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MIL wants me to call her Mom

My MIL is a very nice and living woman. She has 2 other daughter in laws and they all call her Mom. She only had boys so to her we all feel like daughters to her. I have been married for 8 mths,and am slowly building a relationship with my in laws. Over the holidays while visiting us for the weekend my MIL pulled me aside and didn't merely ask me to call her Mom, requested it and told me she feels awkward if I call her by her name and gave a huge guilt trip of how it would honor her if I called her Mom, that she understands if she has to earn that relationship but that the day I married her son I became her daughter and that she is my Mom. She also wants me to call his father, Dad.

I have a very close relationship with my mom and not only do I feel it disrespectful to call someone else Mom, I have one Mom..so I'm never going to call my MIL that. Also my father passed when I was 15, her request for me to call my FIL Dad is too close to home.

My husband completely understands and was bothered that his mom would make such a request and told me to call them by their names as I felt comfortable.

The problem is my MIL has made it awkward for to call her anything but Mom becuz she made it clear how much she dislikes hearing me call her by her name. On the one hand I appreciate that she feels so much for me to consider me her daughter so quickly though on the other it feels like she is trying to force a relationship. Yes the other 2 daughter in laws call them mom and dad and did that on their own, but I just can't do it.

I've seen her once since the conversation and felt so awkward, I didn't even call her anything, just avoided having to use a name, lol. I feel like this is precedent setting for our relationship as to how I'm going to respond and if I'm going to give in..my husband offered to talk to her, which is not a bad idea though I'm concerned it could back fire.

Anyone else had this issue?
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    Well, on one hand, I don't think it's disrespectful to call more than one person "mom".  Kids call more than one person grandma/ nana/ aunt/ uncle, etc.  To a degree, it is just a title. 

    BUT that being said, it's fully your choice on whether you want to call someone else "mom" or not and she's in the wrong to try and make you feel guilty about it. 

    I would leave the "disrespectful" argument out of it, but I think that you (with DH being there) should address this w/ her.  Tell her that you appreciate her request, you're glad she feels that close to you, BUT it's just not something you will be able to do - at least not now, perhaps not ever.  What you said about your father - that I would absolutely bring up. It's just too close to home/ too painful.

    I would also tell her that you want to respect her but you need for her to respect you too.  She doesn't like you using her name.  Does she have any other suggestions?  (Or do you have another ideas?)

    And if she gets upset/ pushes the issue, that's where I feel your DH may need to step in.  I think she may need to hear it from him too that she can't force this and that he backs YOU up. 

    The two of you can still have a close relationship.  It's kind of up to her to what degree she lets this be "AN ISSUE". 
  • My husband calls both my parents by their first names. They're ok with that.

    My sister in law flip-flops calling them by their first names and calling them Mumma/Papa(Last Name). My parents are also OK with this.

    I would suggest the Mom/Dad (last name) to them.
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  • My MIL didn't go quite this far, but she calls her MIL Mom and told me that she hopes I will do the same to her, that it would honor her, etc. I feel the same as you- I can't do it and I don't want to. I have a wonderful Mom and I do feel that it is disrespectful to her if I were to call someone else Mom. 

    I think you just need to be honest, in a loving way. Say that you are honored and you think very highly of her, but that you aren't going to be calling her Mom or your FIL Dad because you believe that the title is reserved for the people who raised you (or something to that affect).

    When my MIL told me she hoped I would call her Mom, I was so surprised I just said "but I have a Mom" and then my FIL jumped in to rescue me. So my situation was a bit different and I don't have any SILs or BILs who do use those titles, but in the end, you need to stick with what you feel comfortable with. I just imagine me calling my MIL "Mom" in front of my actual Mom. My Mom would probably be extremely hurt, and I think rightfully so. 
  • Come up with some kind of cute little "in between" --- maybe call her "Ma R" (or whatever your first initial of your last name is.

