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Being a bebe, mad at park and rec board.

I will admit, I get worked up easy so I hope this anger will pass, but right now I am so mad I just spent five minutes on the corner of the street reading every bit of this sign that appeared on my street. I want it gone. My husbands asleep so I can't wine to him, instead I will wine to you guys. So I come home today and there is a rather large sign facing diagonally on my neighbors corner. I go to look at it and it is a map of our whole development with the paths and parks marked out. It is a new fixture intended to be there forever. It is meant to be read by a person walking so it is lower to the ground than a street sign. I do not like this sign placement. The blank side faces the houses and incoming cars, it is in a residential area even though right across the street is a non-residential walking path (a path listed on the map) and less than a block down is a park, it is large and kiddy-wampus. I asked my neighbor how he felt and he said he didn't mind it much...but added it was kind of hard to mow around and maybe wasn't placed in the best area. He is a nice older guy who would not cause trouble so I am sure he would never confront someone about the sign the showed up in his front yard. Anyways I would guess it is a easement situation where the city can use it if they have to, but still, they didn't have to. We have a HOA and I am sure if my neighbor put up the same sign without the "provided by the park and rec board" he would have to take it down. Nothing can be placed along the sidewalk....nothing but the assigned plain black mailboxes. We can't have trees or shrubs within 20ft of it. We can only have garage sale or home sale signs in the yard. Yet here is this big old sign. If you walk the sidewalk out of our neighborhood it is certainly an obstruction. In general I dislike HOAs, but I am pretty sure this is the reason some people like them. This was not brought to our HOA. Looking at the map there appears to be five other signs but there is a lack of them around the western trails and parks.....wonder if this had anything to do with the more active HOAs on that side of the development, the side where all the $650,000 + homes are.
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Re: Being a bebe, mad at park and rec board.

  • Written on a iPad...looks like the paragraphs and spell check didn't hold. Sorry.
  • I think you are overreacting. 
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  • Sorry - another vote for over-reaction.  Your neighbor who has it in his yard doesn't seem to care and neither should you.
  • I think it sounds like a nice sign. Another vote for overreacting.
  • I don't understand this at all.
  • imagemrsdawnmarie:
    I don't understand this at all.

    I was thinking the exact same thing.

  • Unless the sign is billboard sized and sitting 4' from your front door then I don't see what the big deal is.  Huh?

    Take a deep breath and move on.

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  • I don't really understand it either. Can you post a pic of it?

    Are you more upset at the placement of the sign? What the sign says? The fact that the HOA didn't alert you that there was a sign being placed?

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  • Yeah I think you are getting way too worked up about this.
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  • Ditto everyone else. Its just a sign...relax.

    If anything its a sign of all of the good things in your neighborhood...if it were me, I think I'd be proud of it... 

  • imageaimkins:

    I don't really understand it either. Can you post a pic of it?

    Are you more upset at the placement of the sign? What the sign says? The fact that the HOA didn't alert you that there was a sign being placed?

     

    Ditto. I want a picture to see how big it is. I mean, I guess I could understand going "hm. that's annoying" and forgetting about it.  But, what's the big deal? Does it obstruct your view of something? 

  • It is the placement that bothers me?.and actually it also bothers me I didn?t know about it.

    The sign is a nice thought and a good sign to have in a public park, by all the other informational signs meant to be read by pedestrians. It is not a billboard size sign; it is a long rectangle sized sign maybe two and a half to three times larger than a stop sign.  They placed this one on the corner of a residential lot, the corner closet to my neighbor?s door, but the other signs they placed in parks, along the non-residential paths or in one case, on the back corner of a corner of a lot (in this case, there was no side walk across the street).  On the other side of the street from where they put this sign is a walking path and a lake so I suppose you could say it obstructs my view of the lake from the porch (although, from my porch it is not big enough not to look around).  It is large enough to obstruct the view of the lake for anyone walking down the side walk because they would be looking at the backside of it straight on and it placed at their eye level.  I cannot imagine that this was a thought out placement, why didn?t they move it less than a block down the street on the park corner (intersection of lots of paths) or across the street on the ?around the lake? path where the HOA/City owns a strip of board walk to decorate and allow for a buffer zone to the lake?.unless of course they didn?t want to cheapen the entrance to the ?on the lake? homes.  There are no signs in the more expensive areas of the development.

    My neighbor likely cares since he said, it was hard for him to mow around (he is older and has a rider, he keeps they yard up well and I swear mows no less than every other day) and that he doesn?t know why they would put it on the front corner of someone?s house.   As far as it goes for resale, I wouldn?t like it on my lot?it is eye level and in the view from everywhere in his yard.  I am next to him so it is the same for my front yard, except I am farther away so the sign is smaller on the back drop.

