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Talk to Me About Fencing

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Re: Talk to Me About Fencing

  • noffgurl said:

    I must be some kind of backwoods hick to all of y'all lol.
    :-S



    Oh, please!  I only wish I was so handy :).

    I have a fairly large yard with wooden fencing all the way around it.  A couple feet on one side never gets sunlight at all because there are neighbor trees shading it.  But the rest of the yard is in full sunlight all day.  If anything, it has too much light.  I don't feel my wood fencing subtracts from the light at all.  Also, I guess the wood is rustic/natural.  I don't think it has any stain on it.  I know I have never stained it.  It's old and not that pretty, but is in good condition and functional for being (I'm guessing) over 20 years old. 

    Yep, that looks like ours.  Honestly, I think many people in the south just don't bother to paint/stain wood fences - there's not really a point because the sun bleaches it out so quickly.  I like the looks of grey/bleached wood a lot.  When we replace a few of our slats I'm going to try to salvage what we tear out for other projects.  Who knows what they will be good for, but I like the color.

    I've looked at that deck paint at HD before and wondered how that would wear...
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  • abrewer5 said:

    I wonder if you could do wood and then put a thick out door paint on it to keep it low maintenence.

    Home Depot and I believe Rustoleum have a paint called "Deck Over" that is supposed to last 10 years before you have to paint again. It might be worth it check out. The paint is kind of expensive, but it might still be cheaper than doing composite.

    PS: When I initially saw the title of your post I thought you meant fencing the sport, not the home improvement project... It's been a long week. :)

    I don't really have much to add because I have 0 experience with fencing. Our old HOA required use of a certain style of wood fence so that everything matched, and they took care of all of that for us. I do think PPs brought up so great points though.

    I do want to jump in and say that I do not recommend using Behr's Deckover product. At All. If I could go back in time and prevent myself from buying it I would. When we moved into our house last summer one of the first things I did was re-paint the deck and thought this product sounded great. I followed all of the directions to the letter, spent hundreds of dollars on the paint, plus the the recommended products to prep the deck, plus the time spent sanding and painting 500+sq ft of deck and already within a year the stuff is peeling off in areas.

    I actually contacted Behr a few weeks ago about it and they said the only thing to do is to re-sand the entire deck. They did offer to send me some deck cleaner to help with the process but it still doesn't change the fact that I have to re-do the entire thing. I just want to save anyone from going through this annoying process!
  • @Traveljunkie, it might be faster to just remove the nails and flip the boards.  My parents did that to their deck when they were looking at having to replace it.... cost them almost nothing, and it took my dad about a day to do.  

    It's probably harder work than sanding though.
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  • abrewer5 said:

    I wonder if you could do wood and then put a thick out door paint on it to keep it low maintenence.

    Home Depot and I believe Rustoleum have a paint called "Deck Over" that is supposed to last 10 years before you have to paint again. It might be worth it check out. The paint is kind of expensive, but it might still be cheaper than doing composite.

    PS: When I initially saw the title of your post I thought you meant fencing the sport, not the home improvement project... It's been a long week. :)

    This is what I thought too LOL!
  • noffgurl said:

    I must be some kind of backwoods hick to all of y'all lol.
    :-S

    No, I'm jealous of your handy skills! Thanks for the advice. I'll broach it to H.
  • noffgurl said:

    I must be some kind of backwoods hick to all of y'all lol.
    :-S

    No, I'm jealous of your handy skills! Thanks for the advice. I'll broach it to H.
    from the company installing the chain link at the dog park, they said the hard part is stretching the chainlink...if you're doing wood I think DIY is possible, perhaps with really nice friends and a case or two of beer :) 

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  • Total Lurker here adding to this conversation.. what about a wooden split rail fence? That's what I have at my house, We have 3 rails and then we have a chicken wire the bottom two rails, so our dog cannot escape. Looks nice and lets all the light in.. But I also live in the country, so it is common here to have a split rail. We moved into our house last year and fenced in part of our back yard. My husband did the work himself and costs us about $1,000
  • Not a fan of 6 foot fences unless there is a real eye sore that needs to be hidden.

