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Wedding horror stories? share them!

What went wrong with mine? Lots of little things, but I didn'treally care, I enjoyed it to the max, the happiest day so far :) but here iswhat went wrong:

 

-priest said the wrong names at the ceremony- we all laughed andwe corrected the priest, the priest made a funny comment like "that was atest to make sure you were all paying attention"

 

-the hotel miscounted so they didn't have enough ribbons for thechairs (around 7 chairs were ribbon-less) - we put those chairs way in the backwere we had set up a table for the band to eat dinner, no big deal

 

-one of my BM lost the ribbon to her dress (if she didn't have it,you would be able to tell, it was a black ribbon over a light colored dress) thehostess we had went to the hotel's storage room and found a black ribbon,it worked perfect, you couldn?t even tell the difference

 

-we didn't have the engraved knifes to cut the cake- the hotel gave usa whatever knife, we used that one, we took pictures and went back out to thedance floor to dance the night away

 

so, yes things went wrong, but it was the perfect day for me, I lovedevery minute of it! I know there are some great stories out there, sharethem  J

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  • We were having our ceremony and reception at the same place, (ceremony in the courtyard and reception in the hall)  The facility coordinator forgot we were getting married in the courtyard and did not have anything set up.  I had to wait in the kitchen while our guests waited in the reception area. I was so mad and our ceremony started an hour late,   But the good thing out of all this was that our guests who were running late arrived in time to see me walk down the aisle. Smile

  • Our flower girl ran out of pedals before she even walked halfway down the aisle.  She got so upset she just pouted and stood there. Her mum had to coax her to walk the rest of the way, but during our pictures later she was still pouting!  It was cute, actually, and everyone was laughing.  =)
  • My sister threw me a bachelorette party the Thursday before my wedding and she did not invite my MIL because she is ultra conservative and would have been offended. MIL found out she wasn't invited and told me off the day before the wedding. She told me that if I didn't change the way I acted then DH and I would get divorced and that she would try to bite her tongue when the minister asked if anyone objected the marriage. She is seriously crazy and said tons of other things, but those two things really did hurt my feelings. She had never said one mean word to me in the entire time I've known her, so it def put a damper on the weekend.
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  • Two of my H's grandparents didn't even show. One has dementia, so that was understandable, but his grandmother just didn't want to come. She gave me the excuse that her ankles were too swollen to put on shoes and that she didn't think that we would want her to show up in slippers.That meant he only had his one grandpa there as his other grandmother has passed.

    The photographer lost our list of set shots, and was horrible and trying to place everyone for photos. It was just a mess, and I am still a bit upset about our pictures, even though we did get a few good shots.

    The church had a video set up that we were going to use to tape the ceremony and a friend of mine was going to edit it, but they forgot to even record the ceremony. So, I don't have that either.

    We had our reception at a resort with a water park. One of my H's aunt was running around during cocktail hour trying to find people with extra water park passes. (You got free admission when you were staying at the hotel, which a lot of our guests did) She even asked my H for ours, which he was confused about. Later, while I was waiting in line for the bathroom with my SIL and best friend, one of his cousin's came out in a swim suit. A bunch of his cousin's and his aunt and uncle ditched right after dinner. (BTW the "kids" are 13, 16, 17, 17, & 18) She never did get park passes, and snuck them into the park. Which, btw, closed an hour after we were done with dinner, so they didn't even get to swim that long. Came back in Team Jersey's, tattered t-shirts and shorts, to leave and go home. 

    From my side, my 2 of my uncles got completely smashed and started screaming on the dance floor. One of my uncles later passed out on the back lawn and my brother had to try to coax him to go back to his room. 

    Despite all of this, I'm still really happy with our day. I married the love of my life, and at least we have some good stories to tell our kids some day.

     

  • Our photographer (my sister's SIL) came up to us as we were eating dinner at our reception and told us she was leaving. No reason. Didn't say anything to us prior to the wedding. Thank God my dad's a photographer and he would've taken pictures regardless. Lesson learned: hire a professional for the stuff that matters.

