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How to make amends with your child

I am hoping someone will help me. For starters my son and I have not spoken in a year. Out of all my kids he forgave me for not being there for my children as they were going up. he forgave me and we had the perfect relationship until 2005 where he met his wife. I felt this woman only was with my son for his money and father figure for her son. My son has not spoken to his sister in over 4 years because she stole some money from him. I feel he should forgive his sister and move on because money can be replace but your family can not. Once my son heard how I felt about this from his wife he stop talking to me. I have tried to apologize to my daughter in law but she does not answer the phone when i call her number. What can I do to possible have a relationship with my son. He tells me that he is through with me and doesnt want anything to do with me or his sister. I have tried calling him only for it to be sent to voicemail. The last thing he told me was his wife's family are his family now.I ask how do I make amends with my son.
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Re: How to make amends with your child

  • It wasn't your place to tell him that he should forgive his sister.  He's probably thinking that you stuck up for her instead of him, even though she's the one who did wrong.  He probably feels like he's been the good guy in the family but got screwed.  So, he gave up.  You think family comes first, but maybe he feels like you didn't put him first.  You can't tell him how to feel and totally disregard his feelings.

    And, why are you supporting your daughter who broke the law by stealing from him?  I don't blame him for not wanting to speak to her!  She's lucky he didn't call the police and get her thrown in jail.  If family is so important to you, why aren't you mad at your daughter for stealing from her brother?  Why aren't you mad at her for not putting family first?

    All you can do is leave him a message, not going through his wife and tell him that you're sorry that you didn't see it from his side.  If he chooses to not communicate with you, there's really nothing you can do about it.

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  • I agree with the previous post 100% you basically said that its ok family stole from you because its family and we should all hold hands and sing. Did your daughter even apologize to her brother for what she did to him? Or does she figure she should not apologize because she's family?
  • No my daughter never apologize to my son or admitted any wrong. My son calls his sister terrible names. I admit my daughter has not been faithful in her marriage and has done things that I do not agree with but to call your sister a stealing whore. I feel that crosses the line. My daughter in law physically attacked my daughter because she mention the fact that my son's daughter might not be his. Every since this woman has enter our family he does nothing for his family. She has turned my son against his family.
  • imageJoyousOne56:
    No my daughter never apologize to my son or admitted any wrong. My son calls his sister terrible names. I admit my daughter has not been faithful in her marriage and has done things that I do not agree with but to call your sister a stealing whore. I feel that crosses the line. My daughter in law physically attacked my daughter because she mention the fact that my son's daughter might not be his. Every since this woman has enter our family he does nothing for his family. She has turned my son against his family.
    Why on earth is your son expected to support and do something for the family that encouraged and supported his sister to steal from him? If his sister, your daughter, did cheat on her husband and stole from her brother, well, a "stealing whore" is a well-deserved title. No, it's not fun to hear, and she'll act how she wants (and has, clearly) but he has the right to cut her out of his life, too, and it looks like he has. I'm going to say his wife is actually doing him a favor - helping and supporting him putting up boundaries and not tolerating nonsense anymore.

    You want your son to be happy? Leave him alone. You owe him a number of apologies, as does your daughter, but he might not accept them and that is his right.

  • A woman that tears a child away from his mother is helping him and supporting him. I disagree with that. Yes my son was the one that everyone, especially me could call on and he would be there to help us. Once this woman enter his life she cut off all well beings of him helping his family. She only wants him to take care of her. She does not work, and to maintain that she continues not to work she makes sure he doesnt anything for our family. He went from paying for his niece cheer-leading camp one year to now not buying her nothing. Him and his sister used to be so close. I feel that he can forgive her if his wife was not in his ear telling him he is better off without the two of us. I believe we can all be a family, he no longer celebrate holidays or family gathering with us anymore.
  • His behavior is so vile towards us.I stay up all night trying to figure out ways to make amends with my son.
  • imageJoyousOne56:
    A woman that tears a child away from his mother is helping him and supporting him. I disagree with that. Yes my son was the one that everyone, especially me could call on and he would be there to help us. Once this woman enter his life she cut off all well beings of him helping his family. She only wants him to take care of her. She does not work, and to maintain that she continues not to work she makes sure he doesnt anything for our family. He went from paying for his niece cheer-leading camp one year to now not buying her nothing. Him and his sister used to be so close. I feel that he can forgive her if his wife was not in his ear telling him he is better off without the two of us. I believe we can all be a family, he no longer celebrate holidays or family gathering with us anymore.
    Your perspectives are waaay off and until you can make the adjustment to see things from another's point of view, nothing is going to change for you or your family. It's called empathy.

    Think of it this way: you are asking a man who had money stolen from him to get along well with the person who stole that money and the people who supported that thief. Does that make sense to you? It doesn't matter that that person was his sister - the money is gone and she took it. To me, that says that she has no respect for him or his hard work (through which he earned it, I'm going to guess) and so why should he have respect for her?

