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My husband and I come from to completely different family types. We have been married four years but are only 23 and 25. We got married very young -). We are away for school in our last year of college. We live 2,000 miles away from both sides of our family. I would like some honest thoughts on what is okay to happen when in-laws come to visit. Understand, we are full-time college students. I work-full time and go to school full-time. My husband works part-time and goes to school 18 credit hours a semester. Plus, we have a social life and activities that we are involved with at our university. We value health and wellness so all our meals are cooked from whole foods and we do no processed foods. Ever. This means that we have to actually use our stove to cook in between work, classes, internships ect.
Enter my family. We are the traditional all American family that is highly driven to excel. My family approaches life from a logical and planned perspective. They never come to visit and expect to stay at our house more then one night. If they are coming to visit they get a hotel and pay to take us out to eat. We are never expected to plan or entertain at our home. My grandparents are the same way.. they never want to be 'burden' on us emotionally during their visit. If I offer, they will come over but it is only if I offer. If they do come for dinner, they help cook and clean up the meal. They also only stay for a few hours and during which time they clean my house and offer to do any house projects that are neglected . When they come to visit it is planned into their vacation. They never come to visit just to sit at our house for a week.. they come with plans to entertain themselves and we are always welcome to join. They understand that at this point we can't drop everything for them.
My husband's family is extremely easy going and relaxed. The believe any
type of planning is control. My mother-in-law and father-in-law
underwent an divorce due to my mother-in-laws affair with an older man.
(He has adult children that are older then her) The family is
dysfunctional on many levels. My father-in-law and mother-in-law remain
close, can we say awkward? My mother-in-law can pressure my
father-in-law into anything and is in complete control of every member
of the family BUT my husband and I. She is extremely manipulative and
told her younger children that 'it was God's Will she have an affair'.
The affair and divorce was very recent (last three years) and we have a strained relationship with his mother. When his family comes to visit they expect to come stay at our home. This is a complete shock to my system. They are coming to our area, not to see us, but to have a vacation. We happen to live in a vacation zone and my mother-in-law is always trying to stay with us for free. I shut down emotionally. My mother-in-law is a pill to deal with and she brings her two teenage sons (plus friends) and young daughter as well. We have a two bedroom duplex that isn't made to house a family for a week. I always say no and tell her to find a hotel for a night by our place. This always brings a fight that is extremely stressful for my husband to deal with. My husband's brothers have come to stay with us for a week that turned into a month one time. They grew up extremely wealthy and spoiled. They don't clean up after themselves and have no concept of what working takes. Granted they are teenagers! however, they don't understand that after a long day of work and school all we want to do is fall into bed. After three years, I have finally gotten my mother-in-law to understand that she must ask before she comes down and she must give notice of her plans. She use to give us a week or two notice and expect to stay with us.
My problem: My husband and I are going on an overseas trip over spring break to Asia. It will be 30 hours flying time there and back. We will be VERY TRIED from the trip. We spent a month in Israel this summer and were both so Jet lagged when we got back we were out for a week. I go back to work the next day we are back and return to classes. I have very hard course load this spring and have to take an extra class. My in-laws know all of this by the way. My mother-in-law wants to have my two teenage sons stay at our place five days after we get back into the country. She and her daughter will go stay at another family members home an hour and half away. My in-laws are saying that the boys will be 'no trouble' and that it is just a place to sleep.. they will drive their own car down.. they will go buy food and cook for themselves. They are completely assuming that this is 100 percent okay, knowing that we are just getting in the country and all that we have going on. Given my background, my family will not even stay with me, it is baffling to my mind. I don't even feel they should be asking to stay with us. If I want you to stay with me, I will offer to have you come visit. If I don't ask you to come visit, I don't want you to come stay at my home. Period.
My husband says this is the way his family (grandparents in all) work. They all have an open door with each other. You can come and stay anytime you please.. not matter the situation.What does your family do?
Re: Crazy In-laws
Chronically hilarious - you'll split your stitches!
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Yeah, there is a LOT of middle ground here. A LOT. Stop comparing the families, especially because I do side-eye YOUR family too. They are SOOOOO desperate to not be a burden, at all, that you can't even cook them a meal? And they do your house projects for you? That's extreme too.
And yeah- you sound uptight too. I've NEVER heard of people needing an entire week to get over jet lag. Oy.
This is your DHs family. Talk to your DH and figure out what the two of you are comfortable with. His family does take advantage - so deal w/ someo f those details. His brothers stay? PUT them to work. Don't expect them to offer- they won't. So TELL Them what they need to do.
They stay and don't have plans? O.k - fine. YOU and DH can still go out and do what you want to do. You dont' have to sit around waiting on them.
There is middle ground. But I also think that you need to realize that what your family does isn't normal either.
~Benjamin Franklin
DS dx with celiac disease 5/28/10
I also think after traveling a long distance, the last thing I would want is to have family come stay with me a week later - especially if they are the type of people who expect to be entertained while they are visiting and are generally a pain in the ass. Any other time, fine - but after a long trip, can you guys honestly say you would want to be hosting visitors?
I do agree that OP does need to lighten up a bit and not compare her family vs his though. But, I also think that there needs to be boundaries because it seems to me like her H's family takes advantage when they come and also overstay their welcome like it is expected, and are rude about it on top of it, so that's not very fair either. In this case, both she and her H need to come to some agreement when it comes to visitors and if it is too much, then they should just tell those visitors that no, it's not a good time for them to come and stay.
