Unpopular opinions

ostatekris05 · November 2010

amidavey06:
I think Taylor Swift is overrated. Watching her perform last night on the CMA's solidifed that for me. I think her voice live is out of key and just sounds bad. I was kind of afraid to post this on FB last night because I'm sure my younger cousins would have hunted me down.

Totally agree. In fact, my friend's younger sister and I were arguing about this last night. She thinks Taylor is gorgeous. Hmm

stripesandspots · November 2010

wendyld:
stripesandspots:
Snowful:

I don't think government sterilization is such a bad idea. They should start with my neighborhood welfare cats first.

I also think people should have a certain IQ score to qualify for voting.

Holy.crap.

Speechless.

Didn't we (as a country) at one time use voter qualifications such as education as a vehicle for persecution of large groups of people? Yeah, bringing that back sounds like an awesome idea.

Also, I'm going to pretend this means that Snowful is a proponent of an OPTION for government sponsored sterilization, not requirement. I'll sleep better tonight that way.

I think (I know) she is being sarcastic.

oklagirl · November 2010

stripesandspots:
wendyld:
stripesandspots:
Snowful:

I don't think government sterilization is such a bad idea. They should start with my neighborhood welfare cats first.

I also think people should have a certain IQ score to qualify for voting.

Holy.crap.

Speechless.

Didn't we (as a country) at one time use voter qualifications such as education as a vehicle for persecution of large groups of people? Yeah, bringing that back sounds like an awesome idea.

Also, I'm going to pretend this means that Snowful is a proponent of an OPTION for government sponsored sterilization, not requirement. I'll sleep better tonight that way.

I think (I know) she is being sarcastic.

I kinda thought she must be joking, but I also didn't want to touch that with a ten-foot pole.

cc605 · November 2010

In the case of the Duggars, even if they can financially afford all those children I do not think each and everyone of those children's emotional needs are getting met (at least not by their parents). One episode Jordyn was pulling on Michelle's skirt trying to say something and her mom was like "Go ask Jana". Yes, she said it in a nice and calm voice but I think the older girls and raising the younger kids more than the parents actually raise them. I think the Duggars would be up shiz creek without a paddle if the oldest 4 girls said peace out we are going to school/mission/get married and they would be left with all those kids.

Last week Anna was all finger snapping about yeah she's driving a Hummer but her baby wears cloth diapers so her carbon footprint is smaller than your kid in a sposie *finger snaps*. Chick you want to talk about how many landfills your ILs diapers are polluting?? The Duggars constantly use paper plates/cups/napkins/disposible diapers. Carbon footprint that!

I enjoy watching their show and I think they are good people who do good things for others but I think they have left their kids at a disadvantage.

prettygirl06 · November 2010

I am very grateful to programs that advocate helping others. I don't moan/complain because I know that while there are some that abuse the system, there are many that DO NOT. My concern are for the children, let us think of them when we view moms within the system. It is rather easy to look to others as problems and not see that in the end, we can assist.

kayleeb · November 2010

amidavey06:
I think Taylor Swift is overrated. Watching her perform last night on the CMA's solidifed that for me. I think her voice live is out of key and just sounds bad. I was kind of afraid to post this on FB last night because I'm sure my younger cousins would have hunted me down.

I'm a big Taylor Swift fan! I agree that her voice isn't amazing, but I really like that she writes all of her own songs, unlike so many artists these days.

stripesandspots · November 2010

I really wish my husband's company would make up their damn minds about when their xmas party is going to be. They have changed the date about 19 times and it is really annoying me. How hard can it be to pick a date? Oh, and by the way, it is November 11th. Pick a fvcking date or don't have a party.

critti710 · November 2010

amanjay:
Being financially ok does not necessarily equal working hard (DH and I are living proof of that.)

Not being financially secure does not necessarily equal not working hard (the cleaning person who comes in third shift to clean my office after working her full shift at Chick Fil'A is living proof of that.)

If we lived in a true meritocracy, I'd be a lot less in favor of entitlement programs. But unfortunately, the idea that the U.S. is a meritocracy is a pipe dream.

