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Feeling ignored and pregnant

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Re: Feeling ignored and pregnant

  • This thread makes me sad and sick that people are really this racist.

    Since my industry puts in the systems that 'press 1 for English' let me explain something for you all.

    By pressing 1 for English the system is directing calls to call handlers that are better able to service customers who speak a different language. This means that your own wait times will be far shorter, it will cost less to operate the contact centre and in turn make the service cheaper so customers don't pay higher fees. It's not only really helpful for a multiculural customer base but more efficient and therefore cheaper.

    Large companies have multicultural customer bases - those of us living in Europe know this all too well - sometimes it can be press 7 for English! And when you are in the reverse situation, i.e. phoning a foreign company, you appreciate hearing that option.

    Stop hating on this woman, focus on the advice she needs to get. And remember, if English is not her first language, then chances are 'babydaddy' is something she picked up from a local...

    To the OP: it's unlikely you will get any more money out of the father of your daughter, so it is probably time to move on. I wish you all the best in doing so.

  • When did the US designate English as its only language? Did I miss that?
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  • imageimoan:

    I don't have a "baby daddy" because I'm not trash. I have a husband. 

    Wait, wait, wait.  You only need a husband to not be considered trash?  It doesn't matter if your parents are felonious scumbags who run a weed farm next to an elementary school?

    Morality judgement FAIL, lol.

    "Ainsi sera, groigne qui groinge"
  • imageBitterWretchedWoman:
    imageimoan:

    I don't have a "baby daddy" because I'm not trash. I have a husband. 

    Wait, wait, wait.  You only need a husband to not be considered trash?  It doesn't matter if your parents are felonious scumbags who run a weed farm next to an elementary school?

    Morality judgement FAIL, lol.

    Your post to imoan = FAIL. Not LOL.

    The actions of her parents does not mean she shares their morals or ethics. Their choices in life =/= her being trash. She has no choice who her parents are or the choices they make. OP had a choice whether or not to spawn with a guy who's apparently banged every pair of open legs in whatever town she's from (being she mentions not just A baby mama, but multiple other baby mamas), and is now whining about the consequences.

    Big difference.

    Oh, FFS.
  • Actually, children who are brought up speaking their native language in the home adapt very well to learning another language outside of the home. We learn much more about language from our society and our peers than we do our families. This is why a child in New York may have parents with a thick Irish accent, yet the child will develop a New York accent.

     Maybe you guys should get a handle on basic linguistic concepts before you start telling this woman not to speak her native language.

     I'm much more concerned about teaching kids whose parents are total assholes, but that's just me.

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  • imoanimoan member
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    I didn't mean it was morally wrong to not be married to the person you have a kid with.  I just said that I call him "a husband" (or "the father of my child") and not "Baby Daddy"

     

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  • This thread makes it astoundingly clear that you need MORE than a husband not to be considered trash.
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  • Around the time they were seperating all the water fountains?
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  • imagemalibu5880:
    imageBitterWretchedWoman:
    imageimoan:

    I don't have a "baby daddy" because I'm not trash. I have a husband. 

    Wait, wait, wait.  You only need a husband to not be considered trash?  It doesn't matter if your parents are felonious scumbags who run a weed farm next to an elementary school?

    Morality judgement FAIL, lol.

    Your post to imoan = FAIL. Not LOL.

    The actions of her parents does not mean she shares their morals or ethics. Their choices in life =/= her being trash. She has no choice who her parents are or the choices they make. OP had a choice whether or not to spawn with a guy who's apparently banged every pair of open legs in whatever town she's from (being she mentions not just A baby mama, but multiple other baby mamas), and is now whining about the consequences.

    Big difference.

    Who died and made you judgement queen of the world?  The morality judgement is a fail because I know PLENTY of white trash girls who are married but sleeping around or whatever in between.  Unless you truly know OP's situation, you have no right to judge.  When OP met that guy maybe she had no idea what he was like.  There are plenty of people out there who have sex with people who they aren't married to.  However it's only the ones who get pregnant who get the most judgement.  Double standard much?  I highly doubt she woke up one morning and said "hey I want to get pregnant by this guy who is a piece of crap".  OP is married and expecting a second child with her husband.  How is that consdered white trash?  The white trash is the dumbasss babydaddy who sleeps with anything with a vagina apparently.  Not the poor girl who got knocked up by a loser and then straightened her life out, got married and is having a baby with her husband.

