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But he didn't say that.
I get what you're saying but in this case, you have to look at it from the Bible standpoint, regadless of what you personally believe, because that is the standpoint Phil is coming from. If you do that, then you're comparing apples to oranges. His faith follows the Bible, which he believes to be the inerrant Word of God. The ultimate book on right and wrong, good and evil, sin and perfection, God and man. For Christians who believe that, the Bible is the guiding light to life. It is the Truth and the "holy grail", if you will, of "rules". What it has to say is very controversial and isn't popular among the general population.
Regardless of your personal beliefs, the Bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin. Sin is sin. Is homosexuality a worse sin than lying in God's eyes? no. Is it a worse sin than adultery in God's eyes? no. Does God (or Phil Robertson for that matter) hate people who are gay? No (no where in the article did Phil say he hated them.. in fact he said he doesn't treat them any differently or judge, but this is speculation on my part). God cares deeply about them and ALL of us, but sin is sin and God hates sin. It's like the old saying "Love the sinner, hate the sin".
The Bible says nothing about being black or white or green or purple being a sin, but it does speak to other things. You can change the wording on a lot of things but my point here is, he didn't say anything about being black or white or having warts or cancer or or two left feet. He specifically spoke about homosexuality because that is what the Bible addresses and what (i'm sure) he was specifically asked about.
ETA: I definitely think the way Phil went about saying was less than optimal, but again.. he's known for speaking his mind as is so it is what it is.
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This is also where we'll have to disagree. And please believe me when I say that I DO NOT in any way mean this in a condescending way, but it's hard to explain to someone who doesn't share the same core beliefs. It's is just one of those things that we will always disagree on. I don't think ANY less of you for believing the way you do, and I would hope you don't of me though I know that my thinking is more controversial so that is not likely. It's part of the path I've chosen by believing what I do though, so I have to accept that.
That said, I absolutely believe people have stronger tendencies towards certain sins and I believe it is the same for homosexuality. It is their bent. The same can be said for a habitual liar.. someone who lies so much they truthfully do not know what the truth IS anymore. Does it make lying any less a sin because the person can't stop lying? Even if they're white lies that aren't necessarily what someone would consider harmful? No. It's still sin. And again, I am JUST AS SINFUL as the next person. I am NOT saying that because I am not gay, I am better or less sinful. Oh, Lord knows that is not the case. I just have other bents. Like gluttony for example. I try so hard, but I still fail and I know that I'm sinning when I do it and I hate it. That's why I rely on God's grace. It doesn't excuse my sinfulness and I will continually strive to stay away from sin, but I know that Jesus' grace covers me. So all that to say, each person is geared towards different sins. We're all sinful and we are all different. I don't struggle with homosexuality. Or stealing. But I struggle with other things, which are no worse or better, but just different.
I hope even a tiny bit of that makes sense. And I do hope we can all still be friends because I think differences in opinions are interesting and I DO love hearing other opinions! I won't change your mind and you won't change mine, but we can talk and learn, which I love
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None of us get to choose what we're bent towards, so in that sense, no it's not a choice. That goes for anything that is sin, IMO. It's not the tendencies that are sinful necessarily. It's what we DO with the tendancies. I can feel like eating a whole pie in an hour and reallyreallreally struggle with that. I could feel like it's much easier to lie myself out of crappy situation to avoid consequences or awkward situations, and I don't think it's wrong to be tempted by those things. Even Jesus himself was tempted.. he knows what it feels like to want something so bad... Sin is VERY enticing. It's whether or not I sit down and do those things that makes it sinful. And again, I do sin. I do. It's not ok, but I do. I'm not perfect. So no, I don't think it's a choice to have certain feelings towards sins, I believe it's what you do with the feeling. That's just based on my beliefs and my faith and I know that some/most disagree that homosexuality is even a sin. That's your belief and I can only share what I think based on my views.
I'll have to check out the video at home. It won't let me see it for some reason. I'm blocked on most pictures and all vids on GP and half the time all over the web
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What is up for discussion here shouldn't be whether homosexuality is a sin or not, it's whether or not he deserved the suspension. I believe that he does. I think regardless of what he meant or how he said it he still lead people to believe that he was anti-gay while representing A&E. If I was working and lead someone to believe that I was anti-gay and they reported me I would lose my job. No matter If I meant it the way it came across or not. This situation is on a bigger scale because of the fame associated with him, but the consequences are the same. Freedom of religion does not mean you are exempt. If he spoke this way to his family or friends it wouldn't be an issue with A&E, but because he interviewed as an employee he is subject to suspension for his words and actions.
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First off, I totally respect YOUR opinions and love you dearly too, friend
I DO understand where you're coming from though and I DO understand why some would be upset and hurt, and it really does hurt my heart to know that people are hurting. I hate that. I do think his wording was crass. It's just hard to give a definitive answer to this question since we weren't all in the room to hear the full extent of the conversation. We only get snippets that the inteviewer chooses to share
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I respect those with differing opinions if those opinions aren't rooted in hate. And some opinions are more valid than others, frankly, because they're right.
So when did I ever say I have a problem with gay people?? You can think how ever you like about me, that's fine. But why does us having different opinions about this make me a bigot?? I simply stated that he has the right to express his opinion about something, especially when asked. I mean, I have my beliefs and you have yours. Is your belief more right than mine? No, right? It is simply a difference in opinion. What is the problem there?
Disagreeing with a lifestyle =/= homophobia and bigotry.
I can love someone and respect someone who has sex before marriage, has a child outside of wedlock, who drinks heavily,
Supporting the "right" to spew hate speech makes you a bigot. Clear and simple. Even if you don't agree with it, you are tacitly endorsing it. You are endorsing the kinds of opinions that contribute to kids killing themselves. You are endorsing the opinions that lead to laws that suppress others' happiness. You're endorsing ideas that allow for discrimination laws to still exist. It's disgusting.
If you want to be proud of that, good for you. It's certainly your right. But it's my right to think you're a close-minded person who is ignorant of the struggles and pain of others.
There are many people who support gay marriage, who love peope who are LGBT, and yet disagree with the lifestyle. They don't discriminate against them, and they don't hate them, they are far from intolerant, they can even comprehend the pain and struggles they face.
Disagreement does not equal hate.
Oh, and continuing to debate and accuse others of bigotry but refusing to actually read the opposing side's position is pretty low.
Your words are filled with more hatred and ignorance than Phil Robertson's.
You have no idea what my beliefs are on this subject, at this point it is irrelevant. I came in here and commented because I respect this community and those in it, not because of my personal beliefs on the issue.
It's really depends on the issue for me. I have some major hot button issues that I will hop into the discussion because I am passionate about it.
This topic, while I hold strong opinions I tend to keep my emotions and opinions out of it. :-).
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He is one smart dude. I think he knew exactly what he was saying and was ready for the repercussions.
**And just because it appears you need clarification Lillie. Respect =/= agree with.
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