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Can we talk about financial problems?

Regular going anonymous here - I'm super paranoid of people somehow connecting the dots. 

My husband and I are pretty financially conservative - we are striving to avoid debt in the future, and are working towards paying off what little debt we have. I have just finished knocking out a small student loan debt, and my husband is closing in on paying off his truck. We've got a little bit of money in savings, and once the truck is paid off, we'll begin a serious savings account and start a down payment for a house. 

So, that's us, in a nutshell.

However, we've got some friends that we just love. They'res just awesome people, but the more the husband tells me about his financial situation, the more I feel as though I am watching an oncoming train wreck, and I don't know how to respond. Without going into details, they've got at least about $500K of debt, and he'll kind of make fun of himself about it, but I don't know what to say. I don't want to be all preachy, but I don't want to minimalize it, either. They haven't really asked for help, so I don't feel like I can really say much, you know?  How do you guys handle stuff like this? Should I just hush up and mind my business?

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  • I ignored the post and instead tried to think of whose husbands have trucks. I'm sorry.
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  • Ha ha! I don't post a lot on here, but I lurk often, so you'll probably not put it together. It's not important though, I swear. I'm just kind of paranoid about putting stuff on the internet, especially when I'm talking about other people's finances.
  • Oh wait, I thought you were saying YOUR husband is secretly $500k in debt.

    Honestly, I'd just leave it alone. Unless they come to you for money, it's not your place. But that may be my uptight New Englander coming out.

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  • imagesalimoo:
    I ignored the post and instead tried to think of whose husbands have trucks. I'm sorry.

    You and me both.

    But dude, did you see the girl on MM who complained about her friend's dog while she was dog-sitting, and said friend posted calling her a liar?

    I don't really remember the question.  But if it was whether to say something to your friend, I vote no.  People can be really strange about money, and if you want to keep the friendship I wouldn't say anything unless they asked.


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  • I find this sort of odd.

    1.  Don't really know why you feel like you need to hide under a new SN for this, unless your "friend" is a poster as well.

    2.  I'm not really sure what you expect to be able to do about this.

    They know they are up a creek on this.  You can't be in debt and not know that you're in a mess.  They don't need to hear it from you because that will just sound like judgment no matter what you say.  My opinion is that you stay out of it.

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  • so . . . let me get this straight.

    you are asking how to handle some friends' finances who have not asked for your help?  yeah.  you don't.  MYOB.

    I'm not sure what your financial outlook has to do with anything.  Basically your friend jokes about being 500K in debt, which doesn't affect you whatsoever, and you want to what--warn him?  stop him?  put him on a budget?

    this post just makes no sense to me.  don't cosign for anything for them.  that's about all the advice I have for you. 

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  • imageVinny2008:

    I find this sort of odd.

    1.  Don't really know why you feel like you need to hide under a new SN for this, unless your "friend" is a poster as well.

    Yeah. This is why I originally thought the poster's H was $500k in debt. THAT I would be hiding behind an AE to post.

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  • This is A. none of your business, even if he jokes about it and B. you never really know anyone else's financial situation even when you think you do.

    The simple answer is, don't lend them any money and if you feel uncomfortable when the subject of finances is raised, discretely bring up another topic.

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  • None of your business.
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  • I have two good friends with debt situations I find to be appalling, and at least one that I think should be in a much Bette financial situation based on salary. It has never even crossed my mind to bring it up. They're adults. They're not asking for advice. I find the idea of you raising the issue kind of ridiculous. Why do you feel compelled to do so?
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  • I'm not sure what I expect to be able to do about this either, truth be told. I guess I'm not sure how to respond when they say stuff like, "Well, we just got a new dining room set - we totally can't afford it, but we thought, hey, we'll just put it on the card since that's our MO these days." I mean, what do I SAY to that? I just tried to focus on complimenting the dining set, but I'm worried about sort of encouraging behavior that's hurting them, I guess.

    But you're right - they've GOT to know they're not doing themselves any favors, and it is kind of egotistical of me to assume they'd change their ways just because I piped up about it.  

  • Yea, it's nonya.  Stay out of it.
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  • imageChristinS:
    I have two good friends with debt situations I find to be appalling, and at least one that I think should be in a much Bette financial situation based on salary. It has never even crossed my mind to bring it up. They're adults. They're not asking for advice. I find the idea of you raising the issue kind of ridiculous. Why do you feel compelled to do so?

    I'm sorry, I don't think I'm being clear. I absolutely don't want to bring it up myself, no way. I agree, that's a terrible idea. I'm just not sure how to respond when they bring it up.  

  • I would say, "oh, what color wood did you get for your dining set?" and not approach the financial aspect of it at all.
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  • imagemodb1rd:

    The simple answer is, don't lend them any money and if you feel uncomfortable when the subject of finances is raised, discretely bring up another topic.

    Oh, I just saw this. That's a good idea, maybe I'll try that - just changing the subject entirely.  

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  • image2bMrsEAB:
    I now have Salt n' Pepa in my head.

    So do I. ;) 

  • If they are joking, laugh and change the subject. It's not up to you to minimize or...um, maximize their situation.
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  • I can understand that feeling. A good friend was out of work for a year, living with parents, and not even making enough working very part time at a retail store to cove his ever mounting credit card monthly payments. Yet he was out at the bars, driving all over the city, going out to eat all the time, and carries an iPhone. I gave him shiit all the time, but that was kind of acceptable within the parameters of our friendship.
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  • I'm still confused as to why an AE was needed to do this. And why did you feel the need to explain your own financial situation before talking about your friends' situation?
  • imagejens_a_ten:
    I'm still confused as to why an AE was needed to do this. And why did you feel the need to explain your own financial situation before talking about your friends' situation?

    Oh, I'm just paranoid about that kind of thing. And again, since I am talking about finances - it's just such a sticky topic anyway.

    I felt the need to explain our own to try and illustrate my thought process, if that makes any sense at all. It seems more horrifying to us since we are actively working to get rid of debt, I think. 

  • imagejens_a_ten:
    And why did you feel the need to explain your own financial situation before talking about your friends' situation?

    This is what I don't get.  Were you trying to prove you had the right to judge them?


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  • imageSarahBethBR:

    imagejens_a_ten:
    And why did you feel the need to explain your own financial situation before talking about your friends' situation?

    This is what I don't get.  Were you trying to prove you had the right to judge them?

    No friggin' way. 

  • Sooooooo ... what kind of work does your husband do? Does he use his truck for said work? What school did you use said loan to pay for?

    This will help me give better advice.

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  • imagesalimoo:

    Sooooooo ... what kind of work does your husband do? Does he use his truck for said work? What school did you use said loan to pay for?

    This will help me give better advice.

    HA! Computers, nope, and a state school. :) 

  • Are you providing yourself advice under your real sn?
  • image2bMrsEAB:
    Are you providing yourself advice under your real sn?

    HA! 

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  • Does the half a million include a mortgage?  Look, you get to be horrified, but you gotta keep it zipped until you and your truck-driving H are alone and you can be all "Holyshit, I'd DIE if we had that much debt."
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  • Nope!

    I promise, I really do just lurk mostly, and post only occasionally. 

  • Way to back off, person who called themselves a regular.

    I haven't been paying attention because I have no idea what you people drive, let alone your husbands.


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