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I need HELP with my momma's boy fiance!!!

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Re: I need HELP with my momma's boy fiance!!!

  • An 18 year old noncom makes no money.

    Keep that in mind.

  • Since nobody else seems to be nice enough to tell you what you want to hear, here goes:

     

    You *do* know everything about life at 18. Teenage love will conquer all. The wedding band *does* have a secret magic that will suddenly turn your normal 18-year-old kid of a FI into a mature, responsible, independent adult--in an instant. And all the mature, responsible,  independents adults in your life and responding to this thread just don't know you and your FI and exactly how strong and real your teenage love is.

     

    there, is that what you wanted to hear? Hate to tell you, it's all lies.

  • imageVelvetshady:

    Since nobody else seems to be nice enough to tell you what you want to hear, here goes:

     

    You *do* know everything about life at 18. Teenage love will conquer all. The wedding band *does* have a secret magic that will suddenly turn your normal 18-year-old kid of a FI into a mature, responsible, independent adult--in an instant. And all the mature, responsible,  independents adults in your life and responding to this thread just don't know you and your FI and exactly how strong and real your teenage love is.

     

    there, is that what you wanted to hear? Hate to tell you, it's all lies.

    Yes  This.

  • imageshelovesfrodo:

    I understand that, economically, times are tough, and sometimes young couples need lots of help from their parents; however, they should not be so dependent on parents that they have little or no need for each other (besides sex & peer-group amusement- that will never last long).

    What? If I don't financially need my SO then the only thing we have is sex and amusement, and it will never last? (I think you're forgetting about, well, everything else that bonds two people together).

     Are you actually saying that the only way I can ensure that our love and commitment stays strong is to need his money and vice versa? 

    Please explain. This would actually be hilarious if you weren't giving this advice to an impressionable and naive 18 year old. 

  • imageTarponMonoxide:

    An 18 year old noncom makes no money.

    Keep that in mind.

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  • imageTarponMonoxide:

    An 18 year old noncom makes no money.

    Keep that in mind.

    Plus, an 18-year-old enlisted private is often not even authorized to take a dependent with him on many tours. Obviously when he is deployed, PP will not be going with him, but neither will she be allowed to go for short-term training (of which there are many when one first enlists) or to certain non-combat posts, such as Korea, or any post at which he has to live in barracks... during which time she will be back to living in MIL's house, unless she wises up and decides to further her own education...

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  • imagegioia di vivere:

    imageshelovesfrodo:

    I understand that, economically, times are tough, and sometimes young couples need lots of help from their parents; however, they should not be so dependent on parents that they have little or no need for each other (besides sex & peer-group amusement- that will never last long).

    What? If I don't financially need my SO then the only thing we have is sex and amusement, and it will never last? (I think you're forgetting about, well, everything else that bonds two people together).

     Are you actually saying that the only way I can ensure that our love and commitment stays strong is to need his money and vice versa? 

    Please explain. This would actually be hilarious if you weren't giving this advice to an impressionable and naive 18 year old. 

    Oops! Didn't mean for anyone to take my meaning to be only finances, although I see now how you came to that conclusion. I do think that couples should view both incomes as "theirs" vs. "mine & yours," but that's another topic for discussion.

    What is even more important is the emotional need for each other. I don't mean a babyish "needy," mindset, either. If either marriage partner finds their emotional comfort primarily in their parent/parents, (i.e. heat-to-hearts, etc.) then there is no way that a marriage can grow or succeed. If FI is confiding more in mommy than his supposed bride, then do you really think he'll stop after the wedding? Husbands and wives need to find their greatest emotional fulfillment in each other. That's not to say that friends & family have no place, but your spouse really should be your no.1 confidant.

  • imageCheezeFace:

    Advice:

    Go to school.  Live in the dorms.  Hate your first weird-o roommate but eventually learn to get along with them.  Graduate.  Get your first apartment with your best friend (See weird-o roommie from above).  Furnish apartment with stolen (but eventually returned) milk crates from the elementary school.  Have your heart broken.  I mean real broken - not HS BS broken.  Get your first real job.  Figure out who you are.

    Then think about getting married. 

    You will change so much from the 18 yo you are today that in 10 years you won't recongnize yourself.

