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Kitchen Remodel Cost

I've always wanted to remodel our kitchen. We need new floors, counter tops, cabinets and would like to remove soffits above our kitchen cabinets. We have a large breakfast bar that looks over our family room that would also need countertop.  We have newish white appliances and would probably go basic with the remodel, laminate counters, etc, because that's typical for our neighborhood and we are not planning to stay more than 8 more years, likely closer to 5. I'm seeing people say they are remodeling a kitchen for $8-10,000. Are you doing the work yourself?My husband doesn't enjoy home improvement projects so that won't be happening here. I'm in Mpls, so MCOL. Any ideas on the cost or where to start? I would like to start a savings account for this specific project.

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  • I think it all depends on how much you want to spend.  When we remodeled we totally gutted the kitchen, and spent about $28K.  We did all of the work ourselves with the exception of an electrician and a plasterer.  We spent $9K on the cabinets alone.  We spent $5K on the tile for the floor.  There were less expensive options, but we wanted our "dream" kitchen. 
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    I've always wanted to remodel our kitchen. We need new floors, counter tops, cabinets and would like to remove soffits above our kitchen cabinets. We have a large breakfast bar that looks over our family room that would also need countertop.  We have newish white appliances and would probably go basic with the remodel, laminate counters, etc, because that's typical for our neighborhood and we are not planning to stay more than 8 more years, likely closer to 5. I'm seeing people say they are remodeling a kitchen for $8-10,000. Are you doing the work yourself?My husband doesn't enjoy home improvement projects so that won't be happening here. I'm in Mpls, so MCOL. Any ideas on the cost or where to start? I would like to start a savings account for this specific project.

    All work, demo and trash pick up will be done by us.  Friends and family will probably help out.  I am not willing to spent twice that much when I know we can do the work.   I see it this way lots of things we don't like to do, but to save money sure we will do it.  If your H does  know how to do a kitchen- I would look into it, you could do a bit every weekend.  Depending on size of kitchen, remodel or whatever could be anywhere from 15k and up-. My parents are having someone redo theirs, basic raised ranch counter tops, cabinets, ceilings, floors, fixing walle- 18k. 

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  • whatever the cost is -- MM thinks you should pay cash! hell, I think I'm going to pay cash for my next car...why not?
  • imagevccake:
    hell, I think I'm going to pay cash for my next car...why not?

    lol that you say this like it's so far-fetched.  Many of us do that too.

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  • imagedexteroni:

    imagevccake:
    hell, I think I'm going to pay cash for my next car...why not?

    lol that you say this like it's so far-fetched.  Many of us do that too.

    Ditto.  You get a better deal no financing and offering real money on the table.  And the benefit not having a bill really is priceless.  Something like a kitchen is not a need unlike a car though. 

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    imagedexteroni:

    imagevccake:
    hell, I think I'm going to pay cash for my next car...why not?

    lol that you say this like it's so far-fetched.  Many of us do that too.

    Ditto.  You get a better deal no financing and offering real money on the table.  And the benefit not having a bill really is priceless.  Something like a kitchen is not a need unlike a car though. 

    That is debatable.

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    imageriderpunk:
    imagedexteroni:

    imagevccake:
    hell, I think I'm going to pay cash for my next car...why not?

    lol that you say this like it's so far-fetched.  Many of us do that too.

    Ditto.  You get a better deal no financing and offering real money on the table.  And the benefit not having a bill really is priceless.  Something like a kitchen is not a need unlike a car though. 

    That is debatable.

    No, no it's not.  As long you can cook in it a new one is not a need.

    OP, I did an entire remodel for 6k (IKEA) and then in our new house we went the custom cabinets, ss appliances, granite route for 20k.  It just depends.  On the 6k kitchen we did the work ourselves. 

    I'd call around an have a few people come and give you estimates.

  • Our remodel sounds very similar to yours, with the exception of SS appliances. Total project cost 10k. But this included flooring for the entire upstairs. Cabinets were about 4k, appliances 3k, counters 1k. The rest went to new sink, lighting, paint, fixtures, electrical, drywall, trim, outlets, and under cabinet and over cabinet lighting.
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  • imagevccake:
    imageriderpunk:
    imagedexteroni:

    imagevccake:
    hell, I think I'm going to pay cash for my next car...why not?

    lol that you say this like it's so far-fetched.  Many of us do that too.

    Ditto.  You get a better deal no financing and offering real money on the table.  And the benefit not having a bill really is priceless.  Something like a kitchen is not a need unlike a car though. 

    That is debatable.

    Sure everything is up for debate...  If you already have a kitchen even if its old, for example ours is 35 years old, yes its nasty and old- but functional- I can cook in it.   In the end if you want to finance why not if you can and can afford the bill.  Personally I don't like having another loan above me holding me back. 

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  • I don't really consider a loan on an investment something that can "hold you back."  Given the rates on loans right now and on how much you can earn by having your savings sit in the bank (nothing), taking out a loan isn't necessarily a bad option.  Further, the standard deduction has creeped up to the point to where it is very difficult to itemize unless you are paying a boat load of interest, so there could be tax benefits to taking out a loan as well.
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  • There was a really good issue of Consumer Reports a couple of years ago that did a "what you get for the money" kitchen redo budget.  Here's the breakdown (based on their costs).

