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I personally don't believe in getting flu shots and won't give my kids one either. My H's aunt just actually got?pleurisy as a side effect of the regular flu shot. I tend to avoid meds and injections as much as I can in general though.
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For healthcare professionals I think it's a great idea to get a flu shot / H1N1 vaccine, but for me, you'd literally have to tackle me and put me in jail before I agreed to one.
Like a PP said, there's way too many unknowns, and granted, I am sure I put a lot of bad stuff into my body already, I am all set with the vacine.
An interresting article on Masschusetts. We are the only state that has a bill in our senate that will allow use of force to control the flu. It's absolutely ridiculous.
http://www.infowars.com/swine-flu-martial-law-bill-clears-massachusetts-senate/
Very interesting Shag. Don't know what to think about that.
Dandy-I didn't know you worked in a hospital. I might think differently if I was in a hospital all day. You just never know what skeevie things jump on you there!?
I know people feel really strongly about this.
So strange-my mom is a RN (though hasn't worked in 30 years), my best friend is a nurse practitioner (works in private practice), my aunt is a cardiologist and my uncle is a professor and doctor with 7 specialities (overachiever). All 4 of them advise against the flu shot.
Exactly the point, Dandy. I think only 28 ppl have died in this state from H1N1, and something like half of them had some underlying illness before getting the flu which made it worse.
There's absolutely no reason for what Mass is doing. I really don't think its ever going to come down to that, but the fact that they could do something like that makes me hate living in this state more than I already do.
There is so much talk going on these days about the regular flu and H1N1. I am with angel - I don't get the regular flu shot and do not plan on getting the H1N1. I am also a health care provider for children birth-3, some of whom are quite medically fragile.
So this stirs quite the debate for me internally. I personally am about being as natural as I can be. I don't agree with many vaccines, though do agree some are necessary (measles, mumps, etc). I have never gotten the flu shot and do not like to put unnecessary things inside my body. I take many precautions - and even go above and beyond to keep myself clean and protect those that I work with (ie: my last family today has the flu going through their house and I immediately came home, changed, threw my clothes in the wash, and took a shower, just to name a few).
But I struggle every day with the fact that I work with kids that are unstable. I feel guilty for not vaccinating myself, but I do not want to put that crap into my body, especially because I haven't had kids yet, and plan on doing so.
So I guess that is my input - it is a struggle I face but I really am trying to stick with taking all precautions aside from getting vaccinated. There are many reasons as to why I don't want to get vaccinated, but I don't feel like writing them all out!!! Good topic Jess!!
Most of my students and at least one of my grad classmates have confirmed diagnoses of H1N1. So, basically, I'm screwed :P
I didn't read the link, but all science aside, I hate needles and avoid them at all costs.
exactly this. i've never had a flu shot, and am not big on medicine....
I am with the opinion that fmailies need to make informed decisions based on their own research and what is best for their family as a whole. I think that too many people just take what the media says and they don't look at both the good and bad about H1N1 or seasonal flu.
That being said, DH and I will not get either the seasonal or H1N1 vaccines, nor will our children. We believe in being as natural as we can and have taken precautions (extra vitamins C and D, extra hand washing, etc.). I work in an office where sick people are in and out all day so therefore like barbnsteve I tend to come home change clothes, take a shower, and wash clothes. DH works for the borough we live in and is around all sort of disgusting stuff everyday and does the same thing as I do. All three of the kids are in school so you know there are all sort of things flying around but I feel that the cons aren't worth the risk of vaccinating them.
My own personal standpoint (as an elementary teacher) is that I take all the precautions I can to avoid getting sick - naturally. I wash my hands multiple times a day, use hand sanitizer, take vitamins - and so far so good! Last year I did not do this and I was out over 15 days due to illness.
That being said, I went for a physical today and my doctor stressed that I get a flu shot & H1N1 shot - he STRONGLY recommended it. I will not be getting it. I am choosing not to. I feel that I need to build up my immune system on my own, especially being a teacher.
There are pros and cons to everything - different strokes for different folks, all that good stuff. It's like the whole debate of vaccinations causing autism - there's strong evidence for it, and strong evidence against it. You can find evidence and research to support any standpoint you want to take on ANY topic. It's all in how you choose to react and respond.
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I'm not getting flu shots of any kind because I never do, not because I'm some super crusader for naturalism. I'm not afraid of needles at all, I get weekly allergy shots, I just never got flu shots growing up, and I never get them now. I take care of my health but I am also, as my mom likes to say, from strong peasant stock and we just don't get sick (my mom says "strong like bull" in this awesome Russian accent).
Now, if you want to start a fight, let's talk about vaccines. I would like to address that there is no evidence linking them to autism. I'm sorry, but it's just not true. There was one study, once, but he was completely discredited by every agency and he, himself, basically "took it back." Then they took out the chemical that people thought was "dirty" and causing autism in the early 2000s and the prevalence of autism did not go down. If that chemical was causing it, why not? Jenny McCarthy "cured" her son by feeding him natural foods. Sorry, honey, if he's cured, it wasn't autism.
If you don't want to give your kids tons of shots at once, fine, don't, spread it out over months and years. If you don't want your kids getting vaccinated at all, at least please base that on real science and not bogus craap. But my kids will be getting vaccinated. No one needs scarlet fever and polio coming around again.
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This.
Ditto... I absolutely agree... the vaccines that have been around for years have been tested millions of times and have been found to be safe. I see no argument for not vaccinating your kids with these. H1N1 only scares me because its so new and untested and like Kellybeth said, the flu mutates every year so you're only protected for this 1 year (I think its 6 months for the vaccine) so I really dont see the point.
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See now this is where I have to jump in and ask if they are so "safe" then why are more and more kids getting diagnosed with autism, ADHD, allergies, and asthma? There are all sorts of places to find the ingredients to the vaccines that are given to kids. Check out: http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html where you can see a list of what are put into vaccines.
Again I think that families need to make the choice that is best for their family but they should be informed choices that take in both sides. For example, the chicken pox vaccine: who on here received that as a child? I got the chickenpox not the vaccine. The vaccine is estimated to give from five to ten years worth of temporary immunity and there is a fear among some researchers that mass vaccination will drive the disease out of the childhood population into the adult population where it is much more deadly. Because of this I would rather my children get the chickenpox than the vaccine.
Kellybeth is right about the flu vaccines. Do you know if the strain that is from this year is what is in that shot? No because most times when the vaccine is made they don't know what strain the flu is going to be for that year.
How exactly does that list prove that an increase in autism, ADHD allergies, and asthma is due to vaccinations?
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/75333.php
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness/vaccine_induced_autoimmunity.html
http://www.know-vaccines.org/autism.html
JessnJason, you know that as years pass, technology develops, and overall knowledge about illnesses / disorders, and diseases increase, right? I am just about positive that 30 years ago there were just as many kids with autism, ADHD and whatever else kids have nowadays, except that 30 years ago they just diagnosed the kids as slow, or different because they didn't know what the shitt was wrong with them.
You're comparing apples to oranges here. You can't honestly say that that 30 years ago they had the knowledge that they do now about disorders such as autism. If they had the ability to go back and examine all the kids they thought were 'different' 30 years ago (that were getting the same vaccines we get now (polio, measles, mumps, etc), I think this whole 'vaccines cause the prevalance of autism, bs' would be a completely different story.