    A cedar fence can be absoutely beautiful, but cedar is  more $$ than other wood options.

    Have you considered planting a nice maple, oak or other larger tree in the back yard as well?
  • Sisugal said:

    Not a fan of 6 foot fences unless there is a real eye sore that needs to be hidden.

    A cedar fence can be absoutely beautiful, but cedar is  more $$ than other wood options.

    Have you considered planting a nice maple, oak or other larger tree in the back yard as well?

    Yes! There is actually a big, healthy Norway Maple just to the right of the second picture.

    We both have landscaping components to our jobs (I work with rain gardens and H is a licensed arborist) so we have lots of favorite plants and ideas of what we'd like to incorporate. A lot of our front yard plants are dead or dying from the previous owner and we'll be replacing them in May or June. I love landscaping that incorporates native New England plants while still looking nice and neat. We both love shadbush and various dogwoods and may add one of those on the front side of the fenced area (not in a picture) as well. There is lots of digging in our future, but I'm excited for it.
  • H and I fell into a bit of a fencing rabbit hole last night and reevaluated a lot of things. The heavy objection to chain link from most of you did sink in. At the same time, I checked out the wood fences in my neighborhood on my run and found they all looked pretty crappy. I don't mind unfinished, but they were all very warped.

    Meanwhile, H found aluminum pool-type fencing as an option. It seems to be dog-safe (there are narrower spacing options for small dogs), looks nice, and is comparable to wood in price. He is also trying to sell me on a 5' fence to save money, but I'm not entirely convinced. We're going to go to Home Depot soon to talk to someone in person, and then may get estimates from some other contractors.

    Thanks again for all of the help and feedback! I'll keep you all posted if we go forward with the project.
  • abrewer5 said:

    I wonder if you could do wood and then put a thick out door paint on it to keep it low maintenence.

    Home Depot and I believe Rustoleum have a paint called "Deck Over" that is supposed to last 10 years before you have to paint again. It might be worth it check out. The paint is kind of expensive, but it might still be cheaper than doing composite.

    PS: When I initially saw the title of your post I thought you meant fencing the sport, not the home improvement project... It's been a long week. :)



    I don't really have much to add because I have 0 experience with fencing. Our old HOA required use of a certain style of wood fence so that everything matched, and they took care of all of that for us. I do think PPs brought up so great points though.

    I do want to jump in and say that I do not recommend using Behr's Deckover product. At All. If I could go back in time and prevent myself from buying it I would. When we moved into our house last summer one of the first things I did was re-paint the deck and thought this product sounded great. I followed all of the directions to the letter, spent hundreds of dollars on the paint, plus the the recommended products to prep the deck, plus the time spent sanding and painting 500+sq ft of deck and already within a year the stuff is peeling off in areas.

    I actually contacted Behr a few weeks ago about it and they said the only thing to do is to re-sand the entire deck. They did offer to send me some deck cleaner to help with the process but it still doesn't change the fact that I have to re-do the entire thing. I just want to save anyone from going through this annoying process!

    Yikes... This has me a little scared. H and I bought deck over to re-do our 20x23 deck that is currently fire engine red... Now I'm wondering if we should apply it at all. :/
  • Sounds like a lovely plan.  Be sure to take before and after photos for everyone to enjoy!
  • mills0515 said:

    Total Lurker here adding to this conversation.. what about a wooden split rail fence? That's what I have at my house, We have 3 rails and then we have a chicken wire the bottom two rails, so our dog cannot escape. Looks nice and lets all the light in.. But I also live in the country, so it is common here to have a split rail. We moved into our house last year and fenced in part of our back yard. My husband did the work himself and costs us about $1,000

    Just noticed this one-I LOVE the look, but we'd have to chicken wire the whole thing to keep our dog in and I think a lot of the character would be lost.

    I may seriously examine self-installation, but removal of the old fence is also a factor. I'm also not sure if a project this big is where we should start our journey to handiness. I wish so badly my FIL lived locally! He's so good at this stuff. Maybe flying him up here would be cheaper than installation, as well as a fun visit...
  • abrewer5 said:

    abrewer5 said:

    I wonder if you could do wood and then put a thick out door paint on it to keep it low maintenence.

