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Mortgage Refinance: Is it worth it?

bmo88bmo88 member
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edited August 2015 in Money Matters
DH and I are considering refinancing, but aren't sure yet. Here's our situation:

Original Home Purchase: $268,000
Down Payment: $26,800 (10%)

To avoid PMI and get better interest rates, we chose an 80/10/10 loan set up:
1st Mortgage: $214,400 @ 4.37%
2nd Mortgage: $26,800 @ 5.99% Interest Only

Currently, we pay a total of $1,385 a month toward the first mortgage (minimum payment plus an additional $25). The minimum on our 2nd mortgage is $105 to cover the interest, but we pay an additional $500 toward principal to pay it down quickly. So we are paying $2,010 a month toward our mortgage ($545 above minimums).

We just bought our home last year, however, we are considering refinancing for a few reasons:

Pros:
  • Our housing area has appreciated greatly. We have not done an appraisal yet, but many homes are appraising about 8-10% higher than last year.
  • We are considering a 15 year mortgage because we can get a rate of 2.9%-3.1%
  • It would save us over $130,000 in interest over the life of the loan
Cons:
  • It would cost $4,500 to close on the new mortgage.
  • Our new minimum monthly mortgage would be $1,900. Less than what we pay now, but doesn't give us the flexibility to go down to $1,500 if we needed to for some reason.
  • We would need to ensure our home appraises at least $290,000 to avoid paying PMI and capitalize on the equity gain.
Have any of you considered or completed a refinance? What are your thoughts?


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Re: Mortgage Refinance: Is it worth it?

  • als1982als1982 member
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    edited August 2015
    How long do you plan to stay in this home? Have you crunched the numbers based on that? We looked into refinancing two years ago (at which time I had already lived here for four), and it would have taken five years in order to break even. A lot can happen in five years, so we passed on it. At this point, we are still planning on staying for those five years, but it's very possible in that time we'll just go ahead and pay off the mortgage.

    Also, what is the interest rate difference between a 15 and 30 year loan? I personally really like that our mortgage payment is very easily affordable on just one of our incomes. Right now, we're focused on student loans, but I'll still ocassionally put a few extra dollars towards the principle, and when we have all of our student loans paid off we'll start channeling our money there, but in the meantime it's nice to have the breathing room.

    And lastly, I could be wrong, but I'm not sure if the interest only 5.99% loan is really saving you much, even with the extra $500 you're putting towards it a month. Did you look at paying PMI upfront? It may have been a better deal.
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  • als1982 said:
    How long do you plan to stay in this home? Have you crunched the numbers based on that? We looked into refinancing two years ago (at which time I had already lived here for four), and it would have taken five years in order to break even. A lot can happen in five years, so we passed on it. At this point, we are still planning on staying for those five years, but it's very possible in that time we'll just go ahead and pay off the mortgage. Also, what is the interest rate difference between a 15 and 30 year loan? I personally really like that our mortgage payment is very easily affordable on just one of our incomes. Right now, we're focused on student loans, but I'll still ocassionally put a few extra dollars towards the principle, and when we have all of our student loans paid off we'll start channeling our money there, but in the meantime it's nice to have the breathing room. And lastly, I could be wrong, but I'm not sure if the interest only 5.99% loan is really saving you much, even with the extra $500 you're putting towards it a month. Did you look at paying PMI upfront? It may have been a better deal.
    Thanks for the response. We are undecided on how long we will live here, which doesn't help. I have a 3 year contract with my current employer (and a $10,000 penalty for breaking it), so we will definitely stay at least that long. It's likely we will stay longer, but can't be certain. 

    The interest rate to refinance for 15 year is 2.9-3.1% compared to 4% for 30 year. We currently have 4.37%, so it doesn't make a ton of sense to refinance another 30 year. 

    With the 5.99% interest only loan, we do save a ton of money compared to PMI because we are paying it off in 3 years at our current rate. So we will pay about $3,000 in interest on the loan, compared to monthly PMI which would have been about $7,000. We ran the calculations with our mortgage lender a few different ways and aggressive pay off an interest only loan came out better. Plus, the loan is like a home equity line of credit that we could use for home improvements (like basement remodel) if necessary.
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  • First I wouldn't do anything until you decide how long you want to stay in the house.

    If you refinance, only do so if you will be in the house long enough to recoup the refinancing closing costs by having the lower payments (don't take into account any extra you are paying).  Be sure to find that break even point, you might  be surprised...

    I love the idea of a 15 year mortgage, but only if you can still afford the payment with a large cushion with your income.  I would love a 15 year loan, but we would not be able to afford the payment if one of us lost our job (like I did recently) or another emergency happened to take a lot of your cash away.  

    A more conservative plan would be to refinance to a 30 year mortgage (assuming you will stay in the house long enough for a refi to make sense) and then make payments as if it were a 15-year loan.  If something happens and you need to trim you budget you can start making a "normal" payment without risking foreclosure.
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  • You are going to be saving roughly 3k a year in interest by refinancing (assuming 240k at 4.37% to 240 at 3%) - so even if  you did only stay for 3 years then thats a 9k savings for a 4500 expense. ... 

    So i would do it under 2 conditions - you are paying CASH for the closing costs (don't roll it into the loan) and you are going to either continue paying that 500/month extra on the mortgage (or another debt) or invest it... i also wouldn't do it if you have to pay pmi. 

    If your just doing this so you think you did something and then you go from paying 2k to 1500 a month and spend the rest on vacations - then it was a waste of money. 
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