    I called my then MIL "Ma R." She liked it.:)
  • My mother in law tried the same thing.  The whole manipulative, "would you do X for me. Its what we do in our family" in front of everyone.  

    I politely said "thank you for the wonderful sentiment, but I don't think it would be appropriate." Then I bean-dipped.  I know she kvetched about it to my SILs and other family friends. 

    And I have called her by her first name ever since.  It took a few firm, looking straight in her eye to get the point across.  But after that, what could she really do?

    The fact of the matter is, unlike what a Previous Poster stated, terms of endearment are EARNED, not just willy-nilly given out.  My daughter doesn't call every over 60 woman in her life Granny or Nana.  Nor does she call every one of my good friends Aunt or Uncle.  

    Well, my MIL (and I would suspect most MILs) have not earned the term of endearment.  They have not DONE anything to mother their daughter or son - in-laws.  And if you are old enough to get married, nor should they be parenting you. 

    Granted, if you have a particularly close and nurturing relationship with your inlaws and you MUTUALLY determine that the parental term of endearment fits, then bully for you.  

    But the majority of people do NOT have or need that. And OP, you do not need anyone, be it your MIL or another poster to make you feel like you have to lessen that term of endearment to make someone else happy.  



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  • Come up with some kind of cute little "in between" --- maybe call her "Ma R" (or whatever your first initial of your last name is.

    I called my then MIL "Ma R." She liked it.:)

    This is a good suggestion. I think ultimately it's a personal choice - and one that shouldn't be forced. I also feel uncomfortable calling my MIL 'mom' so I just call her by her first name. I know she ideally would prefer I call her mom, but that special title is reserved for the woman who actually gave birth to and raised me.
  • I think it's really weird for her to ask. If you wanted to call her mom, you would. And as for being disrespectful, just because someone asks you to do something and you don't want to do It, doesn't mean you're disrespectful. She has her opinion and you have yours. You have every right not to call her "mom" if you don't want to. You can still treat her with respect without giving in to her request.
  • Ilumine said:

     
    The fact of the matter is, unlike what a Previous Poster stated, terms of endearment are EARNED, not just willy-nilly given out.  My daughter doesn't call every over 60 woman in her life Granny or Nana.  Nor does she call every one of my good friends Aunt or Uncle.  


     

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  • I call MIL by her name most of the time, but will occasionally call her Mom.

    It's really all about what you feel comfortable with.  Sometimes I feel comfortable calling MIL by her name, and sometimes I feel comfortable calling her Mom.  And it works for us.

    I'm sorry your MIL is demanding more than you feel comfortable with.  That's rough.
  • It's definitely weird that she did that.  IMO, if you really feel that strongly about it, YOUR DH should be the one to talk to HIS MOM about it.  It's his job to run interference with his relatives and stick up for you.

    But honestly, who cares?  This doesn't in any way diminish your relationship with your mother.  If you can't say "Dad" - try "Daddio" or other some such nonsense.  Refusing causes unnecessary drama.  Over a 3 letter word.  My opinion is that this doesn't have to be a big deal. 

    Or just agree and "forget".  Next time she mentions it, smile and nod and say "Oops, sorry, forgot, I'll have to work on that!" and then just keep calling her by her name anyway.  "Sorry, just hard to get used to!" is a fine answer.  You can probably just agree and get away with almost never saying Mom for the rest of your life.  Once you have kids you can call her "Grandma" and the whole thing will be over anyway. 

     

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  • Janimal said:

    But honestly, who cares?  This doesn't in any way diminish your relationship with your mother.  If you can't say "Dad" - try "Daddio" or other some such nonsense.  Refusing causes unnecessary drama.  Over a 3 letter word.  My opinion is that this doesn't have to be a big deal. 