    Home Depot and I believe Rustoleum have a paint called "Deck Over" that is supposed to last 10 years before you have to paint again. It might be worth it check out. The paint is kind of expensive, but it might still be cheaper than doing composite.

    PS: When I initially saw the title of your post I thought you meant fencing the sport, not the home improvement project... It's been a long week. :)



    I don't really have much to add because I have 0 experience with fencing. Our old HOA required use of a certain style of wood fence so that everything matched, and they took care of all of that for us. I do think PPs brought up so great points though.

    I do want to jump in and say that I do not recommend using Behr's Deckover product. At All. If I could go back in time and prevent myself from buying it I would. When we moved into our house last summer one of the first things I did was re-paint the deck and thought this product sounded great. I followed all of the directions to the letter, spent hundreds of dollars on the paint, plus the the recommended products to prep the deck, plus the time spent sanding and painting 500+sq ft of deck and already within a year the stuff is peeling off in areas.

    I actually contacted Behr a few weeks ago about it and they said the only thing to do is to re-sand the entire deck. They did offer to send me some deck cleaner to help with the process but it still doesn't change the fact that I have to re-do the entire thing. I just want to save anyone from going through this annoying process!

    Yikes... This has me a little scared. H and I bought deck over to re-do our 20x23 deck that is currently fire engine red... Now I'm wondering if we should apply it at all. :/
     

    Yeah, I was super unhappy with the way it looked after just a few months. I started looking at reviews online and a lot of people had the same experience as I did. There were some people that had good results, but a lot were in the same boat as me. I'd look and see if Home Depot (or wherever you bought it) would let you return/exchange it. I'd hate for you to have a bad outcome like we did.

    @hoffse, I may have to look into flipping the boards. Definitely something to consider at least!
  • abrewer5 said:

    abrewer5 said:

    I wonder if you could do wood and then put a thick out door paint on it to keep it low maintenence.

    Home Depot and I believe Rustoleum have a paint called "Deck Over" that is supposed to last 10 years before you have to paint again. It might be worth it check out. The paint is kind of expensive, but it might still be cheaper than doing composite.

    PS: When I initially saw the title of your post I thought you meant fencing the sport, not the home improvement project... It's been a long week. :)



    I don't really have much to add because I have 0 experience with fencing. Our old HOA required use of a certain style of wood fence so that everything matched, and they took care of all of that for us. I do think PPs brought up so great points though.

    I do want to jump in and say that I do not recommend using Behr's Deckover product. At All. If I could go back in time and prevent myself from buying it I would. When we moved into our house last summer one of the first things I did was re-paint the deck and thought this product sounded great. I followed all of the directions to the letter, spent hundreds of dollars on the paint, plus the the recommended products to prep the deck, plus the time spent sanding and painting 500+sq ft of deck and already within a year the stuff is peeling off in areas.

    I actually contacted Behr a few weeks ago about it and they said the only thing to do is to re-sand the entire deck. They did offer to send me some deck cleaner to help with the process but it still doesn't change the fact that I have to re-do the entire thing. I just want to save anyone from going through this annoying process!

    Yikes... This has me a little scared. H and I bought deck over to re-do our 20x23 deck that is currently fire engine red... Now I'm wondering if we should apply it at all. :/
     

    Yeah, I was super unhappy with the way it looked after just a few months. I started looking at reviews online and a lot of people had the same experience as I did. There were some people that had good results, but a lot were in the same boat as me. I'd look and see if Home Depot (or wherever you bought it) would let you return/exchange it. I'd hate for you to have a bad outcome like we did.

    @hoffse, I may have to look into flipping the boards. Definitely something to consider at least!
    Thanks for the heads up, I really appreciate it! I looked at the reviews and saw the same complaints. I'll have to talk to H about it tonight. We really have no choice but to do SOMETHING, our deck is in pretty bad shape and was painted by the last owners, so I assume we'll be painting it again. We'll figure something out. :) Glad I posted something about it here!
  • abrewer5 said:

    abrewer5 said:

    abrewer5 said:

    I wonder if you could do wood and then put a thick out door paint on it to keep it low maintenence.