    But you won't listen. Because you are young and self-righteous and life hasn't kicked your @ss with any actual problems yet.

    People here aren't being mean - maybe, just maybe, they are wise.

     

     

    how much more perfectly could this have been put? seriously. little girl of 18: you will exactly NOT listen to any person's advice on here, you will exactly make the wrong decisions, and you will EXACTLY look back on these posts and others' advice including your parents and realize how right everyone was...and how wrong you were. but that is life....enjoy it! 

  • imageMaybride2:
    The problem is most definitely that you're too young and too immature. The fact that you can't see or admit that is further proof of your immaturity.

    Look, if you two are meant to be together, than there's no harm in waiting. H and I met at 18 but were 25 before we got married; 25, and finished with our undergrad educations, in career track jobs, and living on our own with no parental support.

    As nearly everyone has said - get a fuuking job, get your own GD apartment, and try living as an adult for at least a year or two before making any marriage decisions. Stop playing house in your boyfriend's mommy's and daddy's house, complaining that your teenage boyfriend didn't take you to the mall to buy you dinner at the food court and a new necklace from Claires.

     

    Bahahahaha!   Yes

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  • imagenyc artist:

    Gotta agree with ALL of the ladies on here. If I married the boy I was with when I was 18 I would be completely miserable right now!! And would have never have met current awesome guy!

    You think you know what you want, but trust me...you don't yet. There is so much more that you need to experience first. In terms of becoming independent and learning who YOU are, learning what qualities you want in your partner, and learning how to deal with problems such as these. It will come in time. What's the rush? Maybe your boyfriend is "the one", or maybe he's one of these experiences that you will have that will help you learn more about yourself. (Also... get the hell out of his mom's house if you don't like the lady!!!)

    There's nothing wrong with marrying your HS sweetheart...when you've gotten a few years of life experience under your belt.  MH and I started dating our senior year and got married at 23.  Still young, but it was worlds away from 18. 

    I truly believe that one of the reasons we were able to stay together is because we were able to have our space to grow and develop into adults without the pressure of forever.  We went to college and lived on our own (with roommates) before we lived together and then got married.

    A few years will make a significant difference, even if you can't see it now.  If you were "meant to be" then you'll still be meant to be in a few years.

    With all that being said...getting married will absolutely NOT make dealing with issues any easier.  It doesn't fix anything.  It is very important that you realize that.

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  • Even if you weren't young, the ladies on here would be telling you that you don't have a MIL problem, but you have a FI problem.  Unless he continually takes your side and steps up communication to his mom which lets her know that she is important, but you come first then honestly... he will always value her above you and the advice would be MOVE ON. 

    And at 18, to get a parent to treat you as an adult is really hard.  And if your parents kicked you out because you are with him... I know it just drove you further into his arms, but are you really, really sure that this is the guy that you want to be 18 with, and 36 and 56 and 86???  Are you sure that you really want this military lifestyle???  Think long term that is what everyone is begging you to do.

    Most of us have been through many years of life and experience and no one means to belittle you.  We remember being in your shoes.  Hell, at 18 I dated a loser that my mom refused to recognize and we broke up a few months later, THANK GOODNESS.  I didn't know myself enough to know what I wanted in a lifetime partner and only knew that I wanted someone to date right then.

    Honestly, I met my now DH at 23 and we dated 6 years before getting married, but lived together for 4 and a half.  We lived on our own.  I had been through enough to know a really good man when I saw one.  And I knew that he supported me above and beyond anyone else... especially to his parents when push came to shove. 

    You are so young and the world is out there waiting for you.  Go experience life for yourself and stay together... just because you aren't married, doesn't mean you aren't choosing to spend your life with him right now.  And that way you can make sure that he and this life is what you REALLY want for yourself.  Why rush???

    Jill * Married to Steven 11/9/03 * DS Samuel 4/4/05* DS #2 Jeffrey 6/13/2009
  • wow can u be harsher?? ugh unless u know this couple this is not helpful (get a life)
  • imageMrsDexx:
    wow can u be harsher?? ugh unless u know this couple this is not helpful (get a life)

    Telling her to wait until they can afford to live on their own?  Until she has had a college education?  Until they can afford to support themselves is harsh?  I call it reality, welcome to it!  Children should not get married, regardless of the specific couple.