    But that's not the point. Until you stop seeing your DIL as the bad guy, you're never going to reconnect with your son.  If you really want to reconnect, you're going to have to accept her as the person your son loves and is married to, and a part of your family. If you're going to continue to play the "it's all her fault" game, well, it's a lost cause and you might as well stop posting now.

  • The reason why you women does not understand my situation is because you are not mother in laws yourselves. I hope any of you who sides with my daughter in law in this matter will never go through what I am going through. At first I tried very hard to get along with my daughter in law, but I felt she was after my son money which he earned as a captain. He was so busy buying her everything that he neglected me. I am on a fixed income and she knows this. She did not care about him taking care of me only her and her child. I just feel family is more important than money. I do not think my daughter in law has my son best interest at heart, She loves to shop while my son is out there working very hard. Right now I hear they are on vacation. The only transportation I had, my son took it from me and I know she is behind it. He would have never done such a thing before he met her.
  • Wow, this post is all kinds of cray-cray.

    OP, your son is better off without you and your daughter. I completely agree with all the PPs. It sounds like your just sad that you two no longer have him to walk all over or take advantage of. I hope he is happy with his family that loves and respects him.

  • I don't think your DIL is tearing a child away from his family.  I think your family chased him away and he finally found someone who loves him and supports him and doesn't just expect him to let people treat him like crap.

    Your son has done nothing but help you, your daughter, and your family, and you have treated him like $$hit.  What do you expect?  I'm surprised he didn't run far far away from you a long time ago.

    Your daughter is a adulterous thief.  Why do you keep taking her side?  Why don't you tell her to grow the fvck up and start acting like a mature adult.  She needs to start acting like your son!

    And you have a very screwed up view of what family should do for each other.  Your son is better off without you.

     

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  • imageJoyousOne56:
    The reason why you women does not understand my situation is because you are not mother in laws yourselves. I hope any of you who sides with my daughter in law in this matter will never go through what I am going through. At first I tried very hard to get along with my daughter in law, but I felt she was after my son money which he earned as a captain. He was so busy buying her everything that he neglected me. I am on a fixed income and she knows this. She did not care about him taking care of me only her and her child. I just feel family is more important than money. I do not think my daughter in law has my son best interest at heart, She loves to shop while my son is out there working very hard. Right now I hear they are on vacation. The only transportation I had, my son took it from me and I know she is behind it. He would have never done such a thing before he met her.

    Wow.  You're a crappy mom.  You're just mad because you don't have your son around to give you things.  You don't love him, you just want to use him, just like your daughter did. 

    If you really loved your son, you'd let him go live a normal life without his family constantly demanding and stealing money from him.

     

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  • imageJoyousOne56:
    The reason why you women does not understand my situation is because you are not mother in laws yourselves. I hope any of you who sides with my daughter in law in this matter will never go through what I am going through. At first I tried very hard to get along with my daughter in law, but I felt she was after my son money which he earned as a captain. He was so busy buying her everything that he neglected me. I am on a fixed income and she knows this. She did not care about him taking care of me only her and her child. I just feel family is more important than money. I do not think my daughter in law has my son best interest at heart, She loves to shop while my son is out there working very hard. Right now I hear they are on vacation. The only transportation I had, my son took it from me and I know she is behind it. He would have never done such a thing before he met her.

    Lady, you are off your rocker. Did you give birth to your son in hopes that he would provide for you in your old age? It sounds like you think he is stupid. I don't think this woman is busy pulling any sort of wool over your son's eyes. I'm sure he gets plenty in return for what he provides her. He's obviously happy; why can't you just be happy for him?

  • She's not happy for him because he's not giving her transportation, or money, or letting his sister steal from him, or buying his niece cheer camp, or..... 

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  • Both of your children are adults, which means you should stay out of their problems and let them fight their own battles.  The minute you start favoring one over the other or say mean-spirited things about one to the other it causes a lot of headaches and resentments.

     If I were you, I'd lay low for a while and not harass your son and his wife anymore.  Let them come to you when they're ready to have a relationship with you.  You can't force your grown children to feel something that's just not there right now.

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  • imageMarynJoe:

    She's not happy for him because he's not giving her transportation, or money, or letting his sister steal from him, or buying his niece cheer camp, or..... 

    Well, I am happy for him. I'm glad he's got some self-respect to cut ties with his toxic family.

  • imageTNchickadee:
    imageMarynJoe:

    She's not happy for him because he's not giving her transportation, or money, or letting his sister steal from him, or buying his niece cheer camp, or..... 

    Well, I am happy for him. I'm glad he's got some self-respect to cut ties with his toxic family.

