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SIL drives me crazy

so my SIL has 3 kids, she had her first at 19, second at 21, and her 3rd last year at 26. She and her H are constantly struggling to make ends meet. She got a job this fall, but is now constantly struggling to line-up child care for school vacations and half days....and often forgets that she needs child care for those days until right before she needs it. Then she calls me asking if H and I can watch the kids...I work 2 jobs, one FT one PT, H works one job 30 hours a week and is looking for other part  time work...so my answer when she asks is always "I'm sorry, but we have to work", to which she usually says "yea, I'm suppose to work too, do you have any days off you can use?". 

I'm so confused why she thinks we have some obligation to rearrange our schedule to watch her kids? 

This past time I asked if she had checked if the community center was running any vacation week camps.  she seemed offended and said "Can't afford that, don't even have money for groceries".  Doesn't school vacation happen every year? couldn't she have anticipated that she needed kid coverage or a week off work more than 2 weeks before vacation? 

H always wants to rearrange our schedules to try to bail her out, I keep telling him that if she knows we'll bail her out she'll never plan ahead for these things. am I wrong?


Me: 28 H: 30
Married 07/14/2012
TTC #1 January 2015
BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
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  • VORVOR member
    Eighth Anniversary 500 Love Its 500 Comments Name Dropper
    No, you aren't wrong. It's one thing if you really do have the free time and can help.  But rearrange schedules or even take time off?  HELL no.  That's called enabling her.   Do NOT fall into that trap.
  • and the whole "we don't even have money for groceries" thing, I saw her with a cart full of stuff at TJMaxx yesterday.
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • She conveniently forgets because you are a convenient pushover.

    Let her know it is NO the next time she calls last minute; let her fall and them figure out how to pick herself up.

    And you say NO every other successive time until she gets it that you cannot watch her kids.

    Let her find a college kid who lives locally to baby sit her kids.
  • To add to this - OP, your H needs to say no too. The fact that he somehow feels 'obligated' to help her is ridiculous. Your SIL is the one who chose to bring 3 kids into this world and therefore it is her responsibility to see that they have child care when they have off for vacations and such. Not your responsibility, not your H's - hers. And she has some nerve saying to you 'well I have to work' as if she is the only person on this planet that works. Put your foot down. Tell her no. And stick to it. And tell your H to do the same. Don't use your (most likely limited) vacation/personal time to bail her dumb ass out.
  • I hate being the mean wife, I make H say no...we haven't watched her kids once, but she still calls us...mainly because MIL tells her to call us. 

    she can't get any of the college kids to watch her kids (we live 10 minutes from a college campus, they'd be easy to find. Last time she tried to solicit a sitter for the week she told them she could pay them $20 a day....for 8-9 hour days.

    good lord. this is a family that goes on 2-3 vacations a year, dad goes "jeeping" and breaks his car on a weekly basis, both parents have new smart phones (that they replace multiple times a year). yet when they need child care, or one of the kids need some medical thing they go crying poor...of course you're poor, you throw money at trips you shouldn't afford, replace phones that aren't broken, and purposely break a car that you're going to pour money into to fix. 

    I have strong suspicions that my niece has Celiac, but SIL won't take her to get tested because it's "too expensive"...your daughter looks malnorished and it's going to be 100x more expensive to pay for bowel surgery than a simple Celaic test. 
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • You are doing that right thing and are not mean.  Not at all.  Just keep saying " No."  Kudos to you for not giving in.
  • It just irritates me that she thinks it's logical to call us and ask? MIL says we should help her out more "because that's what family does". 

    these are the days that I look forward to a big-kid sized glass of wine at the end of the day
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • I would be irritated too but I am glad you can recognize you aren't really helping her.  Not in the long term.  She needs to figure this out on her own and if that means taking time off of work and losing part of her paycheck, then so be it.  
  • Could it be that your husband is telling your MIL "We are busy but maybe next time" ?

    Maybe that is why they keep asking.  
  • Could be... he has a hard time telling MIL no to anything (then again I have a hard time telling my mom no too) 
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • Well maybe that is why ?  Could be they honestly do think you guys would watch them but are busy during the previous times they asked ?  
  • I don't think so, they know we both work during the week and that we saved our vacation for our vacation to Jamaica. It just seems so illogical..."let me ask my busy, working, SIL if she'll watch my kids for a week while they're on vacation from school, because I don't have money to pay anyone and I don't want to take time off work"
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • VORVOR member
    Eighth Anniversary 500 Love Its 500 Comments Name Dropper
    Gdaisy09 said:
    It just irritates me that she thinks it's logical to call us and ask? MIL says we should help her out more "because that's what family does". 

     

    Yeah, well, family also doesn't take advantage of each other either.  So... there's that.

     

    And a lot of whatever "discussion" is going on w/ MIL on this needs to stop.  You all don't need to defend yourselves to her.  "We're unable to help" is ALL you need to say.  Period.  If she even pries into "can't you take time off?",  you just still say "We're unable to help".  Your time off is YOURS.  THey don't get to know how much you have or how you choose to use it.