Fair enough on the jetlag. And don't get me wrong- I wouldn't want to host family right after a big trip too. It's just all her excuses piling up... it starts to get a little eye-rolley. His family is WRONG!!!! Mine is RIGHT!!!
There DO have to be boundaries - and her DH needs to help her. His brothers come? Fine, but HE has to help make them help - i.e. cleaning up after themselves, at a minimum. Whoever is there and want to do nothing all day? HEr DH needs to support HER in that "Hey- we have plans. See you later." instead of sitting around.
His family is used to staying with family - that I can respect. And I think this is what she has to start working on. But the rudeness/ laziness? Her DH needs to start working on that aspect of it.
~Benjamin Franklin
DS dx with celiac disease 5/28/10
YUP! I had this own experience myself a few years back. DH is mostly on the same page with me when it comes to his parents, but I took the complaining too far once and he was basically like "why does it matter? My parents can't do anything right".
That was a HUGE wake-up call for me. I kind of relate it to the Little Boy who Cried Wolf. You moan and bitch over the little crap w/ your ILs, when something truly worthy of being upset happens - your SO won't care.
~Benjamin Franklin
DS dx with celiac disease 5/28/10
Totally agree. No way marrying someone means to marry their parents and relatives. It means to form a brand new unit FFS.
If a man was doing this (if her family wants to come they have to stay in a hotel, they have to work around MY schedule, they have to buy me meals, everything her family does is wrong, they have to work on my house and they can only come when I am well rested and feel like having her family come to visit) it would be raising red flags for abuse - separating that person from their family and support network, controlling when they can see them, for how long and where - right?
I could be way out in left field but hey - this to me is sounding pretty overboard.
I stand by jetlag being a ridiculous excuse (which further leads me to state what I did above) and say that even though jetlag sucks you sometimes have to just get over it. You've not even experienced jet lag with kids yet - this is just jet lag with two young, healthy adults having just traveled back from a holiday (not a funeral or intensive business trip). We travel to visit family for 1-2 week stints internationally and let me tell you, when we get back to Canada there is no "I need to lay around and not do anything for a week because of jet lag". It's more "I hope you guys like brownies and Kraft Dinner because I'll be up at 4am making everyone lunch."
OP is piling on the reasons that his family visiting doesn't work for HER. Her food preferences. Her jet lag. Her schedule. What about him?
In this sense you marry someone and you also marry into their family - you become family, and you need to accept that your husband's family matters to him, and should also matter to you.
I formed a new nuclear unit, yes, but not to the complete exclusion of our extended families.
Chronically hilarious - you'll split your stitches!
I wrote a book! Bucket list CHECK!
http://notesfortheirtherapist.blogspot.co.uk
Sorry, but I have to disagree again. You don't 'figure a way to deal' when your spouse's family decides they want to stay in your place for extended periods of time or inconvenient times when they've done so in the past. You have a discussion with your spouse first before making this kind of decision on whether or not family can stay - and come up with a compromise that will satisfy both parties. Otherwise, you wind up resenting your spouse, which is bad for your marriage.
Yes, maybe OP is a bit over the top in her attitude towards her H's family and other various complaints (so for that, I do agree with everyone here), but it is still something she needs to work out with him - not just shut up and deal. Perhaps the compromise could be something along the lines of 'hey, your family can't stay with us the week after we get back from our trip, but what about 3 weeks from then?'. And then from there, set a limit to how long they can stay - not let them stay for months at a time because they're just taking the piss at that point.
Chronically hilarious - you'll split your stitches!
I wrote a book! Bucket list CHECK!
http://notesfortheirtherapist.blogspot.co.uk
. When we got back from Israel I recovered in a day but that is an 8 hour flight.. This is a 30 hour flight. I don't expect to recover that quickly when I land and have to be back at work in 10 hours. Sorry. The last thing I want to do is be expected to have a clean house and have three meals a day prepared for two teenage boys.
I don't expect my family to come cook and clean. They always just OFFER. My parents WANT to help us when they come. They OFFER, I don't expect that of them... I guess I would think that being a mom.. you would want to help your children rather then hider them. I don't understand how leaving your college children with two teenagers for a week is really kind or loving. I do expect them to ask in advance due to our work and class sch. We can't drop everything at a moment when you just 'drop in'.
Last time we allowed his brothers to stay, they are home schooled, it went from staying for a week to a month. I was forced to run around like a chicken for a month taking care of them. We had a one bedroom TINY apartment. I don't want to open myself up to this EVER again. Period.
My husband doesn't have the time to entertain his brothers and that is the problem. He would spent time with them when he could but it ended up on ME.
The issue is that we can't seem to agree on what boundaries are for families. I wanted to get an outside perspective on what others do.
Having them outstay their welcome and being slobs (never picking up after themselves, not tossing away trash, etc.) is not exceptible.
I feel the compromise, or whatever you want to call it, needs to be family can only stay in your home x number of days (no more). They pick up after themselves but don't need to help out with chores/ cooking/ projects. If they offer great. If not it's ok.
All of our friends and family have stayed with us in our small home. Some will offer/ insist on doing chores for us (laundry, cooking, dishes, vacuuming) because they want to. The others will just pick up after themselves (toss out trash and put dishes in the sink) and nothing more. I cook for everyone or we all go out to eat no matter who stays with us.
The thing is everyone stays for the length of time we agreed on. And we do not let anyone stay in our home if we are not up / unwilling/ unable to host them at that time. Letting people stay in our home is a joint decision by H and I.