    $5000 - repaint cabinets, new hardware, new paint, cheap appliances, laminate countertops, vinyl tile floor, mostly DIY

    $10,000 - reface cabinets, new hardware, new paint, mid-range appliances, laminate flooring, tile counters, some DIY

    $20,000 - new cabinets, new hardware, new paint, high level appliances, ceramic tile flooring, quartz or marble countertop, tile backsplash, some DIY

    Obviously these are very general prices, and it really depends on what types of materials you want to use and how much you're willing to DIY.  If your cabinets are in good shape, maybe you can paint them to give them a fresh look.  Decide what you want, then price it out and see what you can do yourself, and you'll get a more specific number.

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    I don't really consider a loan on an investment something that can "hold you back."  Given the rates on loans right now and on how much you can earn by having your savings sit in the bank (nothing), taking out a loan isn't necessarily a bad option.  Further, the standard deduction has creeped up to the point to where it is very difficult to itemize unless you are paying a boat load of interest, so there could be tax benefits to taking out a loan as well.

     Yeah but the interest is the only part that is deductable.  So if you are paying very little interest because your loan is so low, the deduction won't account for much.  For what it's worth I would pay cash for something like a kitchen because it's a 'want' and not a 'need', unless the kitchen isn't working at all.

     Side note:  How do you even take out a loan for a kitchen, or a roof, or siding, etc?  Is it just a home equity loan?  Are those easy to get these days?

     

     

  • imagevccake:
    whatever the cost is -- MM thinks you should pay cash! hell, I think I'm going to pay cash for my next car...why not?

    I pay for my remodels and my cars in cash.  This is not weird.

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  • Thanks for weighing in!

    Don't worry, it won't be financed. I'm on board with MM on being conservative with debt. 

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  • Lauren- I really like your blog and have been excitedly waiting to see the IKEA kitchen!
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  • imagedexteroni:

    imagevccake:
    hell, I think I'm going to pay cash for my next car...why not?

    lol that you say this like it's so far-fetched.  Many of us do that too.

    This made me laugh.  Thank you, dex.

  • Our is currently in the $10k range & I expect we'll spend another $800-1k before we're done. So far we've put in new porcelain tile floors, new cabinets + added about twice as much cabinetry, new dishwasher, new solid surface countertops, new plumbing, new electrical, replastering one entire wall and fixing plaster on some other spots.

    We've done all the work ourselves along with one good friend who we paid to help us. We still have to put in a new ceiling and new lighting, and finish refinishing all of the woodwork that we tore off.

  • imagevccake:
    Ditto.  You get a better deal no financing and offering real money on the table.  And the benefit not having a bill really is priceless.  Something like a kitchen is not a need unlike a car though. 

    Someone needs a lesson in needs vs. wants.  If you can cook in your current kitchen your needs are satisfied.

  • Yes, we did it for ~8k, but did most of the work ourselves.

    We hired out for the electrician, plumbing, and the mudding part of the dry wall.

    Electrician = $950

    Plumbing and gas line move = $1300

    Mudding = $250

    We did it in the winter, which is when a lot of these guys are low on work.  So, that saved us money big time because we could wheel and deal.    If you won't be doing any of the work yourself, you probably won't be able to get close to 10k.

    Do you guys have a family member you could pay to help walk your DH through the process?

    For materials our expenses were roughly as follows:

    Cabinets (ikea we put them together ourselves) ~ 3500

    Dry-wall, nails, screws and wood for hanging drywall and soffits ~650

    Electrical wiring ~200 (has copper so it's expensive!!)

    Electrical Outlets/plate covers ~200

    Lighting boxes ~250

    Floor Tile ~200

    Backsplash ~300

    Dishwasher ~500

    Countertop ~0 - We had a friend with extra material and we fabricated it ourselves.  This was a huge cost savings.  If we would have had the countertops professsionally fabricated it would have been ~2000

    Misc ~500 This includes all the stupid little things you can never think of, like extra tools you have to buy, or glue, or grout spacers etc. 

     

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  • Oh, and I forgot my favorite thing.  My overstock deal of my single bowl Kraus sink for $200 delivered to my door.  (this and my dishwasher are my fave things actually and funny enough, I hate doing dishes, these two items just make doing dishes more bareable)

     

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  • Thanks for all of the input. I realize you can save a lot DIY. My H works a lot and I guess we have more money than he has time. I wish we had someone we knew that we could hire because I think that he would do some of it with a lot of help. I will share this information with him and see what he thinks since he has quite a bit of vacation time in the summer.
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  • imageRosieoutlook:
    Lauren- I really like your blog and have been excitedly waiting to see the IKEA kitchen!

    Thank you!  We should be starting soon!!

  • I'll add that a larger chunk of our change than initially estimated went to eating out. Since we gutted everything and had no running water in the kitchen (so no doing dishes) & no microwave. We were eating out or picking up EVERY SINGLE MEAL for 90 days. That was a line item I completely forgot to budget for and we were spending about $800/m on food - which is way above our normal expenses.
  • We have a small kitchen.  We kept our hardwood floors, didn't change the line of the kitchen and didn't need any new appliances. 