    I think that's it. Really even that's water under the bridge. I married the man I love and everything else was less important.Big Smile

  • our wedding went pretty smoothly except:

    my SIL's somehow didn't get the message that they were supposed to do the gift table guest book...so the little kids didn't get the goodie bags we made for them to stay entertained, our guest book was barely signed, and no one knew what table to place gifts....good thing none of that was a big deal though.

    my MIL saw me for the first time coming up the stairs after pictures as she was coming down, i exclaimed how great she looked and she barely looked at me and said thanks.  ( i think she forgot it was wedding day...haha not....later found out she was pissed about something really stupid)

    i purposefully did not do seating arrangements, but apparently that was horrifying to some people. 

    There was never clear instruction between the event coordinator and the string quartet as to when my father and I would walk down the aisle after the wedding party because they never changed the music! haha so everyone was waiting and there is a great picture of my husband that looks like he thinks i no-showed! haha best part.

     

  • Our reception hall didn't serve the food we chose. Or rather, the "Chicken Marsala" we had during our tasting was not the "Chicken Marsala" served the night of. Not even close. It was gross looking. And when we complained and described what we were served during our tasting, we were told that they "didn't serve anything like that." We only did one tasting at one place. It's not like we were getting mixed up. Pissed me off royally the day of, but it's all good.
  • my little sister/maid of honor spent 3 hours the morning of the wedding at an urgent care center, she said she felt like she was dying...they ran tests for all kinds of things, but nothing came back positive...she trooped through, and you can't tell in the pictures she was feeling pretty rough.

    the coordinator at our venue hounded us for A YEAR for a diagram of where the reception tables needed to be, and the ceremony chairs, and exactly what time everything needed to be set up.

    when we arrived about 30 minutes AFTER the time we told her everything needed to be done...there was literally nothing set up. the chairs and tables were still in the venue's storage area. my bridesmaids and mom set up chairs for the ceremony, and my husband, groomsmen, and father put EVERYTHING up in our reception space. all the table linens, all the decorations, everything.

    my MIL didn't smile in a single photo, had to be told flat out she'd never see any grandchildren if she didn't show up, she wore black pants and a leather jacket, and left, with DH's brother/best man before we were even introduced.

    oh, and my aunt died a month before my wedding, so my mom and grandmother were kind of in a daze the whole day...we didn't even get a picture of that grandmother with me and my parents, because my mom told her to go ahead and go to the reception and eat, and i was too preoccupied with just getting married to even realize until later.

  • My niece/flower girl gave herself a haircut about a week before the wedding...she cut her bangs really jaggedly in some spots and to the skin in other spots.  My SIL called me SOBBING because she felt so badly.  Not a whole lot could be done to make her look right, but I found a darling little crocheted white hat and she wore that.  She looked adorable and sort of rakish and I loved it.

    Forgot to wear my crinoline so my dress was too long...I remembered to put it on after the pictures were taken...so in the pics, my dress looks totally flat.

    My idiot brother insisted on wearing cowboy boots and a cowboy hat. 

    One of DH's friends was eyeing our niece...he was like "Who is THAT?" and DH was horrified.  Our niece was 14 at the time and had just gotten her braces off.  To be fair to DH's friend, she's gorgeous and tall and she did NOT look 14...and when he found out, Friend was suitably horrified LOL

    None of this was an issue on the actual day...and it's funny to think of it now.

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  • imageCuardraro:
    My sister threw me a bachelorette party the Thursday before my wedding and she did not invite my MIL because she is ultra conservative and would have been offended. MIL found out she wasn't invited and told me off the day before the wedding. She told me that if I didn't change the way I acted then DH and I would get divorced and that she would try to bite her tongue when the minister asked if anyone objected the marriage. She is seriously crazy and said tons of other things, but those two things really did hurt my feelings. She had never said one mean word to me in the entire time I've known her, so it def put a damper on the weekend.

    I didn't think FMIL's were usually invited to bachlorette parties. That would definitely put a damper on things.

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  • I was recovering from mono so I was kind of out of it that day... but I got through it pretty well considering, and my overall tiredness prevented me from obsessing over the little details.

     We made programs the morning of but no one had been assigned to pass them out. The words to the hymn being sung were on them, so my mother rushed down the aisle to pass them out (during the ceremony) when it was discovered that no one had a program.

    Unbeknownst to us, two of my relatives were in the beginning stages of getting a divorce. Awkward times.  

    The table decorations weren't really set up the way I had envisioned them, but I didn't get a chance to stop by the site to check them out beforehand, so that's really my fault.

