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Advice on family and facebook?

I'm having a hard time with my mother right now and facebook is making it worse, despite knowing full well that I'm displaying the maturity level of a 12 year old.

Long story short, my mother came to visit just over a month ago and now I think she is no longer talking to me, though it's not the kind of thing you want to straight up ask.  I'm okay with that part, if she needs a break from me that's fine - I'll be around when she's ready. I live very far away and only see her once a year or so - I'm not able to fly right now so haven't been home for over two years. Anyway, she came to visit, stayed with us for 4 days and it was fine but on day 3 we were chatting and she was pushing me to tell her who gets my children when (not if) I die. I was trying to avoid it because, well, my mother is very opinionated and I knew it would be a problem. She kept pushing until I told her that the girls would be going to a friend of ours, not her.

That did not go over well at all. She flipped, ripping apart my decision, demanding to know why they wouldn't go to her as she would be the best candidate, obviously and then wanted to know why if not her then why not at the very least one of her siblings. Then started crying, told me I was incredibly hurtful and stormed off - giving me (and my family) the silent treatment until 5pm the next day when we had a tense meal out and then a heart to heart about how all of my opinions are wrong, everyone in the family is better than me in every possible way and how I will never be successful. It was pretty awesome. Then they left.

Here is where FB comes in.

On their trip they went to another place as well after visiting us and her FB page was full of constant updates and pictures about how great it was, best trip ever, love that city (fair enough, I'm really pleased they had such a great time) but not a single thing about us, our kids (their only grandchildren) or anything at all about the trip with us. Even on the good days. (yes, I am being an immature 12 year old). So that stung a bit. But whatever, not a huge deal.

Now she isn't commenting on my statuses (which is kind of a blessing, as most of her comments were always very negative). I de-friended her and my sister a couple of years ago over something that had gotten out of hand and she completely flipped out, how could I be so hurtful to her and my sister, I was a horrible person, blah blah blah. It was pretty epic.  So I'm reluctant to do it again as if I do I'm sure it will cement my dis-ownment (sigh). But, I feel like FB is weird in that it's like giving someone a view into my own little world and if they are trying to hurt my by cutting me out should I be giving them that little view? I'm going through chemotherapy right now and am nearly finished my masters as well and it's like everyone comments on that but my mother - who I can't help but feel is not commenting passive aggressively. (or I am again being a 12 year old girl and need a reality check - if so, feel free)

It shows up in my feed when she comments on my sister's statuses and things... how can I hide the both of them so that I just don't have to see it? It's like I get a little cringing sting when either of them come up in my newsfeed knowing that they've cut me out again.

So a few things:

1. How can I hide them, or are there other settings that I should adjust to spare myself the visual?
2. Am I just being ridiculous?
3. I really love her sisters but feel myself pulling away because of the association with that hurt - any advice on this?
4. This sucks.
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  • Gah. Just re-read it and do sound like a 12 year old girl. I'd just like to point out that in living so far away from all of our family and friends we communicate with everyone through FB more than I think is usual. It's how we share pictures of our children with their grandparents and keep up with everyone's lives back home.
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  • Yea, this seems very immature behavior, but this is the Facebook world we live in. Anyway, to answer your question, yes, there is a way to block from seeing stuff in your newsfeed from people without unfriending them outright. I'm on my phone right now so I can't check this to be 100% sure, but I believe if you go to the individual's page, there is a thing you click on - like their name or something - and a drop down menu pops up and you can click 'do not show in newsfeed' or something like this. You can add them to you block list in your privacy settings too, but that automatically unfriends the person while the other option does not. Hope this helps.
  • You do not sound like a 12 year old. Your mom is being really unfair to you. 

    They are your kids, you decide where they go. You're deciding who can best care for them. I'm sure her behavior just solidifies your decision. You really wouldn't want her doing this to them. 

    As it has been said on here before, sometimes we just have to accept the parents we have for who they are and protect ourselves from further hurt. I don't know how to block seeing her comments, but I'm sure you could google it and I think you should do it.

