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Am I a bad person? MIL story....

So here is the deal.  H and I have a larger income than both my mom and his parents. We also have an inheritance from my dad and grandma.

Well, about 4 months ago, my mom needed some work done on her teeth.  She was in a lot of pain and need a bridge replaced among other things with her teeth.  She waited so long because she didn't have the money (she is retired and just does not have enough money coming in).  So I talked to H and we decided to pay for it.  This is the 1st time my mom has ever asked me to pay for anything.  She even said that she would pay me back.  I told her not to worry about it.

Well, MIL somehow (we think that BIL over heard H talking to my mom about her teeth and telling her not worry about the money) found out that we gave my mom this money.  Now, she is asking us for money to redo her kitchen.  She makes these little comments while talking to H and I about how we are some much better off than they will ever be.... blah, blah, blah.....

I out right told H that I was not ok with giving her money to redo her kitchen out of the inheritance and he said that was fine.  So he and I are on the same page, but when we told MIL she got all offended saying that we helped out my mom, but not her.

I feel like this is different because it was a health and pain issue.  H agrees.  We told MIL that, but she just see's it as we giving my mom money and not her.

I think I am experiencing some reluctance to give her anything because I don't particularly like her that much.  And I am still bitter about how she reacted when she found out how much my dad's life insurance policy was.... which she was laughing and happy.  I could hear her screaming with joy over the phone while she was talking with H.  Yeah, the woman has no tact.  I was livid.

And I did have a convo with DH about this and he said it was bad and he didn't even know why he told her.  He said that he was in daze and not really thinking.  We don't discuss money with them anymore at all.  That was the last time and it was 2 years ago.  She still tries to pry, but to no avail. 

Anyway, 

Am I wrong here?  About giving my mom but not his mom?  

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  • She's right; this isn't fair.  To ensure that both mothers are treated equally, you should punch MIL in the face and knock out her teeth, and then pay to have them fixed.
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  • imageReturnOfKuus:
    She's right; this isn't fair.  To ensure that both mothers are treated equally, you should punch MIL in the face and knock out her teeth, and then pay to have them fixed.

    LOL!  You know.... it might be worth it.... Devil

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  • No, you're not wrong.

    Don't allow her to make you feel guilty.  If she were in severe pain every day and needed dental work she couldn't afford, I'm guessing you and your H would at least consider helping her out, as you have done with your mom.  But needing a kitchen makeover is not in the same category of urgency as needing dental work.  AND, your mom's misfortune =/= MIL's chance to "get her fair share" or to cash in.

    If she continues to hint around about you guys paying for her stuff, just ignore it.  Or leave it to your H to rebuff her hints.

  • YOu all are not wrong, but your DH should be having these conversations with your MIL not you.
  • Why why why did DH ever divulge to MIL how much the inheritance was for?! Yours & his financials should be kept private...especially from 2 yr olds like MIL.

    I don't see why the situation was just never simply avoided by dodging MIL's request.

    DH: "Mom, I don't know what BIL told you or what he thinks he 'overheard' but we are not loaning money to anyone."

    This statement is not far from the truth, as you & DH are infact not 'loaning' the money to your mom - but rather giving it to her :)  See how that works.

    But now that the scenario has taken a bad turn, I would say to approach the situation head on and tell MIL that you & DH are not a bank and what you do with your money is your business.  Tell her that a health emergency and a brand new kitchen are not to be compared. 

    This woman needs boundaries and you & DH have to set them.  Stop telling her information and then she can't meddle.  The less she knows, the more in the dark she is.

  • imageMrsHabious:
    YOu all are not wrong, but your DH should be having these conversations with your MIL not you.

    We actually told her "no" together on speaker phone.  I don't really talk to her anymore.  Unless we see them in person which is not often.  She talks to her H for a half hour every Sunday.