    Or just agree and "forget".  Next time she mentions it, smile and nod and say "Oops, sorry, forgot, I'll have to work on that!" and then just keep calling her by her name anyway.  "Sorry, just hard to get used to!" is a fine answer.  You can probably just agree and get away with almost never saying Mom for the rest of your life.  Once you have kids you can call her "Grandma" and the whole thing will be over anyway. 

     

    It's a big deal to the OP.  You don't care?  Good - you can call your MIL "mom".  But the OP is far from the only person who has an issue w/ this.  She shouldn't have to compromise her feelings on this or play a game of "forgetting".


    I think her MIL guilting her over this also causes "unnecessary drama".

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  • Thank you so much for the replies ladies. Its nice to have the support to see that I am not being unreasonable. I understand for some this isn't an issue and calling their MIL mom comes naturally, which is what it was for her other 2 daughter in laws. I spoke to my Mom about it and she was a bit taken aback. She comically said, "well you can't call her Mom..at least not while I am alive..." lol, but she understood the sentiment in how my MIL felt that I became her daughter and said that my in laws are just traditional and that she probably called her MIL mom so it is a form of endearment and respect to them. She also knows me so well and knows that it is never going to happen, and would never expect for my husband to call her Mom. 

    I think you guys are right, honesty will be the best policy on this one and I am probably going to have to sit down with my husband and we will have to talk to her together. I hesitate naturally because I do not want her to be offended or think I did not think highly of her opening up to me and letting me know she felt close enough to me to call me her daughter already...but her addressing it with me over the holidays when we were by ourselves and putting the guilt trip on me so heavily did the opposite of making me feel close to her and kind of made me put a guard up. She is retired but throughout her career was in a very high corporate executive position so when she pulls you aside to talk to you it is very business like and precise. Overall she is a wonderful Mom to her children and loving person, this first one on one with her over the holiday s has just been left to fester. 

    Thanks again for all of the advice it really helps see it from a different perspective. 
  • Well, you know, it's definitely not fair that she put a guilt trip on you because if she does it with that and you give in, it sets a precedent that she can guilt trip you and most likely get her way with other stuff in the future.

    Again, absolutely nothing wrong with not feeling comfortable/right calling her mom. It's a personal choice.
  • DH is one of 3 boys.  He was the last to get married.  SILs were already calling our MIL Mom and FIL Dad by the time I came along.  It was totally weird to call them Mom & Dad when everyone called them that.  In the beginning, I called her by their first names.  Then, there was a long period where I kinda didn't call them anything.  When I felt comfortable, I started calling them Mom & Dad.  Your father's passing definitely changes things.  I'd be honest about your feelings with your ILs, in a nice way of course.  Honesty helps build relationships.

    I'd like to add that 10 years into this marriage thing, and I love my ILs like parents (but I got pretty lucky in the IL department).  That love is in no way as deep as my love for my parents.  They love me like a daughter.  We are family.
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  • That sounds absurd. I wouldn't call anyone else Mom and Dad no matter how close they were to me in relation. I have a Mom and Dad for goodness sake! If my MIL requested something that absurd and had the guts to attach a guilt trip to it I sure as heck wouldn't let her get her way. It would set a terrible precedent.
  • Sorry , but I think y'all are being a bit uptight about this.
    It's NOT a big deal to call this woman the name she prefers.

    What if her name was Betty but one day she decides everyone call her Candy ? Would you refuse because it's not her "real" name!

    I asked my ILs what they would like to be called. I'd have called them anything they liked. Because in the grand scheme of "in law issues" this just isn't one. And their presence in your life together is up to you anyway, and unfortunately temporary. My MIL was a delight. Not like my own Mom but lovely and I miss her . Damn I wish I could have made her happy more. Fil is 85 and a bit of a pill. But he raised a great man and I will do anything for him the time we have with him. That's perspective.

    One day you may just look back and see that you were foolish to refuse this very simple, very easy request. Save your confrontation for something that actually IS important. Calling her mom won't hurt you or any of your relationships . But it sounds like it will hurt the feelings of your MIL, who at least seems to be coming from a living place.