    My dad's wife is a horrible bitch who hates me...and I think most people... (that's a whole other post) but she does what your mom is doing with Facebook. Never mentions me coming to help out with my dad, but anyone else who manages to make so much as a phone call to see how he is doing is a saint. I no longer have Facebook. Not just because of this, but I really love not having to see crap like that.

    I've also learned to accept the dad who raised me isn't as strong as I thought he was. I still love him, but allowing his wife to be abusive doesn't make me a good daughter. It makes me stupid. Like you, I'm not going to cut him completely out of my life. He will be gone someday and it would hurt me more to know I caused him pain by exiting his life than to change how I react to his wife and what I allow myself to take on as my problem. This was such a hard lesson. It's really just the past year that I've truly accepted it's not me. I do not to have to accept what people try to give me. Not everything is my problem. I still have to remind myself. 

    Hopefully you can take some of my situation and apply it to yours. Your mom is being childish. Don't get caught up in it. Do what you need with her sisters. If you need step away for a bit to avoid this until you feel better equipped, do so. 

    Lastly, yes, this sucks and you do not need this added stress. I don't know what you're on chemo for, but I'm sure it's not just for fun, so focus on getting better and loving those adorable kids of yours.
  • Oh you just made me feel so much better, thank you. Like a breath of fresh air.
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  • I agree with sillygirl.  You don't sound 12, you sound hurt.  Your mother sounds really emotionally manipulative.  I'm sorry you have to deal with that.

    I also agree- part of this is finding acceptance in this is who she is.  That doesn't mean you have to "take" her behavior (I'll get to that in a minute) - but it might help YOU to better navigate her if you can find a way to really just accept that this is who she is. 

    As far as "taking" her behavior - I really almost LOLd at the fact that she keeps telling you how hurtful you are.  I feel like the next time she says that, I'd respond with "Ah, yes, of course.  Because you're never hurtful..." and just let it sit there.

    Have you ever seen a counselor about this?  I might suggest that in order to find ways to deal w/ her.  Or if not a counselor, just do some of your own searching to find ways to handle her. 

    And if part of that means just stepping even further back from her, then do it.  Or if it means finding ways to bring up HER behavior to her (the whole flipping out over not leavin gyour kids to her?  I'd have wanted to say (ironically)  "Yes, mom, this, right now- this is exactly the kind of person I want my kids to grow up around....". 

    It can also mean "walking away".  She flips out? Gets mad?  Whatever.... you can hang up, you can say "I'm not going to listen to this", you can literally turn your back and walk away.  Don't give her an audience.  It might take some of the wind out of her sails. 

    As how to block/ not see- if you hover your mouse over her name, a box will come up.  There is a button that probably says "friend".  Click on it and you can UNselect "Show in news feed" and yo ucould also "demote" her to acquaintance - I feel like they show up less than my friends.
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  • Awesome, thank you. I've just done that and it was kind of a relief!

    As for the tantrum - yeah, the irony was not lost on my husband or I. Yeesh. I am doing much better, previously her not speaking to me or treating me like this would have resulted in me at the bedroom door moments later assuring her that she would of course get the kids and I was so sorry to have upset her, etc. Yeah, I have issues and they are pretty deep rooted. Me even just being cool with her cutting me out is kind of a big step. (I know, I know)

    Now that it hurts so much less it may be easier for me to hang up and tell her that I'm not going to listen to this. She really doesn't realize (okay, she probably does) how hurtful she is - everything she says and does is under some heading of her being wonderful.

    Gah. I once told her that I sometimes wish we lived at home. Her response was that if I moved home I would be on welfare because I have no skills and the best job I could get would be at a gas station, or Walmart if I'm lucky. Um... thanks mom? (she's just being realistic according to her, and getting me to think of what is best for my family. For what it's worth I'm the breadwinner in my family and actually do very well professionally, but whatever. It's lost on her)
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  • I just wanted to clafiry that when I said it seems like immature behavior, I was referring more on your mother's part....it's hard to not get sucked into people's bs on facebook, but if you just remove from your newsfeed, that should help prevent any more hard feelings. You can click off the notifications and stuff on the person's individual page....
  • Oh, thanks. I thought you meant me because I was letting something so stupid effect me so much. Which is still a valid point, really, LOL.
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  • Oh, thanks. I thought you meant me because I was letting something so stupid effect me so much. Which is still a valid point, really, LOL.

