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Conservatives come in! (if there are any on here)
I'm SO happy after last night. Palin was set up as the driveling idiot who would be steamrolled by Biden's superior intellect, and she not only held her own she beat him at his own game. It was awesome to watch.
I'm not a fan of the populist rhetoric. at. all. To be blunt, I hate it. But that's a tried and true liberal strategy and Palin does it better than Biden and Obama put together. After the first debate the focus group people were attracted to Obama's populism. I think the right's strategy was for Palin to score points for her ticket in that area, and she succeeded.
Where she most succeeded though (this is just a prediction) is that she reinvigorated her campaign, maybe even saved it from extinction. I think the base will be excited again and the momentum will shift if McCain can keep it up. He needs to explain the economy better and that is what will make or break him (IMO). But at least the excitement for his ticket is back.
I think Washington needs an economist, now more than ever, but that's not an option this election so I've decided to suck it up and vote for McCain.
Re: Conservatives come in! (if there are any on here)
Yay!
Last night was the Palin I hoped for and expected. Very happy.
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I was very, very worried going into last night, and was pleasantly surprised by her performance. ?She didn't come across as smart or deep on the issues, but she wasn't embarassing.
Now hopefully she can stop being the headline and we can talk about things that actually matter, like how an Obama-Biden administration would allow bankruptcy judges to re-write not just interest terms but also mortgage principal. ?Wow. ?Just wow.
Deductive reasoning isn't a conservative or liberal attribute. ~epphd
I agree that Palin did so much better than expected and it was a good move by the MPC. However, McCain really needs to focus on the economy and make a clear statement about his stance and how he will adjust his proposed policies to account for it.
Unfortunately, I have made up my mind and suck it up with Obama the same way you feel with McCain. Sorry caden.
I was not at all worried - I am very optimistic this election. I really really believed deep down that she would do at worst fine and at best fan freakin tastic in the debate - regardless of the pundits and MSM (couric notwithstanding). And Im glad to see I was right.
She has great charisma, and I think she connected well with the viewer. She contrasts very well with Biden.
She makes me optimistic for the ticket and I am still excited to vote for (McCain) PALIN
I was very happy with her last night. And I was worried going in.
FYI: Everyone in my office was talking about it this morning, and everyone was saying what a great job she did, even the liberals! The majority of us are conservatives (accountants) but there are a few liberals here too.
Don't worry Marquis, she wouldn't have been able to sway hard-core lefties anyway. Did you watch the focus groups after the debate? They loved her.
I'm not a conservative, but I thought she did well. She came off as very likeable, and I'd be predisposed to dislike her. Much friendlier than at the RNC.
My DH, a lifelong Republican who decided not to vote the McCain ticket since Palin was added (in favor of whom I don't know), also watched the debate and thought she definitely beat expectations and was great on delivery but wasn't overly impressed on substance. It wasn't enough to make him reconsider his decision.
Oh and Frank Luntz's focus group picked Obama as the winner of the first debate, by a slim margin. Last night it was a landslide victory for Palin.
The focus group was of undecided voters evenly split between people who voted for Kerry and people who voted for Bush.
I am not happy with my choice but I have just a tad (I mean, the minutest) amount more confidence in Obama and his team of economists. The "fair" wealth redistribution comment was shocking to me but Biden has repeated he will stand by and support whatever Obama will do. I believe that Obama is willing to put all of his proposed policies (social, healthcare, etc), to help address the fiscal issues. Again, my faith is only just a smidge more in Obama over McCain.
Has McCain made a statement that he is willing to revisit his policies in light of this financial crisis? I know Obama said he will have to push back some of his proposals. At this point, IMO I feel it is a given that both candidates will have to raise taxes to account for the deficit. There is not enough budget cuts to be able to make up for everything our government has to pay for.
Nah, I passed out exhausted from a long day of work + sleepy from the 3 glasses of wine I had (lightweight).
Thanks for butting in and trying to demean our excitement. I'll remember this the next time Obama's one note song (McCain = Bush) gets played.
Sorry caden!
Well, I disagree with practically all of Obama's economic policies. I haven't heard one single policy that even remotely resembles small gov't fiscal conservatism. Toning down his disastrous policies isn't as good as not having them in the first place.
McCain said he would holding spending to its current level. In Washington no growth = a cut. It's not the best we can do but at least it's not billions extra. I'm taking what I can get.
Speaking of scripted talking points, I think we need a drinking game whenever Obama/Biden (well now just Obama) mentions Bush.
Bush's policies are disastrous. Bush caused this meltdown. Bush makes everyone hate us. Look there's a cat with a piece of bacon taped to it! Bush's economy is the worst since the Great Depression. Bush made us less safe. and on and on we go.
I can't wait to go to the polls and vote against Bush.
Bah!
Is there more to the joke or is it just an example of their diversionary tactics? Either way, ::giggle::
Looking to the past to fix the future is not a diversion.
It's not they aren't "allowed" to talk about it, it's that that's their answer to every question. Whatever the problem is just blame Bush. Shampoo. Rinse. Repeat. It's close to becoming a non-sequitur.
Why is there a cat with bacon?!?
It's really cute!
I hate to admit it and feel like this should be in a confession post, but I thought it was a little rough. I am relieved that so many people whom I respect thought she did well, though it makes me feel as though I have absolutely no political intuition.
Part of my problem may be that I can't look at her without seeing Tina Fey.
I had no doubt that Palin would do well last night, and I posted that ad nauseum on this and the E08 board. Everyone underestimated her and you had to be an ostrich not to see this coming.
I do not like Palin (she is the reason I'm seriously considering defecting from McCain, whom I love) and her performance last night really grated on me. The winks, the "you betchas," the colloquialisms were just too much and frankly, embarrassing to watch coming from a woman. Please talk to me like a professional who may become leader of the free world, not like you are trying to become president of the PTA.
She proved she is good at memorizing facts and delivering them on cue, but she did not inspire in me any confidence that she actually has the ability to get the job done without a great deal of prep. I think if she had behaved more professionally, I would have more confidence in her. For now, she continues to seem like someone who accidentally stumbled into this situation.
Haha, ditto elena! I kept saying to DH, "Is it true that when cornered, you become increasingly adorable?"
In all fairness, she did do better than expected. I'm still not overly impressed, but she seems educable.
Interesting, her 2 state solution idea. I didn't know that was McCain's platform...