    The best man was arrested the day before the wedding. DH's brother stood in for him (luckily they're about the same size so the suit fit).

    The photographer was kind of wacky and managed to insult both my father (asking him if he had a disability because he didn't want to kneel in the dirt for a picture) and maid of honor (asking if she was pregnant - she wasn't). She also made my bridesmaids sit in strange poses.

    The cake had the wrong filling (probably my mom's fault since she confirmed the cake order). 

    I lost my wallet and could not find it, so we just left for the honeymoon without it (it was found a few days later).

    Overall, though, I survived the day and married my DH, and that's what matters! :)

  • My MOH ordered her dress a size to small to encourage her to lose weight.  She gained weight.  The dress took 4 months to come in and arrived 4 weeks before the wedding.  I had to buy the sample off the shop and have it taken in.  The original dress is currently hanging in my closet.

    I got married abroad so had to pack my dress.  I had to Iron it the night before the wedding as the creases did not fall out like the shop told me they would.

    I was very particular about my flowers, turns out the shop could not source the blush pink roses and opted for fakes.  I fvcking hate fake flowers.

    The 'hair dresser' I hired confessed she was not qualified and made a mess of my MOH and BM hair. I said 'hell no' and had to draft in my SIL to do both of their hair.

    On the day of the wedding, after my father walked me up the isle, my MIL instructed him to sit across from her, beside my mother, he did as he was told leaving my step mother on her own behind them - she was far from delighted.

    The priest was Spanish and although mine and DH names beging with the same letter and have a ring to them, he called both of us the same name lol.

    I am sure there are things I'm forgetting but whatever, it truly was a great day and everyone had a ball.

     

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  • - My MIL would not allow her mother to attend because it was going to be "too much hassle" to get her there

    - My MIL wore a leopard print halter top to my formal church wedding

    - My MIL grinded on the dance floor with her niece's husband, then just his tie.

    - The woman doing my hair thought that when I said "curly" it was just a suggestion b/c she didn't like doing curls.

    - We had a Superbowl themed reception (wedding was the day before the Superbowl).  Our entrance included custom designed break away paper for us to run through.  The two friends we had hold up the paper went too far into the room and we ended up falling on top of my cousin and her son because we were too close to the crowd!

     We had an amazing wedding day!  Aside from ignoring my MIL and her actions, we loved every second.


  • - My MIL grinded on the dance floor with her niece's husband, then just his tie.

    - The woman doing my hair thought that when I said "curly" it was just a suggestion b/c she didn't like doing curls.

    haha. these made me laugh
  • Where's that story about the flower girl who was decapitated in a limo accident when you need it?
  • not at my wedding but at my cousins wedding, her dad, my uncle got sloppy drunk (he is an alcoholic).  He tried to drive home at the end of the wedding, my dad (his brother) tried to stop him and a fist fight ensued in the parking lot of the catering hall....

     

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  • imagerenegade gaucho:
    Where's that story about the flower girl who was decapitated in a limo accident when you need it?

     

    that was such a devistating story

  • Here's a real horror story for you:

    At my cousin's wedding, just as the best man was finishing his toast, we were in mid "Salute!" when BAM a drunken bridesmaid hit the floor! Her knees buckled and she hit the dance floor like a board, with her champagne glass between her face and the floor. The glass shattered, cut up her face horribly, blood everywhere...oh, and her two young children were there to witness this. This is what happens when trashtastic bridesmaids drink for 5 hours straight on an empty stomach.

    What's really scary is I didn't make any of that up.

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  • My mom called me a bridezilla because my pregnant friend who was supposed to read called me and told me she sick and wasn't going to be able to make it to the wedding until 30 minutes after it was supposed to start. I asked my mom what we should do and she told me not to be a bridezilla about it....

    Our uber expensive DJ set up his RV right along the deck where the dinner was served-- all our guests had to walk around it, he parked behind my disabled grandmother (and didn't move until 1 am).

     Right before my father-daughter dance the DJ pulled me aside and told me that he didn't have the song I picked for the dance and I needed to choose a different one (I gave him the song list two months in advance).