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  • imageReturnOfKuus:
    She's right; this isn't fair.  To ensure that both mothers are treated equally, you should punch MIL in the face and knock out her teeth, and then pay to have them fixed.

    This!

    If your MIL ever tries to play the "you gave $X to your mom," card, you/DH should tell her "what we do for my mom (or DH's MIL) is none of your business." 

    I would like a kitchen re-do, too!  But I haven't gotten one because, gee, I can't afford it!

    image "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes.
  • imageReturnOfKuus:
    She's right; this isn't fair.  To ensure that both mothers are treated equally, you should punch MIL in the face and knock out her teeth, and then pay to have them fixed.

    This!

    If your MIL ever tries to play the "you gave $X to your mom," card, you/DH should tell her "what we do for my mom (or DH's MIL) is none of your business." 

    I would like a kitchen re-do, too!  But I haven't gotten one because, gee, I can't afford it!

    image "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes.
  • imageReturnOfKuus:
    She's right; this isn't fair.  To ensure that both mothers are treated equally, you should punch MIL in the face and knock out her teeth, and then pay to have them fixed.

    Yes

     

    No, you guys aren't in the wrong. Your MIL is way out of line.

  • Ditto everyone.  No, you aren't a bad person.  I don't know where your MIL got the notion that because she and your mom are both "moms" that somehow you and DH need to treat them 100% the same.

    Different situations. entirely.  Which is the point- you did what you did because of the situation your mom was in. Not because it was your "mom".

     

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  • Just want to echo everyone else - you are not wrong.

    For her to even compare necessary dental work to kitchen renovation is ridiculous. Plus, your inheritance is from YOUR dad and grandma, both of whom I would assume would have wanted you to use some of the money for your mother's health.

  • Another point, while I'm sure you're sharing with your H, your inheritance is YOUR money from YOUR father, and not technically joint money.  So YOU can choose to help YOUR mother with YOUR money and MIL had zero claim to it... or to as much help or allegiance from you.
  • The only thing that you've done wrong is offering his mom explanations for how you spend your money.  I'd stick with "We appreciate your concern, however you do not need to worry about how we spend our money.  It's under control" and change the subject. 

    I agree with your reasoning, but she doesn't need to know it.  Offering explanations seems like she has a right to an opinion.

  • imagekmap24:

    The only thing that you've done wrong is offering his mom explanations for how you spend your money.  I'd stick with "We appreciate your concern, however you do not need to worry about how we spend our money.  It's under control" and change the subject. 

    I agree with your reasoning, but she doesn't need to know it.  Offering explanations seems like she has a right to an opinion.

    I agree with this. Stop explaining your decisions to her. It doesn't matter what your reasoning is. You don't need a good enough reason to not give her money, and she has no rights to an explanation.
  • It's really very simple: you don't owe anyone anything. Life isn't "fair" - it's about doing what you think is right, and helping your mother get her teeth fixed was "right" for me. It's a priority, and it's health related, and it was very nice of you. But your MIL's decision to update her kitchen, well, that's not on your priority list and that's fine. More than fine, actually. It's your decision and like I said, you don't owe anyone anything.

    It seems to me that your MIL equates money with love, and that to her, your giving your mother the money to fix her teeth (even though she's not considering that aspect; she's probably just looking at it as giving your mother money, period) should be evened out by your giving her money as well. She might not have the most tact (her reaction to your father's life insurance policy was disgusting, if you ask me), and she's putting you in a no win situation - either you give her the money and be disgusted in yourselves, or you don't give her the money and you end up the "bad guys."

    But you determine how this situation ultimately comes out. Tell her that you won't give her the money for something that you don't deem necessary. He who has the gold makes the rules, and this is your rule. She might *** and moan and gripe about it, but that's not a bad -- after all, if you give her money for her kitchen, what makes you think she won't come back with her hand outstretched when she needs a new car or living room furniture?

