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this post is surprising

http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/39458716.aspx
Granted I'm not sure what these posters all do for a living, but I'm surprised at how relatively low these are.
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  • Geez. Even in the nonprofit field I made more than most of those salaries when I worked FT. Makes my pt job look even more cushy.
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  • Wow.. I'm really surprised at all the under 30k's. I don't make a lot but I make more than many of the posters on the first page... and I don't work full time.
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  • I'm puzzled at the random declaration that people under 28 can't know how to behave on a business trip?  

    First, excuse me? I am more than able to handle myself on a business trip.  I'm pretty sure I present to folks from the pentagon on a regular basis, thanks. 

    Second, I have a few coworkers that have been in the job for 25+ years who can't be trusted to speak to customers or represent our group in any way.  It's not about age.  Some people have common sense and self awareness, some don't. 

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  • imagewendyld:

    I'm puzzled at the random declaration that people under 28 can't know how to behave on a business trip?  

    Yes. I am over 28, but have been on business trips since I was 24. Sometimes I was the only one who was behaved. 

    Those are pretty low as well. But the teacher who makes 35 an hour - my old roomie is a gym teacher in NY and makes 70k a year. Madness.

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    imagewendyld:

    I'm puzzled at the random declaration that people under 28 can't know how to behave on a business trip?  

    Yes. I am over 28, but have been on business trips since I was 24. Sometimes I was the only one who was behaved. 

    Those are pretty low as well. But the teacher who makes 35 an hour - my old roomie is a gym teacher in NY and makes 70k a year. Madness.

    Oh no, you have to read the teacher's follow-up.  She basically said that's her salary translated into actual hours worked, not an an hrly wage that translates into an annual salary with 2080 hrs/yr. 

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  • I've always hated the secrecy regarding money.  I like to know how much people make or spend on things.  It helps me compare and contrast my own spending habits.

    I make around $41-$42k.

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  • Working FT for less than 30k would make me cry, unless it was as a cheesecake taste tester or something.
  • imageCaliopeSpidrman:

    I've always hated the secrecy regarding money.  I like to know how much people make or spend on things.  It helps me compare and contrast my own spending habits.

    I get the secrecy.   I feel guilty telling someone I make much more than them and don't like hearing that they make significantly more than me either.  

    On a more general note, I think a lot of employees would argue for equal pay (even if their performance isn't equal) based on time, title, etc. when it isn't always warranted. 

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  • imageAlmondWhittle:
    Working FT for less than 30k would make me cry, unless it was as a cheesecake taste tester or something.

    When my mom died, my little brother's father showed up to petition for custody.  He stood in the courtroom and proudly told the judge that he made 18-19k/yr and could therefore support himself and David.  I gasped, loudly. 

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  • imagewendyld:

    I'm puzzled at the random declaration that people under 28 can't know how to behave on a business trip?  

    First, excuse me? I am more than able to handle myself on a business trip.  I'm pretty sure I present to folks from the pentagon on a regular basis, thanks. 

    Second, I have a few coworkers that have been in the job for 25+ years who can't be trusted to speak to customers or represent our group in any way.  It's not about age.  Some people have common sense and self awareness, some don't. 

    Agreed. Most of my whole job from 22-25 was taking business trips and I handled myself just fine, thanks.

  • Not quite a business trip, but I used to work on Nantucket and a lot of the employees commuted from the mainland by plane. If the weather was REALLY bad, the company would put us up at a hotel and pay for dinner. I was 22 at the time and ended up going to bed around 830. One of the older women (45ish+) ran up a huge bar tab on the company, invited the other employees back to her room and TRASHED it. She puked all over the bedding and carpet, then called in sick the next morning and took a boat home. The company got stuck paying not only the grossly inflated price for a hotel room on Nantucket in the summer, but also for whatever damages to the room, and her sick pay for the day. I would have been MORTIFIED and quit but she didn't seem to think anything was wrong with it.
  • imageAlmondWhittle:
    Not quite a business trip, but I used to work on Nantucket and a lot of the employees commuted from the mainland by plane. If the weather was REALLY bad, the company would put us up at a hotel and pay for dinner. I was 22 at the time and ended up going to bed around 830. One of the older women (45ish+) ran up a huge bar tab on the company, invited the other employees back to her room and TRASHED it. She puked all over the bedding and carpet, then called in sick the next morning and took a boat home. The company got stuck paying not only the grossly inflated price for a hotel room on Nantucket in the summer, but also for whatever damages to the room, and her sick pay for the day. I would have been MORTIFIED and quit but she didn't seem to think anything was wrong with it.

    I'm surprised a company would pay for that mess.  I'm pretty sure my company wouldn't pay damages to anything (and certainly won't pay a bar tab - they'll pay for one drink with dinner and that's it).

