Catching Fire Movie. OMFG. (SP)

Re: Catching Fire Movie. OMFG. (SP)

• ThisModernLove member

  

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  EliStar said:

  GilliC said:

  I thought of another difference from the book that I actually like better in the film:

  
  

  In the book, the twists for the Quarter Quells were already set up at the time of the charter, so Pres. Snow just opens the envelope and reads that the tributes will be reaped from the victors. That always struck me as a Dickens-like outlandish coincidence.

  
  

  In the film, they imply that Snow (and Heavensbee) devised it as a reaction to the victors having too much power (and for Heavensbee, a way to build even more support for a Katniss-based revolution).

  
  

  I thought this was a much more elegant plot development compared to the book's "Hey! Twist of fate! By terrible odds (which are never in your favor), you're going right back in! (What do you expect from a sequel?!)"

  The way they did it in the movie is the way I interpreted it in the books. I think it was implied that no one in their right mind would believe that this was just an "outlandish coincidence". Snow is not above using any tools necessary to keep the districts in line, including faking the quarter quell. 

  
  

  
  

  
  
  

   

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• GilliC member

  

  November 2013

  EliStar said:

  GilliC said:

  I thought of another difference from the book that I actually like better in the film:

  
  

  In the book, the twists for the Quarter Quells were already set up at the time of the charter, so Pres. Snow just opens the envelope and reads that the tributes will be reaped from the victors. That always struck me as a Dickens-like outlandish coincidence.

  
  

  In the film, they imply that Snow (and Heavensbee) devised it as a reaction to the victors having too much power (and for Heavensbee, a way to build even more support for a Katniss-based revolution).

  
  

  I thought this was a much more elegant plot development compared to the book's "Hey! Twist of fate! By terrible odds (which are never in your favor), you're going right back in! (What do you expect from a sequel?!)"

  The way they did it in the movie is the way I interpreted it in the books. I think it was implied that no one in their right mind would believe that this was just an "outlandish coincidence". Snow is not above using any tools necessary to keep the districts in line, including faking the quarter quell. 

  But in the book there was a box with all the envelopes and Katniss makes a comment about ow they're set for centuries of Hunger Games. Of course Snow could have swapped the envelopes, but then why bother even writing in the pretense of it having already been decided? Especially if you don't make it clear that he cheated nod swapped them out?

  
  

  ...or maybe I'm just slow and am the only person in the old who read that at face value!

  

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• Young_Love member

  

  November 2013

  GilliC said: EliStar said: GilliC said: I thought of another difference from the book that I actually like better in the film:
  In the book, the twists for the Quarter Quells were already set up at the time of the charter, so Pres. Snow just opens the envelope and reads that the tributes will be reaped from the victors. That always struck me as a Dickens-like outlandish coincidence.
  In the film, they imply that Snow (and Heavensbee) devised it as a reaction to the victors having too much power (and for Heavensbee, a way to build even more support for a Katniss-based revolution).
  I thought this was a much more elegant plot development compared to the book's "Hey! Twist of fate! By terrible odds (which are never in your favor), you're going right back in! (What do you expect from a sequel?!)" The way they did it in the movie is the way I interpreted it in the books. I think it was implied that no one in their right mind would believe that this was just an "outlandish coincidence". Snow is not above using any tools necessary to keep the districts in line, including faking the quarter quell.  But in the book there was a box with all the envelopes and Katniss makes a comment about ow they're set for centuries of Hunger Games. Of course Snow could have swapped the envelopes, but then why bother even writing in the pretense of it having already been decided? Especially if you don't make it clear that he cheated nod swapped them out?
  ...or maybe I'm just slow and am the only person in the old who read that at face value! I read it as ambiguous. It sure was a coincidence that that's what the envelope just HAPPENED to have in it! Did Snow fake it? Or was that really what it said? Who knows!