    Me too.  It's better for him and maybe (though I doubt it), his lack of enabling will encourage his family members to stand on their own feet and make better decisions.

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  • I hate to say this but this woman only loves her son money. Seems to me everything was fine until wife pull the plug on the a.t.m and now she's the worse person in the world. So what if she does not work and she goes shopping. What business is it of yours? Maybe you are mad that you can no longer go shopping. I feel that his wife was sent to him for a reason for you and your family to stop using him and for him to actually be with someone that makes him happy. Have you thought that maybe your son has made the best decision for him and not for you.
  • This is getting very exhausting. I love my son and I told him I love all my kids equally, but to go 4 years without talking to your sister that is not right. I feel once my son married this woman, he changed. I admit I am not proud of my daughter behavior but life is too short. My son says I shows favoritism towards my daughter and I never stand up to her when she is wrong. My daughter always throws that fact that I did not raise my children in my face which is a true fact. I can admit to that. My daughter has forgiven me and have a relationship with me. She never stop talking to me. My son has not spoken to me in over a year. Maybe I need to go to another place for help. This site is not helping at all.
  • You will never get it. You can not stand up to your daughter without her throwing up your past in your face so you always defend her to avoid hearing your past. You are one of those mother in laws who felt your son was also your husband smh. You act as if she was the mistress in your marriage with your son and he left you far her. Everyone is right he is better off without having this circus for his family.
  • imageJoyousOne56:
    This is getting very exhausting. I love my son and I told him I love all my kids equally, but to go 4 years without talking to your sister that is not right. I feel once my son married this woman, he changed. I admit I am not proud of my daughter behavior but life is too short. My son says I shows favoritism towards my daughter and I never stand up to her when she is wrong. My daughter always throws that fact that I did not raise my children in my face which is a true fact. I can admit to that. My daughter has forgiven me and have a relationship with me. She never stop talking to me. My son has not spoken to me in over a year. Maybe I need to go to another place for help. This site is not helping at all.

    Forgiveness is a great thing, but forgiving someone for past mistakes doesn't mean signing up for whatever abuse they continue to dish out. You and your daughter have used your son, and he finally had enough of being the family ATM and go-to guy. If your DIL helped him stand his ground against being stolen from, guilt-tripped and walked on, then more power to her.

    Your son didn't have the advantage of being raised by a mother who cared for him when he was a child. Please find it in your heart to stand back and allow him the happy adulthood he deserves.

  • You keep mentioning how "family comes first" and yet you're completely ignoring the fact that your son is putting family first--his family.  HIS family unit, with his new wife, is so much more important than you.  It's more important than your daughter.  It's the only family he should be worrying about as long as the drama nonsense you and your daughter are trying to suck him back into exists.  Until you and your daughter can learn to keep your mouths shut and stop disrespecting his wife, and until you keep your nose out of the business between him and his sister, and until your daughter acknowledges, apologizes, and pays back that money she stole, my guess is your son will continue to keep you manipulators out of his life.  He's much better off without you.  You seem completely incapable of taking any blame for the situation.  The very fact that you call your son a "child" who is "taken away from his mother" is disturbing.  he's a grown man who has made this decision on his own, and it sounds like he has loving support from his wife.  And the fact that you're trying to contact his wife instead of him, shows how manipulative you really are. 
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  • imageNukke:
    You keep mentioning how "family comes first" and yet you're completely ignoring the fact that your son is putting family first--his family.  HIS family unit, with his new wife, is so much more important than you.  It's more important than your daughter.  It's the only family he should be worrying about as long as the drama nonsense you and your daughter are trying to suck him back into exists.  Until you and your daughter can learn to keep your mouths shut and stop disrespecting his wife, and until you keep your nose out of the business between him and his sister, and until your daughter acknowledges, apologizes, and pays back that money she stole, my guess is your son will continue to keep you manipulators out of his life.  He's much better off without you.  You seem completely incapable of taking any blame for the situation.  The very fact that you call your son a "child" who is "taken away from his mother" is disturbing.  he's a grown man who has made this decision on his own, and it sounds like he has loving support from his wife.  And the fact that you're trying to contact his wife instead of him, shows how manipulative you really are. 

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  • imageJoyousOne56:
    This is getting very exhausting. I love my son and I told him I love all my kids equally, but to go 4 years without talking to your sister that is not right. I feel once my son married this woman, he changed. I admit I am not proud of my daughter behavior but life is too short. My son says I shows favoritism towards my daughter and I never stand up to her when she is wrong. My daughter always throws that fact that I did not raise my children in my face which is a true fact. I can admit to that. My daughter has forgiven me and have a relationship with me. She never stop talking to me. My son has not spoken to me in over a year. Maybe I need to go to another place for help. This site is not helping at all.