Yes times a million. This is the biggest thing that pisses me off when these discussions happen. I am so frustrated by the misconception that most poor people are sitting around on their fat _asses mooching off of the system. According to the Working Poor Families Project, using data from 2005, 29% of all working families make less than the reasonable estimate of what is required to be economically self-sufficient.

bluekid · November 2010

critti710:
amanjay:
Being financially ok does not necessarily equal working hard (DH and I are living proof of that.)
Not being financially secure does not necessarily equal not working hard (the cleaning person who comes in third shift to clean my office after working her full shift at Chick Fil'A is living proof of that.)
If we lived in a true meritocracy, I'd be a lot less in favor of entitlement programs. But unfortunately, the idea that the U.S. is a meritocracy is a pipe dream.
times a million. This is the biggest thing that pisses me off when these discussions happen. I am so frustrated by the misconception that most poor people are sitting around on their fat _asses mooching off of the system. According to the Working Poor Families Project, using data from 2005, 29% of all working families make less than the reasonable estimate of what is required to be economically self-sufficient.

Could not agree more.

Anyone else find it hilariously ironic that we're discussing this myth that poor people don't work hard, which has been posted on a message board during work hours?

tjlovesthepokes · November 2010

kayleeb:

amidavey06:
I think Taylor Swift is overrated. Watching her perform last night on the CMA's solidifed that for me. I think her voice live is out of key and just sounds bad. I was kind of afraid to post this on FB last night because I'm sure my younger cousins would have hunted me down.

I'm a big Taylor Swift fan! I agree that her voice isn't amazing, but I really like that she writes all of her own songs, unlike so many artists these days.

I'm not a HUGE fan, but I like her. I don't think she's absolutely terrible... there are others that are worse. And, I really, really like that she writes all of her own stuff.

kayleeb · November 2010

bluekid:
critti710:
amanjay:

Being financially ok does not necessarily equal working hard (DH and I are living proof of that.)

Not being financially secure does not necessarily equal not working hard (the cleaning person who comes in third shift to clean my office after working her full shift at Chick Fil'A is living proof of that.)

If we lived in a true meritocracy, I'd be a lot less in favor of entitlement programs. But unfortunately, the idea that the U.S. is a meritocracy is a pipe dream.

times a million. This is the biggest thing that pisses me off when these discussions happen. I am so frustrated by the misconception that most poor people are sitting around on their fat _asses mooching off of the system. According to the Working Poor Families Project, using data from 2005, 29% of all working families make less than the reasonable estimate of what is required to be economically self-sufficient.

Could not agree more.

Anyone else find it hilariously ironic that we're discussing this myth that poor people don't work hard, which has been posted on a message board during work hours?

Hahahaha!

oklagirl · November 2010

bluekid:
critti710:
amanjay:

Being financially ok does not necessarily equal working hard (DH and I are living proof of that.)

Not being financially secure does not necessarily equal not working hard (the cleaning person who comes in third shift to clean my office after working her full shift at Chick Fil'A is living proof of that.)

If we lived in a true meritocracy, I'd be a lot less in favor of entitlement programs. But unfortunately, the idea that the U.S. is a meritocracy is a pipe dream.

times a million. This is the biggest thing that pisses me off when these discussions happen. I am so frustrated by the misconception that most poor people are sitting around on their fat _asses mooching off of the system. According to the Working Poor Families Project, using data from 2005, 29% of all working families make less than the reasonable estimate of what is required to be economically self-sufficient.

Could not agree more.

Anyone else find it hilariously ironic that we're discussing this myth that poor people don't work hard, which has been posted on a message board during work hours?

Seriously. At my "real" job where I make a decent salary, I sit on my butt most of the time and work/nest/joke around. At my second job where I make just over minimum wage, I'm on my feet the whole time, running around and can't even text anyone.

Steven&Jamie · November 2010

tbvenable:
ShansBride:

wendyld:
I'd also like to ask how many of the people who have such strong opinions have ever been the recipient of state aid?
I spent most of my early childhood receiving WIC/Food Stamps (at the best of times, it got much worse as well). I've seen firsthand all of the horror stories and abuse of the system. I believe we do need reform, but we need reform that is effective (and cost effective) and doesn't punish children for things they can't control.