  
  

  I thought it was interesting they made it so clear in the movie...but I think it really added to the audience being sure that Heavensbee was on the side of the Capitol, and made the ending more of a shock. (And then made all the pieces click into place.)

  
  

  Which...OMG I totally forgot that Heavensbee was part of the plan! I guess that's the good thing about not having read this book since it's freaking release day. SO many things (like this) I had forgotten about and were a total surprise. It was pretty fun.

    
  

  

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  November 2013

  EliStar said:

  GilliC said:

  I thought of another difference from the book that I actually like better in the film:

  
  

  In the book, the twists for the Quarter Quells were already set up at the time of the charter, so Pres. Snow just opens the envelope and reads that the tributes will be reaped from the victors. That always struck me as a Dickens-like outlandish coincidence.

  
  

  In the film, they imply that Snow (and Heavensbee) devised it as a reaction to the victors having too much power (and for Heavensbee, a way to build even more support for a Katniss-based revolution).

  
  

  I thought this was a much more elegant plot development compared to the book's "Hey! Twist of fate! By terrible odds (which are never in your favor), you're going right back in! (What do you expect from a sequel?!)"

  The way they did it in the movie is the way I interpreted it in the books. I think it was implied that no one in their right mind would believe that this was just an "outlandish coincidence". Snow is not above using any tools necessary to keep the districts in line, including faking the quarter quell. 

  
  I'm on this couch as well. I didn't mind the small change in the movie because it did set up that moment at the end but it was how I read between the lines in the book too.

  

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  November 2013

  GilliC said:

  EliStar said:

  GilliC said:

  I thought of another difference from the book that I actually like better in the film:

  
  

  In the book, the twists for the Quarter Quells were already set up at the time of the charter, so Pres. Snow just opens the envelope and reads that the tributes will be reaped from the victors. That always struck me as a Dickens-like outlandish coincidence.

  
  

  In the film, they imply that Snow (and Heavensbee) devised it as a reaction to the victors having too much power (and for Heavensbee, a way to build even more support for a Katniss-based revolution).

  
  

  I thought this was a much more elegant plot development compared to the book's "Hey! Twist of fate! By terrible odds (which are never in your favor), you're going right back in! (What do you expect from a sequel?!)"

  The way they did it in the movie is the way I interpreted it in the books. I think it was implied that no one in their right mind would believe that this was just an "outlandish coincidence". Snow is not above using any tools necessary to keep the districts in line, including faking the quarter quell. 

  But in the book there was a box with all the envelopes and Katniss makes a comment about ow they're set for centuries of Hunger Games. Of course Snow could have swapped the envelopes, but then why bother even writing in the pretense of it having already been decided? Especially if you don't make it clear that he cheated nod swapped them out?

  
  

  ...or maybe I'm just slow and am the only person in the old who read that at face value!

  Because then Snow would get the blame for killing off the beloved victors. It would be an obvious ploy to "quell" the rebellion among the districts and it would make Katniss a martyr. This way it is the founders who are responsible for their deaths. 

  
  

   

            

  
  

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  November 2013 edited November 2013

  EliStar said:

  GilliC said:

  EliStar said:

  GilliC said:

  I thought of another difference from the book that I actually like better in the film:

  
  

  In the book, the twists for the Quarter Quells were already set up at the time of the charter, so Pres. Snow just opens the envelope and reads that the tributes will be reaped from the victors. That always struck me as a Dickens-like outlandish coincidence.

  
  

  In the film, they imply that Snow (and Heavensbee) devised it as a reaction to the victors having too much power (and for Heavensbee, a way to build even more support for a Katniss-based revolution).

  
  

  I thought this was a much more elegant plot development compared to the book's "Hey! Twist of fate! By terrible odds (which are never in your favor), you're going right back in! (What do you expect from a sequel?!)"

  The way they did it in the movie is the way I interpreted it in the books. I think it was implied that no one in their right mind would believe that this was just an "outlandish coincidence". Snow is not above using any tools necessary to keep the districts in line, including faking the quarter quell. 

