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Re: this post is surprising
I'm puzzled at the random declaration that people under 28 can't know how to behave on a business trip?
First, excuse me? I am more than able to handle myself on a business trip. I'm pretty sure I present to folks from the pentagon on a regular basis, thanks.
Second, I have a few coworkers that have been in the job for 25+ years who can't be trusted to speak to customers or represent our group in any way. It's not about age. Some people have common sense and self awareness, some don't.
Yes. I am over 28, but have been on business trips since I was 24. Sometimes I was the only one who was behaved.
Those are pretty low as well. But the teacher who makes 35 an hour - my old roomie is a gym teacher in NY and makes 70k a year. Madness.
For less then ten cents a day, you can feed a hungry child.
Oh no, you have to read the teacher's follow-up. She basically said that's her salary translated into actual hours worked, not an an hrly wage that translates into an annual salary with 2080 hrs/yr.
I've always hated the secrecy regarding money. I like to know how much people make or spend on things. It helps me compare and contrast my own spending habits.
I make around $41-$42k.
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I get the secrecy. I feel guilty telling someone I make much more than them and don't like hearing that they make significantly more than me either.
On a more general note, I think a lot of employees would argue for equal pay (even if their performance isn't equal) based on time, title, etc. when it isn't always warranted.
When my mom died, my little brother's father showed up to petition for custody. He stood in the courtroom and proudly told the judge that he made 18-19k/yr and could therefore support himself and David. I gasped, loudly.
Agreed. Most of my whole job from 22-25 was taking business trips and I handled myself just fine, thanks.
I'm surprised a company would pay for that mess. I'm pretty sure my company wouldn't pay damages to anything (and certainly won't pay a bar tab - they'll pay for one drink with dinner and that's it).
Wow those are some really low salaries. I am actually really surprised.
I have traveled for work since I was 22...and very extensively for 7 years. I knew how to act back then and I do now. It isn't rocket surgery.
I've never traveled for work, but I would assume any time you were on something business-related, you would act professional. Common sense?
The summer between my junior and senior year of college I presented a paper in Greece at a conference. It was mostly grad students but a few undergrad. Almost every night a majority of the student presenters would go out and get shiitfaced and cause a ruckus in this small town, breaking glasses, flipping tables, etc. It was embarrassing. I stayed out of it because my university paid for the trip and my prof was along. I needed job recs from him in a year; I wasn't going to screw that up.
Me too! High five.
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I cracked up at that too Wendy. I was traveling all over weeks at a time on my own at 23. I somehow managed. How I'll never know because clearly I was just an idiot.
Yeah those are low IMO but I have no idea where they live or what the SOL is.
I'm also in the makes no munnies category.
I was shocked by some of those amounts too though. Especially the lawyer who makes 40K or something. Becoming an attorney is long, difficult and expensive yo. That's crazy.
I currently make 55K, but I am getting ready to take a 20K pay cut due to switching part time. That is going to hurt. My H makes considerably more than I do and has always paid the mortgage and the major bills and vacations, but I have always paid for groceries, minor bills and our smaller vacations and still had plenty leftover to spend and put into savings. My spending money is going to be majorly cut (we do not combine finances).
Dude, I tell NO ONE what I make. And I think it's a tacky thing to discuss unless you're a school teacher or in some other position where your salary is gov't controlled and totally public. My SIL loves to tell people what she makes and what her raises are. I think it's weird.
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Speaking about my co-workers, I don't want to know what they make, because I might cut a b*tch if I find out it is more than me.
During my most recent review, I actually had to ask HR dude what my salary is now. I clearly don't pay attention to my pay stubs.
Regarding under 28 yo people on business trips, I will admit here that I was a far more dedicated employee when I was in my early 20s than I am now. I worked my a$$ off, kept my nose down, and made sure people knew that I was a valuable resource.
When I went on business trips around 24-25, people would always tell me I was working too hard and that I should go out and enjoy myself. Um, I'm here, on the company's dime, to work. So, I think I'll work thanks.
Now, I'm pretty certain I would kick out of work, grab a bottle of wine, order some room service, and enjoy the hell out of a nice quiet hotel room.
My coworkers are always trying to find out what people make. It is ridiculous. It is always in the context of how much work the person is actually doing at work. Yah it pisses me off when I am working my ass off and a colleague is slacking off all day and is most likely making close to the same salary as me. But WTF can I do about it so why even think about it?