    Meh...it happens to the best of us, really. There's been a few times I've literally wanted to reach through the computer screen and smack people for some of the stuff they say. My facebook is weird because I use it both for personal and music industry related stuff and I've gotten into some (very) heated arguments with people on there. Then I realize how ridiculous it all is that I'm getting so worked up over something that was said - online - and so, I either delete the offender or just remove them from my newsfeed. It all depends on how I'm feeling that day ;)

    And btw - I especially understand how it feels dealing with family on there. My 18 year old cousin unfriended me because he didn't agree with my views on gun control (he thinks the US should be a free for all wild wild west when it comes to guns - I clearly do not agree with this). My mother stalks my fb. For example, I go away on vacation and if I post up a photo, and she will comment 'must be nice'. There's more, but that's her in a nutshell. It's like some passive-aggressive type of bs too. Then there's the other nonsense with my inlaws....I physically blocked my SIL because I was tired of being tagged in photos from her 2 ginourmous weddings more than a year after the fact, her engagement photos, photos that neither me or my H are even in. (she's mega-super AW and it's become very obvious in the last 2 years since she married my H's brother). Oh yea, and my H's cousin unfriended all of us because she doesn't agree with him marrying outside of their culture, even though she did too, making her a big fat hypocrite. So yea, I feel your pain ;) hahaha

  • LOL - glad to know I'm not alone!
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  • I defriended a former friend on FB when she stopped talking to me. It was year and everything on her page was her being a AW and all her friends.  We worked through the difference a little bit and are FB friends again, but she still annoys me.  I think some people are just really annoying on FB due to being AWs.  I have her hidden and don't let her see all my posts.  She likes to post on everyone's page like she is their BFF even though IRL she wants nothing to do with them.  I find it fake even though I think it is more her own insecurity. 

    I know you talk to most of your family on FB, which I get.  I found canceling my account altogether was too much, but I did a mini FB account and got rid of a lot of crap.  I also started to tailor my FB account to becoming friends with new people in my area.  I really don't care about people I haven't seen in 10 or 20 years.  So I think you can use FB (even though it is an unwieldy double edged sword) and try to point it in a positive direction. 
  • New feature they just added to FB to make it easier to do this. You might have to be on a computer to do it, but they added an 'unfollow' button next to the Friends button. It's on the bottom right of the cover photo. I'm assuming all activity from that user will be unfollowed from your news feed, so hopefully unfollowing both of them will do the trick.
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  • I agree with sillygirl.  You don't sound 12, you sound hurt.  Your mother sounds really emotionally manipulative.  I'm sorry you have to deal with that.

    This. You have shown greater maturity than your mother, in my opinion. 
  • I think you got some great advice already, so I just wanted to say I don't think you're being immature either, and your mom sounds like she can be very deliberately cruel. She can pretend she's being "honest" or helpful, but she's not, she's being mean. There are ways to support a family member or be honest without tearing them down. It might be for the best that you're not talking right now, and all you can do is try not to feel bad about it. (I know that's not easy. DH's mom often ignores us to teach us a lesson, and it's crazy how well those passive aggressive strategies work!!) Just remind yourself that you did nothing wrong. Just because she doesn't like your decision, doesn't mean it's wrong or that you should change your mind. Good luck, I'm sorry you have to deal with this!
  • Thank you again everyone, very much. Am feeling much better about the whole thing and breathing a little easier.

    Now though, what to do about Christmas? I didn't call her on Mother's Day once (If I recall correctly she wasn't talking to me leading up to the holiday then either) and I got a teary, angry phone call the next day about how I "completely ruined another holiday for her". Sigh. 

    So this Christmas I'm assuming that she is still not speaking to me - do I call with a polite Merry Christmas, hope you are all having a great day! to her and her family? Do I still send a gift? Just a nicely worded Christmas email? Anonymously pay-pal money to a local 10 year old to leave a bag of flaming dog crap on the door step with a Merry Christmas note?