  • You know you don't have to answer the phone when she calls, right? Just let it go to voice mail and don't call her back.
    fiizzlee = vag ** fiizzle = peen ** Babies shouldn't be born wit thangs ** **They're called first luddz fo' a reason -- mo' is supposed ta come after. Yo Ass don't git a medal fo' marryin yo' prom date. Unless yo ass is imoan. I aint talkin' bout chicken n' gravy biatch. Then yo ass git a all-expenses paid cruise ta tha Mediterranean n' yo ass git ta hook up Jared Padalecki on tha flight over while bustin yo' jammies. But still no medal.
  • definitely don't answer the phone. her latest was on facebook...she posted that kids would be out of school and she needed cheep childcare for a week...then tagged H and I in the post. 

    this could have been that she thought we might know someone (don't know why), but I think it was more likely she was hoping we'd say "oh I'll do it".  she has since untagged us, but seriously?
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • ...she can't get us by phone, she posts on a public forum :/
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • Gdaisy09 said:

    ...she can't get us by phone, she posts on a public forum :/

    Some people have no shame...derp derp derp

    And btw, your MIL's lame attempt at guilting your H is bullshit. I'm all for helping family, but not taking advantage the way your SIL is trying to do.
  • Wow! Yeah, H needs to tell his mom that you two are not emergency day care and this is not what family does for one another. That is absurd!

    It would be one thing if the sitter was sick or some other unforeseen event...but for scheduled days...no way. And going in Facebook...oh lord!
  • Gdaisy09 said:
    ...she can't get us by phone, she posts on a public forum :/
    I'm speechless at this.  Wow. 
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  • Gdaisy09 said:
    ...she can't get us by phone, she posts on a public forum :/
    I'm speechless at this.  Wow. 
    She uses facebook frequently as a means to get in touch with us, it's absurd...
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • I'm also floored that she thinks she can get a babysitter for $20 a day for 3 kids! that works out to about $0.75/kid/hour for an 8 year old, a 6 year old, and a 17-month old! 

    she thought that the camp I suggested at the community center that would have cost $370 for the week, total, was too expensive! I have no idea what the going rate for a babysitter is, but I can't imagine that it's less than that. I guess when you only have $100 for child care for the week $370 is expensive...but seriously, vacation has been on the school calendar all year, plan ahead. 
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • So when is the vacation ?  HAs anyone offered to babysit for her ?  Keep us updated if you don't mind.
  • Vacation is April 14-18, as far as I know no one has offered to babysit. 
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • Gdaisy09 said:




    Gdaisy09 said:

    ...she can't get us by phone, she posts on a public forum :/

    I'm speechless at this.  Wow. 

    She uses facebook frequently as a means to get in touch with us, it's absurd...

    That is really ridiculous. She probably thinks if she publicly posts about needing a babysitter and tags you guys that you will be more inclined to do it. If it were me, I would put her on blast for that.
  • Gdaisy09 said:

    Vacation is April 14-18, as far as I know no one has offered to babysit. 

    Oh well....not your problem ;)
  • Can't MIL watch them as that is what family does for each other?
    MIL used to be her go-to sitter. MIL lives 15 minutes from H and I and 30 mins from SIL. FIL retired in february and MIL and FIL are currently driving the east coast and looking at homes in Florida (we're in New England)
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • WahooWahoo member
    Ancient Membership 2500 Comments 5 Love Its Combo Breaker

    Ignore her FB / social media posts.  Don't answer her calls. 

    Ditto the "Unfortunately, I can't help you out."  Her kids are her responsibility. 

    And if she cries poor, suggest she go to the local food pantry for groceries.

    * * *

    IMO, Family helps out, but only when you are in a true jam....not when you have not planned properly or are to cheap to pay for a sitter.

    My parents live in the next town.  They have babysat when DH and I have, for example, a funeral and we have to leave before school starts.  Otherwise, we pay for sitters, plan in advance, or stay home.  We also help them out...housesitting, trips to the airport...it is reciprocal.

    Maybe you should tell MIL that she shouldn't move...SIL needs her and it is very selfish of her to move to Florida when SIL needs someone to watch the kids.

    image "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes.
  • Oh my! I can completely relate with you on this one. Both my own sister and my SIL try and pull the same thing with me. I kept telling my own sister no and she eventually got the hint. My SIL on the other hand still hasn't gotten it and asks me to watch her kids almost every weekend. I work full time during the day, Mon-Fri, and I also teach fitness classes at night and on the weekends. Ummm...when do I have time to watch your kids?! Plain and simple...it's not your problem to deal with. Don't let her make you feel guilty for her lack of planning. As the saying goes: "Your lack of planning does not constitute an emergency on my part." It's very selfish of her to expect you and your H to drop everything (and to use your vacation time) to watch her kids. You didn't choose to have those kids, she did. She needs to figure it out. I agree with Wahoo, family helps out, but only when it's an emergency, not because of someone's lack of planning or being too cheap to pay a sitter.
  • It's mostly her being too cheap to pay a sitter. she asked us to use vacation time the day of her scheduled c-section (as a public health professional I have a whole other set of issues with that), not so we could meet our new niece, but so we could cart the other two kids too and from school/activities. If you're scheduling the c-section so the birth is convenient for you, why not schedule it so you can drop your kids at school and H can pick-them up after?
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
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