  • imageJillShari:

    Even if you weren't young, the ladies on here would be telling you that you don't have a MIL problem, but you have a FI problem.  Unless he continually takes your side and steps up communication to his mom which lets her know that she is important, but you come first then honestly... he will always value her above you and the advice would be MOVE ON. 

    And at 18, to get a parent to treat you as an adult is really hard.  And if your parents kicked you out because you are with him... I know it just drove you further into his arms, but are you really, really sure that this is the guy that you want to be 18 with, and 36 and 56 and 86???  Are you sure that you really want this military lifestyle???  Think long term that is what everyone is begging you to do.

    Most of us have been through many years of life and experience and no one means to belittle you.  We remember being in your shoes.  Hell, at 18 I dated a loser that my mom refused to recognize and we broke up a few months later, THANK GOODNESS.  I didn't know myself enough to know what I wanted in a lifetime partner and only knew that I wanted someone to date right then.

    Honestly, I met my now DH at 23 and we dated 6 years before getting married, but lived together for 4 and a half.  We lived on our own.  I had been through enough to know a really good man when I saw one.  And I knew that he supported me above and beyond anyone else... especially to his parents when push came to shove. 

    You are so young and the world is out there waiting for you.  Go experience life for yourself and stay together... just because you aren't married, doesn't mean you aren't choosing to spend your life with him right now.  And that way you can make sure that he and this life is what you REALLY want for yourself.  Why rush???

     I absolutely agree with everything said here.  At 18, you have so much ahead of you.  There should be no rush for you to get married.  If he really is "the one", he will still be "the one" in a few years, after you have both had time to grow individually and together.  I honestly think if you get married now, you will regret it sooner rather than later. 

    I was madly in love with the person I dated at 18 and just knew I was going to marry him.  Of course, it didn't happen, and he broke up with me shortly after I went to college. But it was a great thing because I was able to experience everything a young adult should.  When I met my now DH, I knew I was going to marry him 6 months into the relationship, but at 21 I felt no rush at all.  On our wedding day we had been together 4 years, lived together 3, were homeowners, and had a decent savings account.  IMO, it makes married life much easier and happier when things are taken care of prior to walking down the aisle.

    Seriously, don't wish your life away before you even have the chance to live it.

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  • I'm really AM trying to be helpful here.

     You should wait to get married until you're mature enough to understand the advice given to you...ACTUALLY understand it, not just think we're a bunch of old, bitter hags.

     

    I'm not that much older than you are.  I'm 23.  I can tell you that I am a completely different person now than I was at 18.  You really cannot begin to understand how much college, being financially independent, and living as an adult WILL change who you are as a person.  

    If you want to be "engaged", then fine...be "engaged".  But don't get married at LEAST until you have a 4-year college degree and SOME kind of marketable skills...unless you want your career to involve saying "Do you want fries with that?" and relying on a man to keep a roof over your head and heat in your apartment.

  • imageshelovesfrodo:
    imagegioia di vivere:

    imageshelovesfrodo:

    I understand that, economically, times are tough, and sometimes young couples need lots of help from their parents; however, they should not be so dependent on parents that they have little or no need for each other (besides sex & peer-group amusement- that will never last long).

    What? If I don't financially need my SO then the only thing we have is sex and amusement, and it will never last? (I think you're forgetting about, well, everything else that bonds two people together).

     Are you actually saying that the only way I can ensure that our love and commitment stays strong is to need his money and vice versa? 

    Please explain. This would actually be hilarious if you weren't giving this advice to an impressionable and naive 18 year old. 

    Oops! Didn't mean for anyone to take my meaning to be only finances, although I see now how you came to that conclusion. I do think that couples should view both incomes as "theirs" vs. "mine & yours," but that's another topic for discussion.

    What is even more important is the emotional need for each other. I don't mean a babyish "needy," mindset, either. If either marriage partner finds their emotional comfort primarily in their parent/parents, (i.e. heat-to-hearts, etc.) then there is no way that a marriage can grow or succeed. If FI is confiding more in mommy than his supposed bride, then do you really think he'll stop after the wedding? Husbands and wives need to find their greatest emotional fulfillment in each other. That's not to say that friends & family have no place, but your spouse really should be your no.1 confidant.

