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s/o Gay marriage arguments that work

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Re: s/o Gay marriage arguments that work

  • imageMarquisDoll:

    It's tricky, because the main reason for being against gay marriage is based in religion.  And let me tell you, nothing makes me more defensive than someone who doesn't share my faith using it to argue against me.  That is sure to make one defensive as no matter the intent, it comes off as mocking.  So, if you're not the same religion, don't use religious reasoning (unless your intent is to mock and not convince).

    I agree, but I would add that I don't want others trying to convince me that my religion's teaching is wrong...that my religion's interpretation of the Bible is wrong.  If gay marriage isn't supposed to be a religious issue, then no one should be trying to convince me that my religion is wrong. 

    I think Pesca that what resonates the most with me is focusing on civil rights....but I'm still working through this. 

    And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this Rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.
  • 2V, I don't know that anyone is trying to convince you your religion is wrong.  For my part, I posted the blog from my pastor because I found it fascinating that there is so much room for interpretation in the seven verses that mention homosexuality.  I think that is the beauty of religion, is that there are many different forms -- and people can find the one that works for them.  Not all Catholic churches teach that homosexuality is wrong.  In fact, one of my good gay friends is very active in his Catholic church.  If the only reason you believe that is because your church says it is wrong -- and if that is creating a huge internal struggle for you -- perhaps being open to the idea that theirs isn't the only valid interpretation of the Bible could help you resolve your internal struggle. 

    One of the reasons I stopped going to church for about ten years is that I couldn't resolve this very issue.  It was only when I went to a church that had a very simple sign outside -- "All People Are Welcome Here" -- and I learned that they had an active GLBT group that I was able to go back and see that not all churches condemned it.  The pastor at my church refuses to only pastor to some members of the community.  He works to include *everyone*, regardless of sexuality, race, etc.  As a result, there is a vibrant and diverse community where we all learn from one another and are enriched by others' experiences.  And it's very encouraging to me that there are many folks who have managed to reconcile the Bible with homosexuality.


  • imagesoprano87:

    2V, I don't know that anyone is trying to convince you your religion is wrong.  For my part, I posted the blog from my pastor because I found it fascinating that there is so much room for interpretation in the seven verses that mention homosexuality.  I think that is the beauty of religion, is that there are many different forms -- and people can find the one that works for them.  Not all Catholic churches teach that homosexuality is wrong.  In fact, one of my good gay friends is very active in his Catholic church.  If the only reason you believe that is because your church says it is wrong -- and if that is creating a huge internal struggle for you -- perhaps being open to the idea that theirs isn't the only valid interpretation of the Bible could help you resolve your internal struggle. 

    One of the reasons I stopped going to church for about ten years is that I couldn't resolve this very issue.  It was only when I went to a church that had a very simple sign outside -- "All People Are Welcome Here" -- and I learned that they had an active GLBT group that I was able to go back and see that not all churches condemned it.  The pastor at my church refuses to only pastor to some members of the community.  He works to include *everyone*, regardless of sexuality, race, etc.  As a result, there is a vibrant and diverse community where we all learn from one another and are enriched by others' experiences.  And it's very encouraging to me that there are many folks who have managed to reconcile the Bible with homosexuality.


    Thanks Soprano.  I'm not sure how to respond to this because, for me, I want to attend a Catholic church that teaches what the Church officially teaches....not the local priest's personal interpretation.  The official Church teaching does not teach to hate homosexuals but it does teach that homosexual acts are wrong based upon the Bible and Sacred Tradition (a major difference between Roman Catholicism and most Christian denominations).  I am not looking to find a different teaching or to get into a religious discussion on homosexuality.  I am looking to better understand the official one..the one in the Catechism.  

     

    And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this Rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.
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