    Leftie - how you worded that: She can pretend she's being "honest" or helpful, but she's not, she's being mean. There are ways to support a family member or be honest without tearing them down. was just hands down a savings of at least a couple grand on extensive therapy. A very merry christmas to you too!
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  • Hmmm...well what do you normally do for Christmas? Do you send a gift? Or does it depend on whether or not you are on speaking terms? I'd say if anything, at least call - and you don't have to stay on the phone long, just a quick Merry Christmas. If she puts on some guilt trip or starts with her nonsense, don't feed into it - just get off the phone quickly.
  • Hmmm...well what do you normally do for Christmas? Do you send a gift? Or does it depend on whether or not you are on speaking terms? I'd say if anything, at least call - and you don't have to stay on the phone long, just a quick Merry Christmas. If she puts on some guilt trip or starts with her nonsense, don't feed into it - just get off the phone quickly.
    ^^ This. You'll avoid the next day guilt trip. Just have a reason you have to get off the phone. Something's burning, the toilet's overflowing...whatever gets you off the phone.
  • Sounds good, thanks!
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  • Tofumonkey, I know you have been dealing with your mother for a long, long time now.  My heart really goes out to you.

    However, I do want to give you a kudos or a pat on the back.  In a few years here on the Nest, I have seen you become much more brave and for that I commend you.  That took a lot of guts to even choose another guardian for your children knowing it would upset your family.  You have your priorities right where they should be. 

  • Disneygeek that is very sweet of you, thank you. I'm surprised that you remembered my issues with my mother and yes, I've been dealing with them for a very long time now. I guess that is the beauty of an online forum such as this - you get people from all walks of life giving you a different perspective and once some of it sticks it kind of grows on you.


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  • Time the ef out (sorry if this has been addressed, I skipped some comments).

    Your MOTHER asked about WHEN you die while you're currently going through chemotherapy?  Uh uh. No way Jose. Unfriend that biacth NOW.  Don't look back, don't feel bad.  Focus on you, your health, your degree, and your kids.  When your mom wants to apologize, decide if you want her in your life.  Otherwise, ignore the noise.
  • Disneygeek that is very sweet of you, thank you. I'm surprised that you remembered my issues with my mother and yes, I've been dealing with them for a very long time now. I guess that is the beauty of an online forum such as this - you get people from all walks of life giving you a different perspective and once some of it sticks it kind of grows on you.



    I remember you saying something about her giving you a hard time when you were pregnant and I think when you first moved to England.  My heart truly goes out to you. 

    I think you are doing as wonderful job as a mother and I commend you for putting your children's happiness and well being above your mom's. 

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    OP - The problem is your mother, not you. I am 26 and since I started forming my opinion about things, thinking for myself and wanting things differently than what my other wanted for me, my mother and I have had a rocky relationship.

    I am still trying to get to a point mentally/psychologically/emotionally where her emotional guilt can no longer effect/affect (not sure which one, sorry) me. My mother has done so much crap to me that it makes your mother look like a saint.

    Anyways, your mother sounds very manipulative. I can understand she was hurt at first when you told her she wouldn't be getting the kids but to carry on the way she did. Yeah....that is just plain immaturity. She is upset because things are not going her way so she is making the situation about her. Making it sound like YOU are the one who wronged HER. It's not right at all...

    I am glad you stuck up for yourself. You need to. I would say listen to what other PPs said.

    I just wanted to chime in and let you know that you are not the only one out there with a mother like that. Stay strong and I hope things turn out for the better for ya. As for facebook my mother isn't on there neither is my dad. I have suspicions my uncles tell my parents what I am up to and my mother takes it the way she wants to take it. That's on her, not me.
  • @ Disneygeek - Thank you. She didn't give me a hard time in moving to England, she was thrilled as she hated that I lived in China, lol. She was upset (and still is) that I don't live in Notting Hill or Kensington and don't live what she thinks is the London lifestyle of going out, eating out and being a tourist in my own city (gag me with a spoon). What she just does not get is that although she only sees London on holiday - living here is not like a holiday. It is the same as real life anywhere - just in a city she prefers. I still have to go to work during the week and spend my weekends buying groceries and cleaning my bathroom - not watching the stupid changing of the guard and stalking William and Kate. (ow. I just rolled my eyes so hard that I hurt myself)

    I've come to understand that nothing I ever do will be good enough for her and that's fine - I need to live my life for me, not her.