    And frankly, if I had to choose between being white trash or part of a group of judemental biotches who ignorantly think their language and lifestyles are superior... I choose white trash. 

  • imoanimoan member
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    imagechelseamb11:
    imagemalibu5880:
    imageBitterWretchedWoman:
    imageimoan:

    I don't have a "baby daddy" because I'm not trash. I have a husband. 

    Wait, wait, wait.  You only need a husband to not be considered trash?  It doesn't matter if your parents are felonious scumbags who run a weed farm next to an elementary school?

    Morality judgement FAIL, lol.

    Your post to imoan = FAIL. Not LOL.

    The actions of her parents does not mean she shares their morals or ethics. Their choices in life =/= her being trash. She has no choice who her parents are or the choices they make. OP had a choice whether or not to spawn with a guy who's apparently banged every pair of open legs in whatever town she's from (being she mentions not just A baby mama, but multiple other baby mamas), and is now whining about the consequences.

    Big difference.

    Who died and made you judgement queen of the world?  The morality judgement is a fail because I know PLENTY of white trash girls who are married but sleeping around or whatever in between.  Unless you truly know OP's situation, you have no right to judge.  When OP met that guy maybe she had no idea what he was like.  There are plenty of people out there who have sex with people who they aren't married to.  However it's only the ones who get pregnant who get the most judgement.  Double standard much?  I highly doubt she woke up one morning and said "hey I want to get pregnant by this guy who is a piece of crap".  OP is married and expecting a second child with her husband.  How is that consdered white trash?  The white trash is the dumbasss babydaddy who sleeps with anything with a vagina apparently.  Not the poor girl who got knocked up by a loser and then straightened her life out, got married and is having a baby with her husband.

    And frankly, if I had to choose between being white trash or part of a group of judemental biotches who ignorantly think their language and lifestyles are superior... I choose white trash. 

    Cool.

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  • imageBitterWretchedWoman:
    imageimoan:

    I don't have a "baby daddy" because I'm not trash. I have a husband. 

    Wait, wait, wait.  You only need a husband to not be considered trash?  It doesn't matter if your parents are felonious scumbags who run a weed farm next to an elementary school?

    Morality judgement FAIL, lol.

    Listen heifer, the mistakes her parents made have jackshit to do with her.  And calling her parents scumbags is a disgustingly low blow, I'm sure this whole thing is difficult enough for her without some random douchecanoe on the Nest rolling up in her boat of crazy.  Take your punkass elsewhere because that ish is neither needed nor appreciated.  You're an idiot. 

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  • imoanimoan member
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    imageNuggetBrain:
    imageBitterWretchedWoman:
    imageimoan:

    I don't have a "baby daddy" because I'm not trash. I have a husband. 

    Wait, wait, wait.  You only need a husband to not be considered trash?  It doesn't matter if your parents are felonious scumbags who run a weed farm next to an elementary school?

    Morality judgement FAIL, lol.

    Please scroll up a bit.

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  • imageimoan:
    imageNuggetBrain:
    imageBitterWretchedWoman:
    imageimoan:

    I don't have a "baby daddy" because I'm not trash. I have a husband. 

    Wait, wait, wait.  You only need a husband to not be considered trash?  It doesn't matter if your parents are felonious scumbags who run a weed farm next to an elementary school?

    Morality judgement FAIL, lol.

    Please scroll up a bit.

     So I'm assuming your parents raised you to speak English. Too bad they failed to teach you empathy. Or class.

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  • imageimoan:
    imageNuggetBrain:
    imageBitterWretchedWoman:
    imageimoan:

    I don't have a "baby daddy" because I'm not trash. I have a husband. 

    Wait, wait, wait.  You only need a husband to not be considered trash?  It doesn't matter if your parents are felonious scumbags who run a weed farm next to an elementary school?

    Morality judgement FAIL, lol.

    Please scroll up a bit.

     So I'm assuming your parents raised you to speak English. Too bad they failed to teach you empathy. Or class.

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  • imageimoan:
    imageNuggetBrain:
    imageBitterWretchedWoman:
    imageimoan:

    I don't have a "baby daddy" because I'm not trash. I have a husband. 