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  • I was pretty shocked that they not only paid for it, but that no one ever said anything to her about it. It was an odd company though- when you're hired you get to sign a neat little paper that says if you die during the commute your family gets $35k and can't sue, even if their pilots were at fault. Flying 2x a day in a 9 seater plane isn't something I miss very much.
  • I make $0 per year.
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  • Wow those are some really low salaries. I am actually really surprised.

    I have traveled for work since I was 22...and very extensively for 7 years. I knew how to act back then and I do now. It isn't rocket surgery.

  • Hey! The $35/hr teacher is the first person that called me a hag, like 4 years ago. How funny.

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  • I've never traveled for work, but I would assume any time you were on something business-related, you would act professional. Common sense?

    The summer between my junior and senior year of college I presented a paper in Greece at a conference. It was mostly grad students but a few undergrad. Almost every night a majority of the student presenters would go out and get shiitfaced and cause a ruckus in this small town, breaking glasses, flipping tables, etc. It was embarrassing. I stayed out of it because my university paid for the trip and my prof was along. I needed job recs from him in a year; I wasn't going to screw that up.

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    I make $0 per year.

    Me too! High five.

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  • Location is everything.  Twan's brother and his wife live in a small town in MO and as households, we make close to the same amount; they live in a McMansion and go shopping every weekend, and we live in a 900 sq ft house and have second hand furniture.  Making $30k in a town of less than 50,000 people is probably above average.
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  • Location matters some, but my mom makes more than $30K in a town of 4,000.
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  • I cracked up at that too Wendy. I was traveling all over weeks at a time on my own at 23. I somehow managed. How I'll never know because clearly I was just an idiot.

    Yeah those are low IMO but I have no idea where they live or what the SOL is.

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  • I'm also in the makes no munnies category.

    I was shocked by some of those amounts too though. Especially the lawyer who makes 40K or something. Becoming an attorney is long, difficult and expensive yo. That's crazy.

  • Money is a very touchy subject.  Some of those salaries are very surprising to me, but I also live in one of the highest cost of living areas in the country.  When I first got out of college and worked at a non-profit, I made 23.5k.  Amazingly, although I make a lot more than that now, I don't feel like I have that much more disposable income.  This is partly due to the fact that I'm in a very high tax bracket (I'm not complaining about this. I'm just stating a fact), contribute a lot more to my 401k, spend a cajillion dollars a month on health insurance, and have many more costs than I did a decade ago.
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  • I was horrified by what a lot of people were making right out of law school.  I wasn't at one of those 6 digit salary big firms, but I was happy with what I started out at.  But if you were in the bottom half of the class or just otherwise not so lucky, you could start out working for a small firm, or a solo practitioner that could hire you for a bargain.  And I've heard that a lot of government law jobs (prosecutors office, public defenders' office) pay pretty badly for starting lawyers, at least in smaller towns.  I'm no expert, but I'm never surprised to hear about an attorney that makes a crap salary.  There's a huge oversupply of recent law grads nowadays.
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  • I currently make 55K, but I am getting ready to take a 20K pay cut due to switching part time. That is going to hurt. My H makes considerably more than I do and has always paid the mortgage and the major bills and vacations, but I have always paid for groceries, minor bills and our smaller vacations and still had plenty leftover to spend and put into savings. My spending money is going to be majorly cut (we do not combine finances).

  • Dude, I tell NO ONE what I make.   And I think it's a tacky thing to discuss unless you're a school teacher or in some other position where your salary is gov't controlled and totally public.  My SIL loves to tell people what she makes and what her raises are.  I think it's weird.  

  • I'm riding biitch with November and Mulva.
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  • Speaking about my co-workers, I don't want to know what they make, because I might cut a b*tch if I find out it is more than me.

    During my most recent review, I actually had to ask HR dude what my salary is now.  I clearly don't pay attention to my pay stubs.

    Regarding under 28 yo people on business trips, I will admit here that I was a far more dedicated employee when I was in my early 20s than I am now.  I worked my a$$ off, kept my nose down, and made sure people knew that I was a valuable resource.

    When I went on business trips around 24-25, people would always tell me I was working too hard and that I should go out and enjoy myself.  Um, I'm here, on the company's dime, to work.  So, I think I'll work thanks.

    Now, I'm pretty certain I would kick out of work, grab a bottle of wine, order some room service, and enjoy the hell out of a nice quiet hotel room.

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  • My coworkers are always trying to find out what people make. It is ridiculous. It is always in the context of how much work the person is actually doing at work. Yah it pisses me off when I am working my ass off and a colleague is slacking off all day and is most likely making close to the same salary as me. But WTF can I do about it so why even think about it?

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