    Sometime love is doing something you don't wanna do for someone else . Hell, marriage is A LOT of that. Well, if you 're doing it right.

    Seriously, build a bridge here and get over it.
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  • I don't think anyone here is being uptight - it's a matter of personal preference. If you call your MIL mom and feel comfortable doing so, more power to you, but some of us here don't. And clearly OP doesn't and was wanting to get opinions on whether or not she was right in feeling the way she does and the best way to handle it.

    I certainly don't feel comfortable calling my MIL mom because 1 - she's not my mother and 2 - she's done shit to me in the past that make me feel that she doesn't deserve that title - at least not from me. IDK, would you feel comfortable calling someone 'mom' who disrespected you and then told your H 9 months before your wedding that he should 'delay the wedding' because you wouldn't let her have control then caused all sorts of unecessary drama the day of your wedding for all to see? I don't think so.

    Just because someone demands or guilts you into doing something doesn't automatically mean you should do it. It sends the message that they can do this with other things if you allow them. Some people you give an inch and they take a mile....
  • Oh and btw, last time I checked, you marry your spouse, not his mother. I would do anything for my H, but I draw the line at calling his mother 'mom'. And he knows to never ask this of me.
  • My BFFs mom asked me to call her mom after mine passed away. (20 years ago) It was weird to me then. But I did it, for her. She's not like my mom, and to be honest she's generally not that nurturing! But I call her mom anyway. For her . Her asking was her way of trying to help me. My compliance was my gratitude. The discomfort of it is SO freaking minor. I still call her mom and it sounds unnatural to me but it makes her happy and it's not a big deal. I'm glad I was able to comply, and 20 years later we have a good relationship still.

    In this situation the MIL is "nice and loving" and this appears to be a welcoming thing as part of the family. Heck, everyone else calls her mom! It's her identity!
    This does not appear sinister or a test of manipulation.

    This is making a bigger deal out of an awkward situation than it needs to be. Mom is not a sacred word. It has been requested as a loving acceptance which makes this not a big problem. Scroll around a bit and you can read about truly awful ILs and you can see that this mil, while maybe misguided, is one others would kill for! Make her happy when you can and be a sweet dil. There's a difference between sweet to your mil and being a pushover. Choose sweet.

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  • Then check again. You marry a man, his family comes with.
    And it is the right thing to do a bit of work to please ils. Accepting some customs and traditions is part of the deal.
    Am you would do ANYTHING but call her mom? That's a bit dramatic.

    You know why mils and dils don't get along? When both just want their way or nothing . Give a bit. It works.

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  • Janimal said:

    Then check again. You marry a man, his family comes with.
    And it is the right thing to do a bit of work to please ils. Accepting some customs and traditions is part of the deal.
    Am you would do ANYTHING but call her mom? That's a bit dramatic.

    You know why mils and dils don't get along? When both just want their way or nothing . Give a bit. It works.

    Again - matter of preference - if that's what works for you, more power to you. And no, when I married my H, I didn't marry his family too. There's that little thing in the vows called 'foresaking all others'...perhaps you missed that part when you got married.

    And btw - I do get along with my MIL, despite the initial bullshit with her, which we put behind us, and I am cordial and respectful towards her, but that doesn't mean I will ever call her mom, because again, she is not my mom.
  • Janimal said:

    My BFFs mom asked me to call her mom after mine passed away. (20 years ago) It was weird to me then. But I did it, for her. She's not like my mom, and to be honest she's generally not that nurturing! But I call her mom anyway. For her . Her asking was her way of trying to help me. My compliance was my gratitude. The discomfort of it is SO freaking minor. I still call her mom and it sounds unnatural to me but it makes her happy and it's not a big deal. I'm glad I was able to comply, and 20 years later we have a good relationship still.