I don't really have a strong opinion, but my H does on this subject. He grew up in really sh!tty conditions. His mom got all sorts of gov't assistance, but he was still hungry and got evicted from appts one after another. His mom worked, but she also drank and the food stamp money usually didn't mean food on the table for him. He said there were weeks and months where the only meals he got were his free lunch and breakfast at school.
Now granted, he is one person, but I would bet he is not alone. I don't think that everyone getting gov't assistance is working the system, but I think a lot do. I think without reform, kids are being punished for things they can't control.
I agree with Shansbride. It happens alot more than people think.
No I have never been a recipient of state aid. My parents worked their a$$es of to provide for us when we were still at home and they do the same to this day so that they can live the comfortable life style they want to live. Both of my parents worked for the same company and when the company closed down they has other jobs with in weeks after the shut down. They raised to work hard and pay for everything we have. Living off of Gov. assistance is not a way of life for me nor was it when I was a child.

I really hope I'm reading this wrong, but your response comes across as judgy and narrow-minded and it really pisses me off. Yes, there are people (a lot of them--I witness it more than I care to at work) who take advantage of the system and have no problem living off of gov. assistance. But DO NOT assume that b/c someone works hard they are better than anyone else. And DO NOT assume that b/c someone receives gov. assistance that is "their way of life".

Judge if you will, but let me share this with you---at the age of 28 and after 10 years of marriage, my mom found herself divorced, with only a HS education, and supporting 2 kids by herself. My biological father might as well have dropped off the face of the earth. So, while working TWO JOBS and going to college full time, my mom sought government assistance. It's been almost 20 years and I can still remember my mom crying when we went to enroll in the food stamp program. We lived in low income housing during my MS and part of my HS years, and received food stamps for about 2 years or so. My mom hated every.single.minute of it. But you know what? She worked her a$$ off to provide for us, and she still "raised us to work hard and pay for everything we have" (as you put it). During that difficult time, she had to push aside her pride and get help. My mom now has her Master's and is a Nurse Practitioner and she STILL works her a$$ off. And guess what?? living off gov. assistance is not her, or mine or my sister's, way of life. But sometimes you have to do things you don't want to do in order to provide for your family so, for that time being, we had to turn to gov. assistance and I'm thankful that it was available to us.

So, I suggest that you step off your high horse and stop and think about the people who NEED that type of help. Think about the people who do everything in their power to utilize that help for the shortest amount of time possible. Think about those children who wouldn't be able to eat without that help.

Steven&Jamie · November 2010

amidavey06:
I think Taylor Swift is overrated. Watching her perform last night on the CMA's solidifed that for me. I think her voice live is out of key and just sounds bad. I was kind of afraid to post this on FB last night because I'm sure my younger cousins would have hunted me down.

I would have backed you up Yes

Since most of her songs sound very similar to me, I'm not that impressed with her songwriting skills either.

OUKap · November 2010

wonders how many people who use the word carbon footprint has an SUV for their one child.

Future Navy Wife · November 2010

OSUWifey09:

tavia_martin:
Everyone seems to think the Duggars have had too many kids and they need to stop. My UO is, I don't think it's wrong or irresponsible for them to have 20+ kids. They're supporting their family well and their kids are very well behaved. I thought of this because Josh and Anna just announced on the Today show they're expecting #2.

ITA. It's not like they can't afford their kids or anything like that - they're raising them in a great home using their own means. I don't see an issue with it, either.

I : the Duggars. I really do. I think their children are incredibly well behaved children and I feel they will make wonderful, well rounded adults when they grow up.

And I just knew Josh and Anna were expecting!! When they did their large group family shot a few weeks ago, I could have sworn it looked like she had a bump under there! Yea for them!

Kellyn62 · November 2010

Future Navy Wife:
OSUWifey09:

tavia_martin:
Everyone seems to think the Duggars have had too many kids and they need to stop. My UO is, I don't think it's wrong or irresponsible for them to have 20+ kids. They're supporting their family well and their kids are very well behaved. I thought of this because Josh and Anna just announced on the Today show they're expecting #2.
ITA. It's not like they can't afford their kids or anything like that - they're raising them in a great home using their own means. I don't see an issue with it, either.
I : the Duggars. I really do. I think their children are incredibly well behaved children and I feel they will make wonderful, well rounded adults when they grow up.
And I just knew Josh and Anna were expecting!! When they did their large group family shot a few weeks ago, I could have sworn it looked like she had a bump under there! Yea for them!