    For a basic subway tile backsplash, demo, paint (including patching the dry wall in some places), new cabinets and under cabinet lighting, our total came to  8K.  We shopped around and didn't do a lick of it ourselves.  Our cabinets are all wood and we have one glass front cabinet but they aren't top of the line.

  • also granite was included in that price, realizing now, we did get a very good deal.  We live in a MCOL area.  If I can figure how to post pictures, I will. I have a bunch on my phone but don't know how to upload because the phone is new.

    we did bundle, our total price is 22K because we remodeling both upstairs bathrooms (one gut, one partial), adding crown molding to the whole house, fixing some dry wall issues and painting.  We have a few more weeks left and then it will all be done.  Our house is 37 years old and we wanted these updates. I'll agree, at least for us, it was a want not a need.  We did finance ours.  We hadn't had debt in years (besides our house) but we decided to go for it.  We got a very low interest rate because of our credit scores and we are paying it like a car payment.  So just wanted to disclose that, I'm not MMers to the core.

  • Our kitchen is on the small side 12x10 galley and we definitely are in our "starter" house so we didn't go crazy on our remodel but our budget was:

    2400 - Cabinets, in stock from HD.  Not fantastic quality but they look nice and work just fine. DIY Installation

    950 - Granite - Went to a local granite place and got a clearance slab Price is for slab and installation

    500 - Tile 100 for the tile (clearance from HD) 400 for removal of previous floor and sub floor, new subfloor installation, tile, grout, and sealing.  

    400 -  Backsplash and Grout DIY Install

    100 - New faucet.  

    So 4350 for everything.  We are really happy with the way it came out.  If you shop around you can find deals.  

  • imagemorgie44:

    Our kitchen is on the small side 12x10 galley and we definitely are in our "starter" house so we didn't go crazy on our remodel but our budget was:

    2400 - Cabinets, in stock from HD.  Not fantastic quality but they look nice and work just fine. DIY Installation

    950 - Granite - Went to a local granite place and got a clearance slab Price is for slab and installation

    500 - Tile 100 for the tile (clearance from HD) 400 for removal of previous floor and sub floor, new subfloor installation, tile, grout, and sealing.  

    400 -  Backsplash and Grout DIY Install

    100 - New faucet.  

    So 4350 for everything.  We are really happy with the way it came out.  If you shop around you can find deals.  

     

    Wow!   Tell me more about how long cabinet installation took you and who installed your tile (also HD?)

  • There are a lot of deals right now for kitchen cabinets, countertops, flooring and appliances.

    Cabinets home depot has OK quality unfinished oak cabinets - about $150 or so per linear foot for upper and lowers combined. IKEA and HD also have special order cabinets that can be very competitively priced - both are offering 10 to 20% off now because the remodeling business is pretty slow.  Using granite tiles for counter tops can save some money if you do it your self or find someone who gives you a good price on labor. For some reason i havent ever found someone who gave a really good price AND would do a good job on tile so i have learned to do it on my own.  Finding prefab granite countertops can save a lot of $ too.  countertops are 20 to 40% less then they were a few years ago.  if you hvae standard sized appliances considering using them for a while in your new kitchen and wait until they break/fail before replacing.  Will save a lot of $ and is "greener" then ditching them now just because the dont match.  you can find more tips on saving $ on remodeling at the website www.saveonmyremodel.com also the website www.remodelormove.com has a cool kitchen remodeling cost calculator that doesnt require many details and allows you to select different amounts of labor that you want to hire versus do yourself. 

  • I'd like to suggest, try refacing the kitchen cabinets rather than replacing as you're not going to stay more than 5 years. Also go for laminate counter-tops that are quite inexpensive. Moreover, I suggest not to buy the stuff from any store but go online at any wholesaler or retailer. I just renovated my kitchen 2 months ago and used TheRTAStore.com to buy kitchen cabinets, counter-tops and sink. Flooring was got done by local contractor. 
  • morgie44 said:

    Our kitchen is on the small side 12x10 galley and we definitely are in our "starter" house so we didn't go crazy on our remodel but our budget was:

    2400 - Cabinets, in stock from HD.  Not fantastic quality but they look nice and work just fine. DIY Installation

    950 - Granite - Went to a local granite place and got a clearance slab Price is for slab and installation

    500 - Tile 100 for the tile (clearance from HD) 400 for removal of previous floor and sub floor, new subfloor installation, tile, grout, and sealing.  

    400 -  Backsplash and Grout DIY Install

    100 - New faucet.  

    So 4350 for everything.  We are really happy with the way it came out.  If you shop around you can find deals.  

    My BIL and his wife just bought a coop and are remodeling the kitchen. They found a place for all the materials and the total cost was 5k. That included the cabinets, backsplash, floor tiles, quartz countertops, and sink (very nice high end materials too). I was with them when they got the initial quote of 6k for everything, but because they paid in cash upfront, they got an extra discount. There are deals out there if you shop around ;)

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