    Wait, wait, wait.  You only need a husband to not be considered trash?  It doesn't matter if your parents are felonious scumbags who run a weed farm next to an elementary school?

    Morality judgement FAIL, lol.

    Please scroll up a bit.

    TN decided to tweak out and posted before I could actually reply to the quote - I fixed it. 

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  • imageimoan:
    imageNuggetBrain:
    imageBitterWretchedWoman:
    imageimoan:

    I don't have a "baby daddy" because I'm not trash. I have a husband. 

    Wait, wait, wait.  You only need a husband to not be considered trash?  It doesn't matter if your parents are felonious scumbags who run a weed farm next to an elementary school?

    Morality judgement FAIL, lol.

    Please scroll up a bit.

     So I'm assuming your parents raised you to speak English. Too bad they failed to teach you empathy. Or class.

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  • imoanimoan member
    10000 Comments Eighth Anniversary
    imagejasmineh7777:
    imageimoan:
    imageNuggetBrain:
    imageBitterWretchedWoman:
    imageimoan:

    I don't have a "baby daddy" because I'm not trash. I have a husband. 

    Wait, wait, wait.  You only need a husband to not be considered trash?  It doesn't matter if your parents are felonious scumbags who run a weed farm next to an elementary school?

    Morality judgement FAIL, lol.

    Please scroll up a bit.

     So I'm assuming your parents raised you to speak English. Too bad they failed to teach you empathy. Or class.

    Yup!

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  • imageBakerMommy:

    Okay, this drives me nuts as a former bilingual teacher.  If you have broken English, please do NOT only speak English to your child.  We had lots of kids whose parents employed this strategy and they were doubly screwed because they weren't learning their native language or English.  Read to your child in your native language a LOT.  If possible, teach them to read and write in their native language.  Whenever possible, expose them to native English speakers--but in interactive settings, not just TV.  The literacy skills your child gains in your native language will transfer to English, and studies show bilingual kids will catch up to or surpass their peers by about 4th grade (when in a bilingual program). It's the kids who don't know what reading is , how writing works, that letters represent sounds, the direction of a book, etc.when they start kindergarten who have the serious problems with learning to read--not kids who have these skills in their native language.

    Probably not where you thought this post would go,  but there it is.

    Yes   Winner, winner.  I was an education policy major studying under someone who specialized in BSL and this is 100% correct.  Good native tongue literacy skills transfer, all the well done studies show this, so the OP is infinitely better off teaching to read and write at an early age in native tongue.

    Also find the racism appalling.  There are so many people who experience this situation, regardless of race.  I don't think it's at all surprising that the OP would be disappointed that her child's father is unwilling to help financially support their child and shows preferential treatment to his other children.  I can name several people on SO who according to their siggies are white and experiencing similar issues with their exes.  It has to be hard to struggle to provide for your kid AND watch her be treated like a second class citizen.  That said, the best thing to do is to accept that he will not be the type of father your daughter deserves, accept the CS, and make the best of a bad situation by continuing to provide for your child emotionally and physically to the best of your ability.

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  • imageimoan:
    imagejasmineh7777:
    imageimoan:
    imageNuggetBrain:
    imageBitterWretchedWoman:
    imageimoan:

    I don't have a "baby daddy" because I'm not trash. I have a husband. 

    Wait, wait, wait.  You only need a husband to not be considered trash?  It doesn't matter if your parents are felonious scumbags who run a weed farm next to an elementary school?

    Morality judgement FAIL, lol.

    Please scroll up a bit.

     So I'm assuming your parents raised you to speak English. Too bad they failed to teach you empathy. Or class.

    Yup!

    Yawn.  At least they didn't raise me to be racist.

    "Ainsi sera, groigne qui groinge"
  • imoanimoan member
    10000 Comments Eighth Anniversary
    imageBitterWretchedWoman:
    imageimoan:
    imagejasmineh7777:
    imageimoan:
    imageNuggetBrain:
    imageBitterWretchedWoman:
    imageimoan:

    I don't have a "baby daddy" because I'm not trash. I have a husband. 

    Wait, wait, wait.  You only need a husband to not be considered trash?  It doesn't matter if your parents are felonious scumbags who run a weed farm next to an elementary school?

    Morality judgement FAIL, lol.

    Please scroll up a bit.