    Kudos to you for being pleasant and civil while some of these women are being so openly demeaning. It's difficult to 'prove' yourself as a rational and thoughtful person to a group that doesn't want to accept you because of your age. Having said that - your ticker indicates that you've been married for 6 months. Six months means very little in the course of a marriage, so there is a practical aspect to the disbelief being tossed your way.

    I've been there. I was married at 18. It didn't work out for us, but our situation was not ideal. Even so, I was an intelligent and hardworking mother who ran my own household and made a 4.0 GPA in college. It is possible to be responsible at 18. It is possible to do the right things regardless of age or circumstance, just as it is possible to make the wrong choices and end up in a FUBAR situation at any age.

    Let the haters hate. If you're happy, healthy and well, then I wish you continued happiness and prosperity regardless of how old you are.

     

    As for the OP, well. Given your post, your best bet would most likely be to put this wedding on hold indefinitely. Give yourself some time to mature and grow as an individual. Repair your relationship with your family, if it can be repaired. Pursue the education or career that makes you happy and can provide for your needs. If you love your fiance, you have plenty of time to nourish your relationship and allow it to evolve into something that will truly last a lifetime.

  • imageCheezeFace:

    Advice:

    Go to school.  Live in the dorms.  Hate your first weird-o roommate but eventually learn to get along with them.  Graduate.  Get your first apartment with your best friend (See weird-o roommie from above).  Furnish apartment with stolen (but eventually returned) milk crates from the elementary school.  Have your heart broken.  I mean real broken - not HS BS broken.  Get your first real job.  Figure out who you are.

    Then think about getting married. 

    You will change so much from the 18 yo you are today that in 10 years you won't recongnize yourself.

    But you won't listen. Because you are young and self-righteous and life hasn't kicked your @ss with any actual problems yet.

    People here aren't being mean - maybe, just maybe, they are wise.

     

     

    This reminds me of Baz Luhrman's "Wear Sunscreen" - some great advice!

    Live on your own- by yourself- before you move in with any "man". You need to learn about you, and what you like- not what everybody tells you you like or what you should like, etc.

    You need to go to school, get a job, and realize what it is like to live outside of the umbrella of family- it is a vastly different world when you take responsibility for your own actions and for your own life.

    Don't be offended by these ladies- they are speaking the truth.  If I'd married my high school sweetheart (whom I dated for 4 years), I would be a miserable person. We are two completely different people now- and that's what happens in your late teens /early 20s- when you leave home, you learn about you- and you grow.  You have a lot of growing to do- don't jump into this.

    Don't worry about tomorrow. After all, today is the tomorrow that you worried about yesterday. Take each day as it comes...one at a time. Midnight Baking Adventures Blog
  • imageMegPlusFive:
    imageshelovesfrodo:
    imagegioia di vivere:

    imageshelovesfrodo:

    I understand that, economically, times are tough, and sometimes young couples need lots of help from their parents; however, they should not be so dependent on parents that they have little or no need for each other (besides sex & peer-group amusement- that will never last long).

    What? If I don't financially need my SO then the only thing we have is sex and amusement, and it will never last? (I think you're forgetting about, well, everything else that bonds two people together).

     Are you actually saying that the only way I can ensure that our love and commitment stays strong is to need his money and vice versa? 

    Please explain. This would actually be hilarious if you weren't giving this advice to an impressionable and naive 18 year old. 

    Oops! Didn't mean for anyone to take my meaning to be only finances, although I see now how you came to that conclusion. I do think that couples should view both incomes as "theirs" vs. "mine & yours," but that's another topic for discussion.

    What is even more important is the emotional need for each other. I don't mean a babyish "needy," mindset, either. If either marriage partner finds their emotional comfort primarily in their parent/parents, (i.e. heat-to-hearts, etc.) then there is no way that a marriage can grow or succeed. If FI is confiding more in mommy than his supposed bride, then do you really think he'll stop after the wedding? Husbands and wives need to find their greatest emotional fulfillment in each other. That's not to say that friends & family have no place, but your spouse really should be your no.1 confidant.