    I am mad I didn?t know because I am the treasurer of the HOA.  The city required our development to be governed by HOAs ? we couldn?t eliminate them if we wanted to.  It is required that home owners get approval from the HOA for any new fixtures they add to the outside of their homes, I guess it is not required of the city who so badly wanted the HOA in the first place.

     

  • Go spray paint it with "I like tits"  Maybe they will remove it.
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  • Ha. When I 16 I ran into a sign in my car and tore it out of the ground. It took them a long time to replace it. Last night I was thinking if I knew any bad drivers who might turn the corner a little too fast. 

    Somebody ran into the sign off the main street - so here is hoping.

     

  • Have you contacted the city and/or Park and Rec board to ask them about moving it?
  • I plan to.   I talked to my neighbor, and sent a couple emails to the HOA in the area to see if anyone was asked about it.

    I do not think they will want to though, there is a  "you are here" arrow on it. 

  • Even after that fairly long winded explanation I'm still failing to see what the big deal is.  If anyone should be all up in arms about this, shouldn't it be the neighbor? 

    Did the HOA pay for it?  I'm failing to see how being treasurer of the HOA relates to this at all unless it was funded out of "your" wallet...?

    It sounds like they might have put it in a silly spot and it might "miss the market", but still...that's really no big whoop.

    Yep...I still don't get it.  

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  • I was going to find a picture of a tiny sign in someone's yard and write "I like tits" on it with MS Paint.  But then I got lazy.  I'm getting old.

     

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  • imageMelindaFelinda:

    I was going to find a picture of a tiny sign in someone's yard and write "I like tits" on it with MS Paint.  But then I got lazy.  I'm getting old.

     

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    the Palin sign seemed appropriate.

     

  • imageSteph0871:
    imageMelindaFelinda:

    I was going to find a picture of a tiny sign in someone's yard and write "I like tits" on it with MS Paint.  But then I got lazy.  I'm getting old.

     

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    the Palin sign seemed appropriate.

     

    Awesome.  I nominate you to take over all of the future photo editing.

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  • imageSteph0871:

    the Palin sign seemed appropriate.

     

    BWUAHAHAHAHAHA.

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  • AND! I got the PIP to work! I might be more excited about that. haha

    p.s. Picnik? my favorite thing ever. 

  • The whole HOA part is because if any homeowners themselves put these signs up, it would have needed to be sent to the HOA with what they wanted to put up and where they were going to put it. I am on the board so I am one of the people that these requests get sent.  I guess the city can put them up without doing that.

    I dont like the sign...maybe I shouldnt care, but I do.  So I am going to see if there is anything I can do. 

  • So is the sign in the public right-of-way?  Like the same one that the city likely owns or has an easement to use for particular purposes? 

    The state and cities have laws about who controls them and what can and cannot happen on them and most likely their laws trump your HOA rules.  You might want to do a little research into the regulations before you call so you can be well informed.  I'm guessing a well reasoned, logical argument that has some basis in the law will be better received than a rambling rant that seems out of proportion to the situation.

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  • imageSteph0871:
    imageMelindaFelinda:

    I was going to find a picture of a tiny sign in someone's yard and write "I like tits" on it with MS Paint.  But then I got lazy.  I'm getting old.

     

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    the Palin sign seemed appropriate.

     

    You're my favorite. The end. 

  • imagejennyk213:

    So is the sign in the public right-of-way?  Like the same one that the city likely owns or has an easement to use for particular purposes? 

    The state and cities have laws about who controls them and what can and cannot happen on them and most likely their laws trump your HOA rules.  You might want to do a little research into the regulations before you call so you can be well informed.  I'm guessing a well reasoned, logical argument that has some basis in the law will be better received than a rambling rant that seems out of proportion to the situation.

    agreed!
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  • I still want to see a pic of it.

    As a fellow HOA homeowner, I'm curious if I'd be upset about it.

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  • I'm snarky today and can't think of anything nice to say.  I refrained from writing what I really think, but to state it nicely: I wish I had time to get worked up over something so trivial

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  • This is the lamest thing I've ever seen anyone get worked up about on this board.  And the fact that you're even questioning whether this can actually be done or not is ridiculous.  You do know that the City and County for that matter will trump any HOA any day of the week right???  And that even though your HOA has rules against placement of signs in your yard for personal reasons, that you could go to the City and petition that and if the City says its ok then there's nothing the HOA can do right???

    I'm just checking because you make it sound like the HOA is the end all be all and they really aren't, they're just there to make the neighborhood look pretty by enforcing stupid rules like keeping your trash cans out of sight, picking up your dog crap, and not leaving junk all over your yard.

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