     So I'm assuming your parents raised you to speak English. Too bad they failed to teach you empathy. Or class.

    Yup!

    Yawn.  At least they didn't raise me to be racist.

    They must be AMAZING!

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  • imagerosesunset:
    My husband do not ignore me hes very goodhusband. I feel ignored by my daughter dad because he no reply when I call or text and I know he have the caller id. I don't want my daughter around the others kids because I don't liked their moms and I don't think its good for her. I don't want her to be jealous or left out some more times like before. I'm not a sleep around I only have one kid and pregnant now currently for the second time so stop saying bad name about me.

    Anyone remember Nayo??

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  • imagemrs_p2b:

    This thread makes me sad and sick that people are really this racist.

    Since my industry puts in the systems that 'press 1 for English' let me explain something for you all.

    By pressing 1 for English the system is directing calls to call handlers that are better able to service customers who speak a different language. This means that your own wait times will be far shorter, it will cost less to operate the contact centre and in turn make the service cheaper so customers don't pay higher fees. It's not only really helpful for a multiculural customer base but more efficient and therefore cheaper.

    Large companies have multicultural customer bases - those of us living in Europe know this all too well - sometimes it can be press 7 for English! And when you are in the reverse situation, i.e. phoning a foreign company, you appreciate hearing that option.

    Yes Our company also uses the "Press X for English" option. Its because operators like myself speak 3 different languages (including English). It helps direct the customer to the correct phone queue so we can help them appropriately. Our company is local, but part of a multi-national umbrella-- so we have companies in different countries too. We schedule service for North America, South America & Europe.

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  • Haven't any of you heard of immersion programs?

     

    sheesh. My first time on this forum. Luckily I see there are some sane people.

  • srgwsrgw member
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    I agree with previous posters who have stated that kids who start school not knowing English lag serious behind in all areas of learning. I have personally worked with kids who don't speak English when they enter elementary school. It is not their job to teach your children to speak English anymore than it's their job to teach your children manners, how to dress themselves or potty train them! School is to teach reading,writing, math and science and other academic stuff that becomes impeded by a language barrier.
  • imagesrgw:
    I agree with previous posters who have stated that kids who start school not knowing English lag serious behind in all areas of learning. I have personally worked with kids who don't speak English when they enter elementary school. It is not their job to teach your children to speak English anymore than it's their job to teach your children manners, how to dress themselves or potty train them! School is to teach reading,writing, math and science and other academic stuff that becomes impeded by a language barrier.

    My 3 siblings and I all started elementary school not speaking English. We all four are college graduates/on track to be college graduates (from top schools, FYI). One of us has a JD from a top 3 school and one a PhD (in a scientific field). The youngest one is graduating next year and currently in the top 10% of her college class. We are also all fluent in at least 3 languages (our native  language, plus English and others). We could also read and write by the time we entered kindegarten and always read well above grade level.

    Last I checked, the U.S. doesn't have an official language.

    This thread is ridiculous. I'd like to hear all the credentials of all of you who claim that non-English speakers are trash, a burden on the U.S. and the educational system.

    The biggest regret my H has is that his parents listened to people like you when they arrived in the U.S. so now he can't speak his native language fluently. We are most definitely raising our children in a bilingual setting, which, as the few intelligent and informed posters in this thread have pointed out, is best done with speaking one language exclusively at home since English is spoken in schools. I am so thankful that when ignorant people like you told my parents they were doing us a disservice by teaching us our native language, they rolled their eyes and did anyway.

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  • imagerosesunset:
    We have a daughter from when past we were together. I'm pregnant with my husband. I just don't want to deal with him while I'm pregnant my doctor say put to much stress on me is not so good for my baby. He has 1 girls thats older than my ours and 2 sons (boys) thats younger and one more coming. I need him to help because my family is not really close by.

    I'm glad you pointed out the fact that his sons are boys, I often get that confused. Confused This is definitely MUD, no one is this ridiculous.

  • imagestargazertechie:

    imagerosesunset:
    I know my english not to very good. But still no reason to say the racist thing at me! 

    If this isn't MUD, I feel sorry for her children's future grade school teachers. The literacy team is going to have a field day trying to catch kids up to grade level if THIS is the type of English exposure they have...  