  But in the book there was a box with all the envelopes and Katniss makes a comment about ow they're set for centuries of Hunger Games. Of course Snow could have swapped the envelopes, but then why bother even writing in the pretense of it having already been decided? Especially if you don't make it clear that he cheated nod swapped them out?

  
  

  ...or maybe I'm just slow and am the only person in the old who read that at face value!

  Because then Snow would get the blame for killing off the beloved victors. It would be an obvious ploy to "quell" the rebellion among the districts and it would make Katniss a martyr. This way it is the founders who are responsible for their deaths. 

  No, I meant make it more obvious to the reader!   The dumb readers like me!  Who get confused when the author makes a point of talking about how the Quarter Quells were defined at the very beginning of the games.

  

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  November 2013

  GilliC said:

  EliStar said:

  GilliC said:

  EliStar said:

  GilliC said:

  I thought of another difference from the book that I actually like better in the film:

  
  

  In the book, the twists for the Quarter Quells were already set up at the time of the charter, so Pres. Snow just opens the envelope and reads that the tributes will be reaped from the victors. That always struck me as a Dickens-like outlandish coincidence.

  
  

  In the film, they imply that Snow (and Heavensbee) devised it as a reaction to the victors having too much power (and for Heavensbee, a way to build even more support for a Katniss-based revolution).

  
  

  I thought this was a much more elegant plot development compared to the book's "Hey! Twist of fate! By terrible odds (which are never in your favor), you're going right back in! (What do you expect from a sequel?!)"

  The way they did it in the movie is the way I interpreted it in the books. I think it was implied that no one in their right mind would believe that this was just an "outlandish coincidence". Snow is not above using any tools necessary to keep the districts in line, including faking the quarter quell. 

  But in the book there was a box with all the envelopes and Katniss makes a comment about ow they're set for centuries of Hunger Games. Of course Snow could have swapped the envelopes, but then why bother even writing in the pretense of it having already been decided? Especially if you don't make it clear that he cheated nod swapped them out?

  
  

  ...or maybe I'm just slow and am the only person in the old who read that at face value!

  Because then Snow would get the blame for killing off the beloved victors. It would be an obvious ploy to "quell" the rebellion among the districts and it would make Katniss a martyr. This way it is the founders who are responsible for their deaths. 

  No, I meant make it more obvious to the reader!   The dumb readers like me!  Who get confused when the author makes a point of talking about how the Quarter Quells were defined at the very beginning of the games.

  OH. Sorry! I think this is pretty easy to miss since it's never said outright. My opinion is that Collins made a big deal about the Quarter Quells being pre-written so that the readers wouldn't see the big twist coming in Catching Fire. 

  
  

   

            

  
  

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• Doxies member

  

  November 2013

  SRodi811 said:

  I'm wanting to go see it again on Wednesday, because I LOVED it that much, but I'm debating whether I should spend the extra money to see it in IMAX... any one have an opinion?
  

  I saw it both ways and didn't feel like IMAX added much to it.  I think it opened up the arena scenes a little better, but I didn't feel like I needed to run out and tell everyone to see it in IMAX.

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• Menrandes member

  

  November 2013

  I saw it on Wednesday night.  In general, I loved it and thought it stayed pretty true to the book.
  Though in the beginning I was pretty doubtful when I saw how much make up Katniss was wearing.
  I don't think she'd wear it to go hunting.
  Maybe it will be less obvious on a smaller screen.
  

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  November 2013

  I saw it for a second time on Wednesday, and loved it just as much as the first time, if not more! 
  

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• RhymeReason member

  

  December 2013

  I just saw the movie tonight and having not read the book (nor am I going to), I found the movie that much more exciting. It made the heart pounding moments so much more exciting since I never knew what was coming next. . Also, it was cool to see the girl from Stepmom all grown up and I found it a little funny that Mags was also Magda in Sex and the City. 

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