I really like the Duggars, also.

I guess my unpopular opinion is that I think bashing them for their carbon footprint is dumb. Yea, they have a lot of kids, but who are you to say it's irresponsible? H and I were talking about this...none of their kids have their own cars, I think (Except Josh, now). If you were to divide up the Duggars into groups of 4 representing the 'average American family', each group would probably have 2-3 cars. They don't have that many cars, and yea they use that huge bus, but isn't that like public transit? Which is being promoted to help reduce carbon emissions? I know that's just one aspect, but it's my unpopular opinion, I suppose.

Copswife05 · November 2010

tjlovesthepokes:
I feel like DHS fails more kids than it helps. I know that's not particularly true, because we don't hear all the happy stories on the news, but for the love of knitting. It seems like many the stories I've been hearing recently, DHS was involved at some point or should have obviously been involved and weren't and the end result is a tragic end to a child's life. It's so sad and it makes me so angry and resentful.

I totally agree. But after today, don't even get me started on DHS. They are at the top of my hate list.

tbvenable · November 2010

Steven&Jamie:
tbvenable:
ShansBride:

wendyld:

I'd also like to ask how many of the people who have such strong opinions have ever been the recipient of state aid?

I spent most of my early childhood receiving WIC/Food Stamps (at the best of times, it got much worse as well). I've seen firsthand all of the horror stories and abuse of the system. I believe we do need reform, but we need reform that is effective (and cost effective) and doesn't punish children for things they can't control.

I don't really have a strong opinion, but my H does on this subject. He grew up in really sh!tty conditions. His mom got all sorts of gov't assistance, but he was still hungry and got evicted from appts one after another. His mom worked, but she also drank and the food stamp money usually didn't mean food on the table for him. He said there were weeks and months where the only meals he got were his free lunch and breakfast at school.

Now granted, he is one person, but I would bet he is not alone. I don't think that everyone getting gov't assistance is working the system, but I think a lot do. I think without reform, kids are being punished for things they can't control.

I agree with Shansbride. It happens alot more than people think.

No I have never been a recipient of state aid. My parents worked their a$$es of to provide for us when we were still at home and they do the same to this day so that they can live the comfortable life style they want to live. Both of my parents worked for the same company and when the company closed down they has other jobs with in weeks after the shut down. They raised to work hard and pay for everything we have. Living off of Gov. assistance is not a way of life for me nor was it when I was a child.

I really hope I'm reading this wrong, but your response comes across as judgy and narrow-minded and it really pisses me off. Yes, there are people (a lot of them--I witness it more than I care to at work) who take advantage of the system and have no problem living off of gov. assistance. But DO NOT assume that b/c someone works hard they are better than anyone else. And DO NOT assume that b/c someone receives gov. assistance that is "their way of life".

Judge if you will, but let me share this with you---at the age of 28 and after 10 years of marriage, my mom found herself divorced, with only a HS education, and supporting 2 kids by herself. My biological father might as well have dropped off the face of the earth. So, while working TWO JOBS and going to college full time, my mom sought government assistance. It's been almost 20 years and I can still remember my mom crying when we went to enroll in the food stamp program. We lived in low income housing during my MS and part of my HS years, and received food stamps for about 2 years or so. My mom hated every.single.minute of it. But you know what? She worked her a$$ off to provide for us, and she still "raised us to work hard and pay for everything we have" (as you put it). During that difficult time, she had to push aside her pride and get help. My mom now has her Master's and is a Nurse Practitioner and she STILL works her a$$ off. And guess what?? living off gov. assistance is not her, or mine or my sister's, way of life. But sometimes you have to do things you don't want to do in order to provide for your family so, for that time being, we had to turn to gov. assistance and I'm thankful that it was available to us.

So, I suggest that you step off your high horse and stop and think about the people who NEED that type of help. Think about the people who do everything in their power to utilize that help for the shortest amount of time possible. Think about those children who wouldn't be able to eat without that help.

I am not on a high horse and I am speaking about the people who are taking advantage of the system not the ones who really need it! Yes I do understand that for some it is a must but there are a ton of people who live off of it. In your moms case I can see she was not and that was a last resort for her. I think I may of kind of explained that in another post and I do know I explained in another post they type of people that pi$$ me off and I am sure your moms case was not in there!

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