     

    I spoke little English when I entered Kindergarten and in third grade we moved to Germany for 2 years which wouldn't have helped the situation.  I was advanced in all my classes and never had an issue with that fact that English was my second language.  The good thing about little kids it that they can pick up a language very quickly (dispite the fact that the language is not spoken at home).  Please think twice before judging what someone's children will be like. 

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  • imagestargazertechie:
    imagerosesunset:
    imagebbirdz:

    imagerosesunset:
    We don't speak the english in my home only when speaking to those who don't speak my native tongue.

    You should speak English in your home. Otherwise, your kids are going to fall behind in their reading, writing, listening, and speaking skills. There have been many studies that show students who live in non-English speaking homes have a more difficult time acquiring English skills than peers who live in English speaking homes.

    Listen, if you plan to stay in this country, you're going to have to brush up on the language. That is just how it is. I wouldn't go to China and half-azz learn Chinese and expect them to understand me. If the native speaker has trouble comprehending you, then you are not speaking the language, sorry.

    This sort of reminds me of when Phoebe was trying to teach Joey how to speak French on Friends.

    "Parlez-vous Francais?"

    "Pearly vooce francine? I'm speaking French!" 

    My kids will learn english in the school system. It's more comfortable and less of troublesome to not speak english at home. Its harder to understand the phrases.


    Did you NOT read what I posted? Even with LOTS of special intervention, your children WILL NOT BE good enough English speakers to progress with their classmates! 

    Even WITH intervention programs, they expect the parents to HELP teach the children to read, write, and communicate in English. Teachers will NOT fix the mistake you're making. 

    EVERY summer break they will go 10 weeks without speaking English unless they are with their friends, and even then, playdates are not a substitute for language immersion. Each year they will go back to school and fall farther and farther behind.  

    I think that everything that you wrote was wrong.   Yes, a child that does not speak English may initially have problems but children learn other languages so much faster than you or I ever could.  As far as learning "half ass Chinese" (which isn't a language btw).. I'm sure you would make an effort to fully learn the language, but until you did you're "Chinese" would be half ass and you would make good out of what you know and what you've learned from speaking with locals.  If the locals have bad grammar then you may end up with some bad grammar.  Why are most people here so quick to judge?  I'm sure you wouldn't say these things to a person if you weren't behind the safety of your computers.

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  • Here's how it works, hon.

    Establish child support. Even if it's not much. Follow the court support and custody/visitation order to the letter.

    If he is paying his child support (no matter how little you are awarded) then he IS NOT obligated to do or buy ANY thing for your daughter. Period. Yes, it would be a nice thing to do, but he doesn't sound like a stand up kind of guy. Don't even call and ask... all it does is make you mad.

    If he's spending money right and left on frivolous things contact the court and ask if they can review your child support order. The court will re-review his finances.

    Kids are expensive. You BOTH made this child and at MINIMUM you are expected to pay for half of her care. If the court determines he can only send $50 a month then that's all he can do. That's it. That's all you get. So now YOU are responsible for making up the difference. It's not ideal, but it's life. He has no further responsibility to meet her needs.

    Being a mom is tough. Making up the difference financially (even if you pay 90%) is just part of the job. It's the responsibility you chose when you made this child and chose to have her. If you have to pay almost everything yourself then that's tough cookies. If his child support doesn't cover clothes then it's your responsibility to buy her clothes. Forever and always. It just is.

    When you choose to collect child support you also open the door to a custody/visitation agreement. If he wants to see his daughter that's his right. You have NO say so as to who she spends time with while she is with her father, just like HE could not tell you who you can and cannot let your daughter see. Barring PROVABLE abuse or negligence or danger you are out of luck. He has the right to expose your daughter to people he feels are important in her life just like you have the right to expose your daughter to who you feel should be important. 

    I wish you luck. My advice is get everything in (legally binding) writing and stick to it. Stop dwelling on what he SHOULD be doing (if he was a nice guy) because honey he sounds like a deadbeat. All you're doing is upsetting yourself because he's not being like what you want him to be. You can't change him so accept it as it is and move forward. Your daughter needs to see your strength.

    A dream is a wish your heart makes when you're fast asleep. In dreams you will lose your heartaches. Whatever you wish for you keep. Hold on to your dreams and someday your rainbow will come shining through. No matter how your heart is bleeding if you keep on believing the dream that you wish will come true. - Cinderella
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