitating in that respect.

    Maybe it was easier for us because we're old buggers and didn't have time
    to wait around :)

    You are really old.... (Eye roll and winky face!)

    Alan was actually very good about just going and getting it done. He didn't let me know until after the test how terrified he was about having an issue because of all of his work around radar and his hernia from when he was younger. He was so focused on trying to be the strong one, because we both knew that I had issues that he had never told me about his feelings until he was ready. I think that sometimes guys are so focused on being strong that it is easy for us to forget that this is something they want and they struggle with it, too.

  • I definitely think M is scared and doesn't want to tell me how scared he is. He does shut down whenever I bring up fertility issues so it makes it much harder to talk to him about anything regarding TTC besides "yes I got a +opk, my temp spiked or AF is due any day." The one time I did get him to discuss it further we spoke about it for a half hour and then he straight out said "okay I'm done talking about it." So, I have only brought up testing once since that day (besides today obviously).
    I understand the fear because I felt the same way when I got my CD3 bloodwork. I might do what @pinkinprovence said and make the appt with the RE if AF comes and then have him do a S/A thru though RE's office just in case.

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  • amccul20amccul20 mod
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    my husband struggled with the idea of testing too and I found the best way to handle his apprehension about all of it was to say something and then let him process it and come back to me when he was ready.  he did get it done pretty quickly once I addressed it but I really think making sure you know how to handle your DH's emotions are key to success.

    in general when dealing with IF related things if I pushed too much or got upset it scared/bothered him and he would close up.

    Of course there are times when you need to be able to let it all go in front of your spouse but sometimes I think that it just scares them more and creates more tension.

    once the inital testing was done with my DH it was much easier to get him to go along with things, even though the problem was with him and it was scary.

    good luck! just give him a little bit more time to process, everyone has different thresholds for this sort of thing.

  • I don't have anything to add, the ladies covered it pretty well, but I did want to say I'm sorry you had a rough morning, and I'm sorry you even have to have this discussion with your H. I truly hope this is your cycle so you can avoid the testing route, but if it's not I hope you get answers soon. Always thinking of you girl! ((Hugs))

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  • Is your H a morning person? If I got hot with a serious topic like that right as soon as I woke up, I'd likely have the same reaction.
    I'd send him a note that you'd like to talk about testing, etc. and set up a time where he's prepared for the discussion.

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  • I'm sorry you're going through this. The other ladies seem very wise.
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  • So sorry you're going through this. I'm sure he'll come around. The other girls had some really great advice (better than anything I'd think of.) Good Luck.


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  • I'm really sorry your day started this way. That part sucks for sure and I can certainly understand why you are upset about it. ((hugs)) 

    I think it can take men awhile to come around to the idea that there might be a problem. You should probably have another discussion. (planned, because I am not a morning person and that wouldn't have worked for me. I also think,  like @dangermuffin23 said, that sometimes hearing it directly from the RE makes a difference. Maybe you could talk about doing the RE consult and go from there. He may accept it better if the RE tells him to do it. 
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  • I'm sorry your day started out like this. An RE typically will want a full workup done on both partners, so I don't think there is any rush in having DH do a SA. My DH had to do two. 

    I would give him a few days before starting the conversation again. I'd avoid a morning conversation. He's probably very nervous that the problem does lie with him. Reassure him that you know it's difficult for him, too. I hope that the SA is a relatively easy process for him.

    As for the insurance bit, can you call and ask?
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