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Circumcision

What are you thoughts on it?  And if you and your partner disagreed over it, how did/would you decide?

DH and I would like to reach a decision in the next 7 weeks.  We are at opposite ends of the spectrum, but our heels are not dug into the ground (anymore).  While I do not want my son circumcised, if it is that important to DH we'll do it.  He feels the same.

We spoke with Dr/Nurses and they said it comes down to a cultural/cosmetic decision. The nurse at St Anthony's said it is a 50% split right now; my last 2 friends that had boys did not circumcise, but most friends have/say they would.

DH wants to circumcise b/c he is and he is afraid that our son will be called an anteater in gym class.  (Do boys really compare them?) I do not want to circumcise b/c I feel that is a decision my son should make on his own.  It is a permanent change to his body to which he should consent. But, I'll feel like a guilty jackass if at 13 he asks for the procedure and has to suffer. DH also cites cleanliness as an issue, but I trust that my son will not want a stinky penis any more than a stinky tush.

What are you thoughts? I'm curious to see what you local ladies think.

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  • i always laugh at the gym class stuff - i never saw a naked classmate in the locker room - we had shorts and a tee we were required to wear and no one showered. truthfully, no one ever really broke a sweat in gym either! i don't know - maybe boys do strut around the locker room?

    we're jewish, so a bris/circumcision would have taken place had we had boys. no question about it for us - it comes down to culture/religion alone for us.

  • we were asked this question at our last dr appointment. i had no idea that the gyno does the circumcision.. dh and i thought it was the pedi's job. anyway.. we decided that we are going ahead and having the baby curcumcized. it was more dh's decision then anything. he also didn't want our son to be "labeled" and thought it was alot more easier to take care of when hes younger. imo, if its not done when they are born (despite religious reasons to wait) usually they aren't going to have it done when they want it. i just think that the baby is not going to remember it when he just born rather then when he is 16 and may want it. 
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  • We did. It was never even a discussion in our house. Dh is and we wanted our son to be. My nephew had to wait until after he was 2 to have it done. (can't remember why exactly) he was miserable for a few days. I realize it's their body but I have not heard of anyone's son yelling at them because they made that choice.  Do you have someone in your life that is not. Part of my concern would be that not doing it would make him feel different. Having no one that wasn't to talk with should they have questions or issues. 

    None of our thought process had anything to do with medical reasoning.

    It's another one of those personal decisions.  

    However can I request that if you don't try not to buy the bumper sticker that announces it. I feel so bad for the boys at DS school that get into that car everydaySurprise 

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  • I had a bf in hs and he wasn't circumcised until he was 4.  I'm not sure of why he was 4 when his parents decided.  He said it was the most painful thing he had ever been through and that he remembered everything.  Just something to think about if you decide to wait and do it later in life.  Another factor that I know a lot of parents consider is whether or not the father/husband is.  I know a lot of dads that show their sons how to pee standing up and if they are different the son will notice. 
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  • We had 2 girls, but discussed the issue before we knew their gender. We decided that we would have the baby circumcised if it were a boy. Not for any medical reason at all but because DH is. Also, I dated a guy who was not and he was kind of embarrassed by it. I did not mention that to DH, but it was on my mind.
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    However can I request that if you don't try not to buy the bumper sticker that announces it. I feel so bad for the boys at DS school that get into that car everydaySurprise 

    Seriously?   This bumper sticker really exists??  Holy he!!.


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  • I honestly don't have strong feelings one way or the other.  I think most men want their sons to "look like them", so I think DH would lean toward circumcision.  I would pretty much let him decide it, since he has a better idea of what issues might arise when the kid is older and has to deal with other boys. 

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    what issues might arise. 

     

    ::: bah dum cymbal crash ::: 

  • imageELF4321:
    I honestly don't have strong feelings one way or the other.  I think most men want their sons to "look like them", so I think DH would lean toward circumcision.  I would pretty much let him decide it, since he has a better idea of what issues might arise when the kid is older and has to deal with other boys. 

     

    In all seriousness, though MH was passionate about circumcising our baby had it been a boy. I was absolutely ambivalent so I was deferring to his wishes. I figured that he was the one with a penis so he'd know better than I. 

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    imageELF4321:
    what issues might arise. 

    ::: bah dum cymbal crash ::: 

    LMFAO

  • We did.

    It was partly because DH felt strongly about having his son "look like him" and not having the possiblity of being teased.  I know that many boys are un-circ'd now so, didn't feel that would be an issue. 

    For me, it was important because, as a social worker, I had worked with several boys in my career who needed to be circ'd between 8-10 years old for medical reasons and it was an absolutely traumatic, terrifying experience for them (I was their therapist) and very painful.  While I did and still do have some issues with the fact that we altered our son's genitals without his consent, I would never have wanted my son to end up in the position of those little boys.

    In any case, while there are heated debates on this, I do NOT think there is a right or wrong in this.  It is highly personal and every family has the right to their own opinion.