    And yes, my pregnancy with her was pretty amusing, to say the least. She fought to be the family here for the twins' birth, then was on a Thames River Cruise during my planned cesarean, showing up at the hospital 20 minutes before the end of visiting hours and throwing a fit with the nurses. It was pretty awesome. Then guilted me into taking the twins to Harrods for the day to shop, 10 days after my c-section.

    Like I said, awesome.

    @CL1242009 - thanks. That is exactly what she does. I wronged her. At everything. You are absolutely right, the way she takes things is on her, not me. She had another fit recently where I emailed out something to family about our recent trip to Disneyland and I fat-broke a ride. I thought it was hysterical, my family all thought it was hysterical. She was horrified, my weight isn't funny and I should be humiliated, not laughing about it.

    When in reality, it was actually very, very funny. (turns out I didn't actually fat-break it as I am nowhere near that kind of large but I thought I did and made a huge scene. Humiliating and yet oh so funny)

    It has been 7 weeks since she has spoken to me and you know what? Feels kind of good. I'm building up a bit of righteous anger too, and really think I've turned a corner here. (well, one can hope)
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  • Good for you! I'm glad you're feeling better!
  • You sound like a strong, great person. Block your mom, surround yourself with ONLY positive people, and I wish you the best of luck. It also seems like setting your will to not include your mom was a very good decision. Keep protecting yourself and your family!

    You might be better off quitting Facebook altogether.
  • Oh man, it just got good again.

    My husband messaged my dad, hope you guys are enjoying the holidays, blah blah blah. Nice message, no worries. Dad replied, we're good, bah humbug, blah blah blah.

    Then Dad replies (all by FB messages) to my husband again, this time going on in a style that is clearly my mother writing it. Going on about how I stopped talking to her, not the other way around (??), that I didn't even contact her to see how she was coping with a crisis they were having (I did - I actually sent a really lovely text message to her when it happened after having spoke to my dad on the phone and just never got a response) and that I haven't responded to any of her emails (what emails?). Then said that my poor mother is still crying over our decision to give the girls to a friend of ours if anything happened to us.

    Ho Ly HELL. 

    My husband replied saying oh, that's strange - we've not received any emails or calls, and Tofumonkey sent this text (screenshots with date and 'delivered') but just never got a response. How strange. 

    He's didn't even address the whole 'crying over our decision' crap, and we don't plan to.

    Seriously. She is pretending to be my dad on Facebook now. This is just weird and dramatic. It's been something like 8 weeks now and I just feel... relaxed. Confident. Happy. 

    Just thought I'd share the crazy.
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  • Jeez...I really feel sorry for you. I don't know how you do it, but I imagine living so far away actually makes the crazy somewhat easier to manage. Thats how I felt when I lived overseas dealing with my family and IL's...distance made it easier to ignore the bs.

    I'm glad that you are staying strong and realize that your decisions regarding your children are in their best interest - and not caving to your mother's antics to appease her.

    I second quitting fb if it's causing this much drama....you don't need that stress in your life.
  • What are you nuts!?! Quit Facebook altogether? How would I get my fill of juicy dirty laundry airing of people I've not spoken to since high school, the latest "10 critical car seat mistakes I didn't know I was making", homophobic redneck rants and highly intelligent and well thought out debates about Obamacare and whether or not police officers in Quebec should be allowed to wear veils?

    HOW?!?!?!!

    How will I get the latest funny cat pictures and updates from STFU Parents? How will I possibly know when my friends' children have pooped on their potties successfully, or what type of hideous strawberry cream filled vagina cake my friends are presenting at their baby showers? How will I know about people's house renovations, what funny thing their kids said and who's announcing a breakdown of their marriage via changing their status to "it's complicated" and posting passive aggressive photos of sun kissed mountain fields with phrases about letting go of negative people.

    HOW!!????!?!?

    Look you guys, you can't let the terrorists win. I will not apologise to that tyrant and I will not allow her to ruin the awesomeness that is Facebook over-sharing!
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  • Quit Facebook... pah. I am far too nosy and judgemental to do something so drastic. 
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