    Home Depot and I believe Rustoleum have a paint called "Deck Over" that is supposed to last 10 years before you have to paint again. It might be worth it check out. The paint is kind of expensive, but it might still be cheaper than doing composite.

    PS: When I initially saw the title of your post I thought you meant fencing the sport, not the home improvement project... It's been a long week. :)



    I don't really have much to add because I have 0 experience with fencing. Our old HOA required use of a certain style of wood fence so that everything matched, and they took care of all of that for us. I do think PPs brought up so great points though.

    I do want to jump in and say that I do not recommend using Behr's Deckover product. At All. If I could go back in time and prevent myself from buying it I would. When we moved into our house last summer one of the first things I did was re-paint the deck and thought this product sounded great. I followed all of the directions to the letter, spent hundreds of dollars on the paint, plus the the recommended products to prep the deck, plus the time spent sanding and painting 500+sq ft of deck and already within a year the stuff is peeling off in areas.

    I actually contacted Behr a few weeks ago about it and they said the only thing to do is to re-sand the entire deck. They did offer to send me some deck cleaner to help with the process but it still doesn't change the fact that I have to re-do the entire thing. I just want to save anyone from going through this annoying process!

    Yikes... This has me a little scared. H and I bought deck over to re-do our 20x23 deck that is currently fire engine red... Now I'm wondering if we should apply it at all. :/
     

    Yeah, I was super unhappy with the way it looked after just a few months. I started looking at reviews online and a lot of people had the same experience as I did. There were some people that had good results, but a lot were in the same boat as me. I'd look and see if Home Depot (or wherever you bought it) would let you return/exchange it. I'd hate for you to have a bad outcome like we did.

    @hoffse, I may have to look into flipping the boards. Definitely something to consider at least!
    Thanks for the heads up, I really appreciate it! I looked at the reviews and saw the same complaints. I'll have to talk to H about it tonight. We really have no choice but to do SOMETHING, our deck is in pretty bad shape and was painted by the last owners, so I assume we'll be painting it again. We'll figure something out. :) Glad I posted something about it here!
    You might want to try flipping the boards too :)

    If they've rotted out underneath it won't work.  But if there's airflow on the underside of the deck, they'll probably be in pretty good shape.  When my parents did this, they basically got a brand new deck for the cost of a few boxes of nails.
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  • H had a friend volunteer to help us install! It'll be a few months unless our tax guy does miracles, but I'll do a before/during/after post when we do it. So excited!
  • hoffse said:

    noffgurl said:

    I must be some kind of backwoods hick to all of y'all lol.
    :-S



    Oh, please!  I only wish I was so handy :).

    I have a fairly large yard with wooden fencing all the way around it.  A couple feet on one side never gets sunlight at all because there are neighbor trees shading it.  But the rest of the yard is in full sunlight all day.  If anything, it has too much light.  I don't feel my wood fencing subtracts from the light at all.  Also, I guess the wood is rustic/natural.  I don't think it has any stain on it.  I know I have never stained it.  It's old and not that pretty, but is in good condition and functional for being (I'm guessing) over 20 years old. 

    Yep, that looks like ours.  Honestly, I think many people in the south just don't bother to paint/stain wood fences - there's not really a point because the sun bleaches it out so quickly.  I like the looks of grey/bleached wood a lot.  When we replace a few of our slats I'm going to try to salvage what we tear out for other projects.  Who knows what they will be good for, but I like the color.

    I've looked at that deck paint at HD before and wondered how that would wear...



    Good point!  The sun is brutal.

    I'm using a Thompson's product for our deck...I forget the exact name and I think the color is Acorn.  But I'll find out and post it.

    We have a seating area for our fire pit that we stained the same color with the same Thompson's product over a year ago.  The stain still looks just as bright and dark as when we did it.  That seating is in full sunlight all day, no shade anywhere near it.  

  • @ElizabethSagarminaga advertising is not allowed, and I wasn't looking for security fencing. Plus, our tax bill has killed this dream for the foreseeable future.
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