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Taken from WC: Chick-Fil-A and Anti-gay?

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Re: Taken from WC: Chick-Fil-A and Anti-gay?

  • imagecritti710:
    So those of you who think abortion should be illegal would still keep going to a restaurant or store if you knew that the company donated money to organizations that fight to maintain a woman's right to choose?

    IMO, comparing abortion and gay rights is on completely different levels. Abortion kills innocent lives, not letting homosexual people get married does not kill anyone. I think a better comparison would be this:

    Those who are against gay marriage, would you shop at Target since they donated 150k to the homosexual community? 

    My answer to this question would be yes, I would (and do) still shop at Target. If it were a store that I rarely shop at, maybe I would choose to avoid it. But if it's a major place I go, I would still go there.

    Another note: when do you (you, in general, not specifically you) decide that one charity a company donates to makes it to where you won't shop there? I'm sure Target, Chick-fil-a, and other places have also donated A LOT of money towards other causes that you would agree with. When do you decide that one donation you don't agree with outweighs all of the other donations and good they are doing? Just a thought...

     (Also, I'm not saying you are wrong for deciding not to go to Chick-fil-a, that's fine with me, and I know it's a choice that everyone can make. I just don't see the big deal. But I know that to you (and others), it is a big deal. I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to tell everyone they need to still go to Chick-fil-a.)


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  • imagefuzzylogic:
    imagestripesandspots:

    I truly think that if you were to pick apart every single organization and their charitable contributions NO ONE would eat or shop anywhere if that is how you base where you spend your money.

    While this may be true, I don't think that anyone should have to compromise their belief system to get some chicken or a lampshade. Some people feel very strongly about their convictions, and they are entitled to shop in a way that reflects them.

    I totally agree with this as well. It's a way to hit 'em where it hurts, however small. I love when I can support local, green businesses rather than huge chains, and I won't buy meat that's not free range and organic, for example. My convictions absolutely influence my spending...while there may not be a completely "innocent" business out there per se, there are better choices than others.   

  • imagebluekid:
    imagefuzzylogic:
    imagestripesandspots:

    I truly think that if you were to pick apart every single organization and their charitable contributions NO ONE would eat or shop anywhere if that is how you base where you spend your money.

    While this may be true, I don't think that anyone should have to compromise their belief system to get some chicken or a lampshade. Some people feel very strongly about their convictions, and they are entitled to shop in a way that reflects them.

    I totally agree with this as well. It's a way to hit 'em where it hurts, however small. I love when I can support local, green businesses rather than huge chains, and I won't buy meat that's not free range and organic, for example. My convictions absolutely influence my spending...while there may not be a completely "innocent" business out there per se, there are better choices than others.   

    This is a large reason why I decided to join the Oklahoma Food Co-op. Coming from a family with a ranching/farming background, it means very much to me that I can support them, and take my business away from Big Beef and the other corrupt agencies that have long been poisoning our public. They may not have an anti-gay agenda, but they do, in my opinion, have an anti-everyone agenda, with the filth that they put in our stores.

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  • imagekayleeb:

    imagecritti710:
    So those of you who think abortion should be illegal would still keep going to a restaurant or store if you knew that the company donated money to organizations that fight to maintain a woman's right to choose?

    IMO, comparing abortion and gay rights is on completely different levels. Abortion kills innocent lives, not letting homosexual people get married does not kill anyone. I think a better comparison would be this:

    Those who are against gay marriage, would you shop at Target since they donated 150k to the homosexual community? 

    My answer to this question would be yes, I would (and do) still shop at Target. If it were a store that I rarely shop at, maybe I would choose to avoid it. But if it's a major place I go, I would still go there.

    Another note: when do you (you, in general, not specifically you) decide that one charity a company donates to makes it to where you won't shop there? I'm sure Target, Chick-fil-a, and other places have also donated A LOT of money towards other causes that you would agree with. When do you decide that one donation you don't agree with outweighs all of the other donations and good they are doing? Just a thought...

     (Also, I'm not saying you are wrong for deciding not to go to Chick-fil-a, that's fine with me, and I know it's a choice that everyone can make. I just don't see the big deal. But I know that to you (and others), it is a big deal. I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to tell everyone they need to still go to Chick-fil-a.)

    In my opinion, your comparison isn't a better one at all, but I don't know that we would ever agree on what would be a good comparison since we will never agree on the nature of abortion or gay marriage.  I also disagree with your comparison because as far as I can tell, Target's donations have been to pride festivals, not organizations fighting for gay marriage.

    As far as deciding that one charity I don't like is enough, to me the issue of gay marriage is an important civil rights issue.  I think in the future we will be embarrassed that it wasn't a right we automatically extended, just like we are now baffled that interracial marriage used to not be allowed.   So yes, it is a make or break issue for me.  I don't want to support companies that are helping fight for what I consider to be a horrible, backward law.

  • I was discussing this thread with H this afternoon and he said he felt that being anti-gay was on the same level as being a racist. I have to agree with him there.
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  • imagefuzzylogic:
    I was discussing this thread with H this afternoon and he said he felt that being anti-gay was on the same level as being a racist. I have to agree with him there.

    Let's be careful with what we're insinuating, here. No need to take this to the next level.  

  • imagebluekid:

    imagefuzzylogic:
    I was discussing this thread with H this afternoon and he said he felt that being anti-gay was on the same level as being a racist. I have to agree with him there.

    Let's be careful with what we're insinuating, here. No need to take this to the next level.  

    I'm sorry you took this as me insinuating anything. It was just what came up in conversation. However, I do think that we are currently in the middle of a civil rights battle with homosexual people that is very similar to the one fought for blacks in the 60's. There are people that are afraid of gay people just like people were afraid of blacks. I'm not saying anyone here feels that way; but we cannot deny the fact that this exists.

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