  • I know you know by now from the long thread of posts you are not wrong but I just wanted to thrown in some more support.  Take it from somewhere who was in your shoes and made the wrong decision, once you give money it never stops.  It will only be take, take take.  I admire your strength and courage in this, hold strong. 
  •  You are not wrong at all. It is none of your in-laws business what you and you H do with your money.

  • imageReturnOfKuus:
    She's right; this isn't fair.  To ensure that both mothers are treated equally, you should punch MIL in the face and knock out her teeth, and then pay to have them fixed.

    ROFL! I don't post much but that was just too great! Funny and the best advice ever!

    KRHagen November 2009
  • I bet if Dad and Grandma were here they would be quick to help mom...But why would they give to MIL???  (NO! you are not a bad person.Smile)
  • Your H's Bro and his mother need to mind their own business.  Your H needs to say "this isn't open for discussion" and every time she brings it up say "ok, gotta go" and hang up.  Your MIL is pathetic.
  • imageLarissaAnn:
    Another point, while I'm sure you're sharing with your H, your inheritance is YOUR money from YOUR father, and not technically joint money.  So YOU can choose to help YOUR mother with YOUR money and MIL had zero claim to it... or to as much help or allegiance from you.

     

    I was just about to point this out

  • imageootmother2:

    imageLarissaAnn:
    Another point, while I'm sure you're sharing with your H, your inheritance is YOUR money from YOUR father, and not technically joint money.  So YOU can choose to help YOUR mother with YOUR money and MIL had zero claim to it... or to as much help or allegiance from you.

     

    I was just about to point this out

    I know this.  And H knows this as well.  He is aware that I have final say on what happens with this moneys.

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  • I think you should do a big renovation on your MOM'S kitchen. And flip your MIL the bird when it's done.

    Big Smile

    Entitled prick.

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  • No, you're not wrong, she is. Also, I agree with the prior posters taht your money should only be YOUR business. You all have decided not to talk to her about her money, now stick to that!
  • Biiiiiig difference between NEEDING dental work done and WANTING to remodel a kitchen. Really?? Luxury vs. pain/health?? Your MIL sounds like a gold digging brat with dollar signs in her eyes every time she looks at you and her son. Stick to your guns on this one!!
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  • imagesaraelizabeth28:
    I know this.  And H knows this as well.  He is aware that I have final say on what happens with this moneys.
    But this goes beyond him "being aware", right?  As in, he fully understands that his mother is being ridiculous, right? 

    I ask because for the fact that he WAY overshared w/ her in telling her about the amount of the policy in the first place, I just hope that he really gets it and that he's not just backing you up because it's what he's "supposed" to do as your DH.  He's backing you up because he knows, REALLY knows, that his mother is way off base. 

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  • your mom needed something done medically for her teeth. Remodling is not a necessity. your mother in law should know the difference.  When do parents turn to children where one has to get the same as the other.  Let your husband handle this.
  • Wow, your MIL sure is ballsy.

    I don't think you should have to explain to MIL why you're not giving her money, but if you do, I would just say that if MIL needs an expensive medical procedure to alleviate suffering in the future, you will do what you can to help.    That does not include a handout for a new kitchen.   

    And why was she cackling when she found out how much the life insurance policy was?     I don't see how, in any circumstance, the reaction would be laughter.

  • imageootmother2:

    imageLarissaAnn:
    Another point, while I'm sure you're sharing with your H, your inheritance is YOUR money from YOUR father, and not technically joint money.  So YOU can choose to help YOUR mother with YOUR money and MIL had zero claim to it... or to as much help or allegiance from you.

    I was just about to point this out

    Me, too. 

  • "We're not discussing our financial matters with you.  What we do with our money is our choice.  If you continue to bring up this issue we will either end the visit or hang up the phone."

    Your MIL is trying to play the victim, and will try to guilt trip you.  She's causing these problems on her own by having unrealistic expectations.  She also sounds like a person with hidden agendas and is passive-aggressive.  Be firm.

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