    He yelled at my husband and I at the end of the night because someone has stolen his three hundred dollar cowboy hat out of the RV. He also called me every day after the wedding for a week chewing me out about the hat. The hat finally turned up and the true story was: 1. He had given it to a drunk guy to wear around the dance floor and 2. It still had a price tag for $79.99 attached to it. The hat was mailed back, along with a copy of the price tag (go groomsman!)

     

    But, all of those things were pretty minor. It was a great day and I'm married to my best friend!

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  • We had a destination wedding w/ just immediate family invited. My future in-laws insisted on staying at our apartment's "guest room" the night before our flight left. We live 20 min from airport. Here is the list of things that went wrong on the way to our wedding.

    • Told his family many, many times that we are leaving the apt at 4am so we have enough time to get through everything and make the flight (considering such a big group). 
    • Woke his family up at 3am to get ready for leave the apt at 4am so we could get to the park n fly, airport and on the plane by 7am.
    • Family did not let us leave (kept asking for help w/ everything) and was not ready until 5:30am. (Looking back on this, I would have insisted on leaving, no matter how angry DH would have been.)
    • After parking and hauling it up to the ticket booth, we had our tickets at 6:15 for a 7am flight, then turned around to see the LONG line for security.
    • Future SIL forgot to report to the airline that she had a baby and would be putting her on her lap during the flight, so they had to stay behind to fill out the paperwork for that.
    • I called my parents in a panic (w/ tears running down my face) that we would miss the flight. We had to be there for 48 hours in order to get married, and there was only one flight from our location/day. Luckily, my Dad said to get in the "family lane" of security, since we had a baby and DH's sister is in a wheelchair.
    • Told DH to tell his family we are running from security to the gate, because we HAVE to be there for 48 hours in order to get married.
    • We got through, took my shoes off and ran to the gate. The doors closed 3 min after we got on.
    • DH's family missed the plane.
    • Once we arrived, DH's family's luggage (all 8 suitcases) arrived at the destination, so we hauled them all to the hotel for them.
    • DH's family had to wait until the next day to fly out. Once they arrived, they blamed US for not suggesting that they stay at a hotel and use one of the hotel/airport vans to get to the airport on time (like my family did). Then proceeded to blame everyone else for their mistake of being late (long sec. lines, inadequate airline staff, having to actually go through security, AND that planes have to leave on time, to quote: "like it would kill anyone if they waited a few minutes").

    I will never forget that day. I have never received one apology for their actions. Not even an acknowlegement of the fact that we almost missed our flight, which would have ruined everything. We have been married for 18 months, and I still have not fully forgiven them (in my head of course, because they think they did nothing wrong).

    But, the beach wedding was beautiful and I married my best friend. In the end, it all worked out.

  • I had a destination wedding.  My grandparents are divorced and my grandmother has never really gotten over it.  My wedding would be the first time my grandfather, his wife and my grandmother would be in the same room in 27 years.  We saw my bitter grandmother a total of 5 times in 6 days.  She didn't even come to the dinner after my wedding.

    We had a reception at home a month after we got back from the wedding.  About 10 minutes after my new hubby and I walked in, my mother spilled wine down my wedding dress.

     All in all, it was an amazing time in my life.  My husband and I have a wonderful relationship and I'm looking forward to spending our lives together.

  • At 10am there was a huge tent set up outside where my reception was to be..... They said thought youd like to use it since the guests last night did.. Told them no, we planned a reception under the stars not under a tent. They removed it.  As I am walking down the aisle with my father the wind catches my veil and yanks it out of my hair. My father tires to jam it back in...... needless to say happy my SIL the hairdresser was in attendence....  Other than that a perfect day for a wedding.
  • If I included everything, this would be a long post, so I'll just included some of the things that happened on the day.

    -My expensive nails broke on the morning.

    - My expensive hairdresser was on a go slow and took and hour to do Nothing with my hair.

    - My expensive make-up artist 'couldn't find my number' so cancelled two days before the wedding.

    We managed to find a cheaper lady who fixed all of the above in record time and did a brilliant job, but it meantv I didn't get lunch, which meant I was later unable to eat at the reception (due to a stomach problem I have).

    MOH was late getting ready and made us half an hour late to the church.  Someone had parked in the no parking zone at the church designated for the bridal car.

    Ceremony was beautiful, apart for the lady standing up videoing it, when we hadn't wanted a video.  She then got right in my face while we were walking up to cut the cake at the reception and when asked by our DOC refused to stop videoing or delete the tape.