    {And, bumper stickers, really?  WTF?!?!?!?}

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  • The bumper sticker might help me decide.... What does it say? My son is the proud owner of his foreskin? P.s I have 2 brothers who weren't because they were born in England and culturally it wasn't done but my 1 brother got it done as an adult. Eek!
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    The bumper sticker might help me decide.... What does it say? My son is the proud owner of his foreskin? P.s I have 2 brothers who weren't because they were born in England and culturally it wasn't done but my 1 brother got it done as an adult. Eek!

    they dont circumize in England?  i learn something new everyday! 

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  • I don't know about now but not 40 and 35 years ago when my brothers were born
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  • We did and it was primarily DH's decision. He did want DS to look like him and was very adamant about the cleanliness aspect of it. I was ambivalent but agreed that I didn't want DS to have to get it done later in life and have it be a traumatic experience so therefore we did it.
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  • When pregnant w/ Connor I was neither pro nor anti circumcision, I am still indifferent... however, we made our decision based on "Looking like Daddy"... and that was that - which is what the OB suggested we do

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  • My DH and I both agreed to have our son circumcised. Maybe I am naieve but I dont understand why you wouldnt do it. Cultural, religion, I get that.....but those dont apply to us.

    I agree with the other girls that "looking like daddy" is the way to go along with cleanleness. 

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    My DH and I both agreed to have our son circumcised. Maybe I am naieve but I dont understand why you wouldnt do it. Cultural, religion, I get that.....but those dont apply to us.

    I agree with the other girls that "looking like daddy" is the way to go along with cleanleness. 

    I am with you.  I never thought not too and didn't realize the debate until the Bump boards. 

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  • We did, but we did not agree and it took months to come to a decision. And bc we were team green, it was harder bc it was a "what if" conversation.

    DH did NOT want to, I DID. I did lots of research and for medical reasons and physical reasons, I wanted him to be. DH gave in.

  • Thanks for the input and candor, ladies.  August, you caught me- it really is about getting the bumper sticker.  Maybe I'll get some matching family t-shirts made up for a family photo. 

    I'm first generation American, so the cultural lines are blurred for me. (Also, I've read that circumcision became common in the States during to deter masturbation- but stuck around for cleanliness. I wonder if it were not for the masturbation deterrent if we would have picked it up a cleanliness issue over here)  Circumcision is not routine in Europe (and I believe most other places, except in nations with a large Jewish or Muslim population).  I agree there is no right and wrong, but the issue has risen in our partnership b/c we see it differently. 

    My biggest fear, like some of you touched upon, is a medically necessary circ later on, especially when it would be do devastatingly confusing for the child.  So much to think about...

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  • thanks to the lurker who just sent me a 3 page message on circumcision... with 50 links.. 
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    thanks to the lurker who just sent me a 3 page message on circumcision... with 50 links.. 

     

    Whaaaaaaaa? Pass that sh!t on, homie. 

  • FWIW --

    i didn't share in my earlier post, but DS is NOT circ'd b/c we decided to keep things "matching" -- 

    I'm not sure how many people (statistically I mean) truly need to have one later on in life but if you start early with good hygiene and pass it on as the boys grow up there should be no need for later surgery...

    **again... i'm not pro or against, but since there was no one sharing a non-circ'd story I figured I should.

     

    ALSO , no lurker links please and thank you very much I'm sure nybride can pass them on LOL

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    FWIW --

    i didn't share in my earlier post, but DS is NOT circ'd b/c we decided to keep things "matching" -- 

    I'm not sure how many people (statistically I mean) truly need to have one later on in life but if you start early with good hygiene and pass it on as the boys grow up there should be no need for later surgery...

    **again... i'm not pro or against, but since there was no one sharing a non-circ'd story I figured I should.

     

    ALSO , no lurker links please and thank you very much I'm sure nybride can pass them on LOL

     

    Well, while we're sharing, neither of my brothers is circumcised and one does a little too well with the ladies and the other is autistic. LOL. My mom never had an issue with their hygiene either. 

  • imagenybride10:
    thanks to the lurker who just sent me a 3 page message on circumcision... with 50 links.. 

    Nybride, I'm sorry you got spammed from this post.  I didn't receive any similar msgs.  It is kind of strange that you were sent that info when you clearly indicated you were already decided on the issue.

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    imagenybride10:
    thanks to the lurker who just sent me a 3 page message on circumcision... with 50 links.. 

    Nybride, I'm sorry you got spammed from this post.  I didn't receive any similar msgs.  It is kind of strange that you were sent that info when you clearly indicated you were already decided on the issue.

    dont be sorry, it happens... :) 

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  • The old broad, chiming in late (as usual).  I did it when my son was born.  My Mom is a nurse and she basically gave me all the health reasons and I just said "whatever, do it" and it was done.  But that was in 1992 when things weren't as big as an issue as it these days.  Things that I did, just because it was done, are HUGE issues these days, like shots and going to regular school. 

     

    Dang I feel old.  LOL

  • We did it for health reasons and because H is. 
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  • imagenybride10:

    imagei3utaphly1:
    The bumper sticker might help me decide.... What does it say? My son is the proud owner of his foreskin? P.s I have 2 brothers who weren't because they were born in England and culturally it wasn't done but my 1 brother got it done as an adult. Eek!

    they dont circumize in England?  i learn something new everyday! 

    They don't circ in Greece either so, during our trip there in May DS' diaper changes were something of a family event because it is such an unknown there.

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