    Kudos to you for being pleasant and civil while some of these women are being so openly demeaning. It's difficult to 'prove' yourself as a rational and thoughtful person to a group that doesn't want to accept you because of your age. Having said that - your ticker indicates that you've been married for 6 months. Six months means very little in the course of a marriage, so there is a practical aspect to the disbelief being tossed your way.

    I've been there. I was married at 18. It didn't work out for us, but our situation was not ideal. Even so, I was an intelligent and hardworking mother who ran my own household and made a 4.0 GPA in college. It is possible to be responsible at 18. It is possible to do the right things regardless of age or circumstance, just as it is possible to make the wrong choices and end up in a FUBAR situation at any age.

    Let the haters hate. If you're happy, healthy and well, then I wish you continued happiness and prosperity regardless of how old you are.

     

    Wow. Thank you! It has been a little difficult to get in on the boards, due to my age, or rather, common view thereof. But I'm up to the challenge! You're right, it's possible to be responsible at 18, just as much as it's possible to be irresponsible at 35. Thanks for a vote of confidence!

  • in her defense, i got married at 22 to a soldier and we lived in his father's house (we paid all the utilities and groceries though, so it was more like he was staying with us) until we got our own place. being young and not totally on your feet doesn't mean it's a TERRIBLE idea.

    however, momma's boys are not marriage material. not to the extent this gentleman is. and living with your mother in law is almost ALWAYS a bad idea.

    remember, always, through your whole life, that your mother loves you more than life itself and when she puts her foot down about something, it's for your best interest. she's been there, she's lived a lot more than you have, she knows and she's trying to protect her little girl. i say, listen to your mom and do what SHE says. because no stranger on the internet knows you a quarter as well as momma does.

    just some advice.  

    i hate my tickers, but they won't go away...
  • Holy crap, obviously no one wants to give me advice that doesn't involve me dumping my fianc?. I don't understand it, is that how you all solve your problems? By running? Maybe you all wanted to spend ten years of your life alone, but I want to spend it with him. Does no one believe that eighteen year olds can be in love? If I can fall in love when I?m thirty why can't it happen now? Why would I leave a good guy just because we're young? I do plan on going to college and getting a job. I plan to do a lot with my life and contrary to popular belief being married won't stop me. Maybe I should stop asking you all for advice because you didn't really help. This actually sucked. You're not being wise; you're being spiteful and nasty. Thanks anyways.

  • Thankyou shelovesfrodo, you're probably the only one helping. We are moving out in a couple months. I'm still going to college, things will still go as i had planned them in the first place but i'll just be married. We have the money situation under control. All of our bills will be taken care of seeing as we're going to be living on base. Plus i'm going to go to trade school after we get stationed somewhere(less than two months) and i'll have my job after that. We have no other problem, this is the only one really. Thanks!
  • You are not too young... most of the women who give advice are older but odds are their marriage failed so don't listen to them. Tell you F how you feel....Everything will be great and you will have a beautiful marriage. Just because you are younger than them gives them no right to say you are too young to do anything. Keep God in your heart and in your relationship.
  • I am only 23 and not an old bitter woman. I am a newlywed, but just like others have told you, MH and I Have been together for years and lived together for 2. He has been in the military the whole time. I think you should really take some time to consider if military life is for you. I know you want to spend the rest of your life with him but you dont have to get married to spend your life with him. Trust me deployments are not fun. I could never have made it through a deployment without the support of my family and it seems you will not have that support. I am not saying to leave him but you should see what this life is like before you jump in head first. It is much harder than you could possible imagine! Also living together on your own is a hard adjustment at first, I know you are living together now but it is much different when you are on your own and expected to take care of all the household responsibilities plus work full time and go to college 15 hours a week (that was my life when we moved in together.) Its hard work and exhausting!! Much harder than I think you realize!

    Secondly, your FI is supposed to be one of your best friends and someone you confide in. If you can't tell him something without him running to mommy dearest and telling her that is a problem. MH is close with his Mom, they talk daily. But he would never tell her what we argue about or things about my family that I told him in confidence. To me that shows he has very little respect for you in general.

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