    Young SIL spent much of the reception crying to Big SIL who got totally drunk, verbally confonted me during dinner, practically got naked on the dance floor and made many people she didn't know uncomfortable by talking to them about how much she loves her brother and tried to drag them up on the dance floor. Yelled out during the speechs about how wonderful Her husband is.  Cried in the hallway with her sister. Then went outside infront of the bay window and vomited all over the verandah. 

    DH and I are happily married, but I'm excusing myself from family functions for a little while.

     

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  • We had sent our DJ a list of songs we wanted months in advance. He didn't get any of them, including the songs for the ceremony processional and recessional. We had to wing it with another song. Nobody noticed except for us, but it was disappointing since we'd planned it so hard.

    I had ordered orchids to put on top of the cake, but they never showed. We used roses instead, and it still looked great!

    Other than that, everything was awesome!!!

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  • omg I could go on for days

    My dog died the morning after my wedding

    My SIL freaked out and refused to let her daughters walk down the aisle without her

    I'm a late person, determined to be on time that, and I was until the limo missed the turn. As I directed him to turn in the next driveway (at the chapel of my alma mater) my punk a$$ put their hand in my face, told me to be quiet, and directed him down a series of back roads...we went from 11 minutes early 7 minutes late

    They ran out of filet mignon's, despite the fact that we preordered everyone's dinner request weeks before

     

  • imagevjcjenn1:

    My dog died the morning after my wedding

    That's terrible!!!  Big hugs.

    Our dog was put it hospital a couple of days before the wedding and was knocking on deaths door.  While we were 'celebrating' we didn't even know if she was still alive.  Took weeks and 3/4 of our honeymoon money to get her back home.

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  • Let me begin by saying I would, now, change nothing because it all made for a beautiful wedding day. (But, at the time... no bueno.)