    In this situation the MIL is "nice and loving" and this appears to be a welcoming thing as part of the family. Heck, everyone else calls her mom! It's her identity!
    This does not appear sinister or a test of manipulation.

    This is making a bigger deal out of an awkward situation than it needs to be. Mom is not a sacred word. It has been requested as a loving acceptance which makes this not a big problem. Scroll around a bit and you can read about truly awful ILs and you can see that this mil, while maybe misguided, is one others would kill for! Make her happy when you can and be a sweet dil. There's a difference between sweet to your mil and being a pushover. Choose sweet.

    Look, I see what you are saying, but this works for you - not everyone else. That doesn't make people uptight just because they don't agree with you either.
  • Glad you get along. That's taken some effort on your part, yes?

    My guess is that being respectful takes effort but you do it for your dh, which is admirable and the right thing to do.

    Lucky for the op, her situation with her mil sounds much better, easier, and lacks drama. No need to create any over the mil's moniker. I imagine your efforts might seem almost Herculean compared to this minor task.

    The mil here had boys. My guess is that could have something to go with it. A mother yearning for and not having a girl can be so powerful. Calling her Mom is a kindness. Easily given.

    Unless this family is at Downton Abbey, and you are together daily, it's an occasional situation at worst anyway.
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  • Oh, and forsaking all others refers to fidelity, not a disregard for relatives !!!!
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  • Janimal said:
     Damn I wish I could have made her happy more. Fil is 85 and a bit of a pill. But he raised a great man and I will do anything for him the time we have with him. That's perspective.

    Perspective on what?  "People die so you have to do what they want"??

     

    As others said, people having a different view on this doesn't make anyone uptight.  For all the talk of making people happy and respect, it's a two way street. 

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  • Janimal said:

     Damn I wish I could have made her happy more. Fil is 85 and a bit of a pill. But he raised a great man and I will do anything for him the time we have with him. That's perspective.




    Perspective on what?  "People die so you have to do what they want"??

     

    As others said, people having a different view on this doesn't make anyone uptight.  For all the talk of making people happy and respect, it's a two way street. 

    Seriously, if I did everything my MIL guilted me into doing just because she's 'going to die one day' or she 'might be upset', then I would be upsetting myself by forcing myself to do something I don't want to do. And sorry, but I love myself more than I love her, so she can get over herself.

    On the surface, my MIL is 'nice', but she is also very manipulative. In the 11 years that I've been with my H, I've learned this about her. So I put on a happy face when I have to, but both she and my H know that if she steps out of line with me, I have no problem putting her in her place. Thankfully it doesn't happen often, but my H backs me up.

    And it's true - respect IS a two way street.


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    Wow thanks so much for the honest feedback, obviously this is not just a first time issue with MIL's and DIL's, so it's nice to read about past experiences! The truth is it does make it hard whenever your MIL is a very nice and loving person, but I agree with the comments about not losing yourself and giving in to something you're not comfortable with. I can definitely see how it is not a big deal for some people, but to me it is strictly a name reserved for my own mother and father. Especially having already addressed this with my mom, and knowing that she would be hurt if she heard me doing it, adds weight to the issue for me and assures that it would never be done, we are just too close to call another person Mom, especially to call my FIL Dad, that name is sacred and respectful to my deceased father. My MIL likens it to the fact that she is a Mother and per her words when she asked me she said, " I am a mother, I am your mother in-law, so I am your mom.just like you Father in law is a father, I know your Dad passed, and so now Joe is your Dad!"..those words along with the guilt trip made the awkwardness.. I will definitely need my DH to help me break it to her, perhaps a nickname will be suggested to her. Thanks again, it's very interspersing to see that this is not a isolated issue that only I'm dealing with or have dealt with from the MIL
  • How about another "Mom"ish term but not Mom and Dad, exactly? Ma and Pop? There are plenty to choose from that is not "Mom" and "Dad" but still conveys the sentiment.
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