    Yes, everywhere else on the interwebz will CERTAINLY tell you that you have the right to dictate the life of a child you didn't raise by virtue of having birthed him.

    They'll tell you that making your love and affection conditional on the relationship he has with his sister, and blaming his wife for your son growing a backbone and standing up to you, is the way to go

    ^the above is all written in the Sarcasm Font.  

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  • imageJoyousOne56:
    This is getting very exhausting. I love my son and I told him I love all my kids equally, but to go 4 years without talking to your sister that is not right. I feel once my son married this woman, he changed. I admit I am not proud of my daughter behavior but life is too short. My son says I shows favoritism towards my daughter and I never stand up to her when she is wrong. My daughter always throws that fact that I did not raise my children in my face which is a true fact. I can admit to that. My daughter has forgiven me and have a relationship with me. She never stop talking to me. My son has not spoken to me in over a year. Maybe I need to go to another place for help. This site is not helping at all.

     And your son is exactly right here--you continually gloss over the fact that she stole from him, and in fact, you seem clueless as to why he's upset over this.  You don't want to have to face the actions of your stealing whore of a daughter, so you try to push your son into forgiving her actions.  You're absolutely putting her ahead of him, and he has every right to be mad about it.

    Sounds like a great relationship you have with your daughter, you know, with her constantly throwing your past mistakes in your face.  She seems like a real peach.  I can understand why your son wants nothing to do with her.

    If the niece that he stopped sending to cheer camp is your daughter's child, good for him.  Her mother steals from him, and he's still supposed to shell out cash for the kid?  

    You want a relationship with your son?  Start by kicking your daughter in the azz and make her repay the money she stole from him.  Maybe when you start treating them equally he'll want to come around.

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  • And as for your transportation?  Get that great daughter of yours, with whom you have a good relationship, to provide that for you now.
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  • Your daughter didn't steal "some" money.  She stole, based on your original post, $30,000.  And you think your son should just forgive that?  what about your daughter being held responsible for her actions?  Oh, but no- you all are "Family" so therefore any poor behavior should be overlooked and forgiven....

     yeah, whatever.

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  • I'm forever astonished that "but it's Faaaaaamiiiiillllyyyy" only goes one way.

    one child is supposed to forgive the other theft because she's family...but mommy dearest can't give her sone peace and quit harping on him and accept him for who he is because it's family?

  • imageJoyousOne56:
    Yes my son was the one that everyone, especially me could call on and he would be there to help us. Once this woman enter his life she cut off all well beings of him helping his family. She only wants him to take care of her. She does not work, and to maintain that she continues not to work she makes sure he doesnt anything for our family. He went from paying for his niece cheer-leading camp one year to now not buying her nothing. Him and his sister used to be so close. I feel that he can forgive her if his wife was not in his ear telling him he is better off without the two of us. I believe we can all be a family, he no longer celebrate holidays or family gathering with us anymore.

    This is really striking a cord with me. Down to the bone actually.

    You are so damm selfish. Don't like the truth? Too damm bad. My DH bent over backwards for his mom and sister. They would constantly lay guilt trips on him for "hurting" them when he wouldn't go somewhere or do something for them. Collectively he has lent them 10,000 8 years ago and it has been just over this last year that M/FIL starting paying him back for their 3000. His sister has NO intention of paying him back and whenever he mentions getting paid they throw another guilt trip on him. They were using him. I came into the picture and put a stop to it.

    I can see from your perspective that MIL might blame me for taking their atm away - for taking away the guy who would do anything to keep them happy. But you know what lady - DH is HAPPIER now that he has finally stood up to them. Their son has no reservations seeing them anymore. Yeah - it HURT and it SUCKED in between while we set our boundaries with each other but it was up to MIL and DH to accept the new differences and move on. Your head seems so far up your own colon looking for a way to reverse time when you should be looking for a way to accept your son and his new wife - the choices he's making etc. If you want any kind of a relationship with him you need to stop blaming your DIL and look in the damm mirror at your own actions. Or you can keep looking for someone to agree with you here and tell you exactly how to reverse time.

    But I bet since you're desperate to reverse time and your son will not answer your calls - you've lost him for good and its not your DIL's fault. Move on. You screwed yourself.

  • imageTNchickadee:
    imageMarynJoe:

    She's not happy for him because he's not giving her transportation, or money, or letting his sister steal from him, or buying his niece cheer camp, or..... 

    Well, I am happy for him. I'm glad he's got some self-respect to cut ties with his toxic family.

    I second that. This woman is the epiphany of Monster In Law that every future spouse fears.

  • Don't blame your daughter-in-law for the fact that your daughter is a thief who stole $30,000 from her brother.  I am fairly close to my brother.  He would never steal from me.  Assuming he did steal $30K, I don't think I could forgive.  Tell him you miss him and would like a relationship with him even if he doesn't forgive his sister.
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