    • My DH had to come help me in the morning to rip off price tags that we thought we had gotten off of the dozens of candleholders to line the aisle & adorn the reception.
    • Our photographer's car broke down on the way & so my FIL had to go get him.
    • We realized the plan to have my older sister accompany me to my hair appointment meant that she couldn't be at the house getting the other girls ready at the same time, so we called my mom to come with me & 2 hours after she said "I'm on my way" (from 2 street lights away) she arrived, late, with coffee & breakfast food in hand while I was sitting in my car, waiting.
    • At the hair appointment, my mom told me she wasn't a fan of the style I chose to do, as I was having my final touches done on it.
    • She then told the hair stylist to quickly wash, cut, & style her hair; though the next appointment was already waiting. *She was nice enough to do it, too*
    • After the hair, we went to go have some breakfast & my mom told me perhaps I "shouldn't eat that bagel." in a very condiscending tone, as usual. She then went on to try to throw at me: "Are you two sure you want to do this? Why now? What's changed?" ... then following that up with a: "Your dad & I didn't work out. Your step-dad & I didn't work out..." speech.
    • My FIL came by to get the guys who were still at the house to go to the location & my dad had already downed a 6-pack & was working on another, not even changed from his regular clothes, either. My FIL voiced his opinions to me as he was walking out the door & they were then running a bit late.
    • The one girl was so nervous, she got sick & so she refused to do what she volunteered to do as the usher, so at the location, nobody really signed the guest book or knew where to sit.
    • A bunch of people who were coming didn't show-but the bill for their food & whatnot did.
    • My dad was drinking from our cocktail hour bar before the ceremony & walked me down the aisle with Lord knows how much in his system at that point. He was so obnoxious & you can hear it all on the wedding videos. Horrible.
    • My Dh .. we really laugh at this one now.. forgot the music for the ceremony & so our friend had to turn his cell phone up all the way & play some random song he had. I still don't even know what it was. My DH was with the Pastor when he realized & he thought he'd ruined the wedding, as I had been searching for nearly 8 months for the proper songs & then, the day of, we had not one of them. He said he almost cried he was so scared. *hee-hee*
    • My MIL wore a neon yellow shawl. Yeah.
    • My DH got confused when it was tiem for the rings because I'd moved my Ering onto my right hand & so you can see in the video, he is obviously confused, going back & forth between my hands a few times. It made everyone laugh though.
    • My MIL had told the Pastor to announce us as "Mr. & Mrs. Patrick (our last name), well known as P.J."  ... PJ..!?!?. we were both surprised & pretty dam upset about that one. Only his family called him PJ- he introduced himself to me as Patrick, so that's all I've ever known him as. He was pretty bent up about this one for awhile, too.
    • My little sister cried so hard & so much that she couldn't even really partake in the ceremony- just stand there & be helped when it came time to walk out after. What a trooper, though.
    • My mom decided to take over as our photographer, pulling me this way & that way. (our photographer didn't take kindly, so he just stepped back, camera down, & let my mom take over because he wasn't going to try & get in the midst of family dynamics.. he was a family friend on my DH side.)
    • In her efforts, she stepped on my dress & we heard a 'rippp' & I told her to stop pulling on me.
    • My mom's ex-hubby #1 (my dad) & their best friend from high school, my mom cheated on my dad & left him for, who ran off & got married to, her-in-the-process-of-being-ex-hubby #2 were there, as well as my godfather, who was the friend of them all in the middle. Awkward.
    • My dad helped himself to a drink from our private champagne bottle, though there were wines on every table & an open bar. He was pretty gone by then.
    • My FIL & his wife (who he cheated on his 1st wife with) were there as was my MIl & her hubby. Awkward.
    • My stepbrother who asked to record our wedding left the video recorder unmanned throughout nearly the entire wedding, so when we lit the unity candle, you see the back of my MOH & the Pastor. The photographer kept cutting in front, as well.
    • Somehow or another, someone made a huge slice mark in the center of the middle tier on our cake. what fun.
    • During speeches, my FIL said he was thinking about getting old embarrassing baby photos of DH, but thought it best not to, as "Sheriff Joe arrested a couple at Wal*Mart for doing that because of child pornagraphy"  ... yeah. wth?
    • My mom was yapping away while we were cutting the cake & getting ready to feed one another a bit & she was screeching about how "You use your fingers! You don't use forks!"  ahh...!!!
    • To top it off, I find out the next morning, after DH & I got up at 5am to take family to the airport, the family we asked to take care of the wedding cake top tier for us & also agreed months before hand) to watch our dogs at our house, well.. we found the top tier later in the day out in the garage, smashed up in a box on the floor near the candleholders. When asked wth happened? we found out that they went to a billiard hall & drank it up good after the reception & all went to a hotel instead. My dad stayed with my mom & spent the night with her. wow. wtf, people. really?!?!? My godfather & his g/f got pulled over leaving the wedding & speeding & somehow, suspected people smuggling came up...!?!? IDK

     

    Regardless.... our wedding was an amazing day. It was a day, between us, full of love & laughter & amazing memories.

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  • imageKathiiy:
    imagevjcjenn1:

    My dog died the morning after my wedding

    That's terrible!!!  Big hugs.

    Our dog was put it hospital a couple of days before the wedding and was knocking on deaths door.  While we were 'celebrating' we didn't even know if she was still alive.  Took weeks and 3/4 of our honeymoon money to get her back home.

    hugs to you too!

  • preface: our wedding being filmed was SUPER important to me b/c dh and i had watched my parents wedding video with them before our wedding and i thought we would do the same with our children one day...make it a sweet tradition.

    so, dh's uncle has really nice film equipment and wanted to get into the film business. the uncle INSISTED that he film the wedding...he would make it so amazing, blahblah. we said great...we would love for you to film it. right before the wedding something happened with the camera so he asked if we had another one he could use. my aunt has a video camera so we were set...nothing fancy...just a video camera. no biggie.

    fastforward to the wedding: he stood there the entire time and looked as if he was filming. same for the reception. we get the tape from my aunt, who took it to a professional to put in video format, and he filmed NOTHING. there is a small part of me walking down but even that is really shaky. filming of the reception consisted of the camera pointed at the ceiling (well, the top of the tent) while he ranted about the dumb tea party.

    this may seem dumb because i have beautiful pictures but i seriously cried and cried and cried when i found out we had no video. i barely talk to the uncle now...even though i know i should get over it.

  • imagemrsbahamas:
    • Once we arrived, DH's family's luggage (all 8 suitcases) arrived at the destination, so we hauled them all to the hotel for them.

    When was this?  Luggage flying without passengers is a major security risk! 

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