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Have we not discussed this Penn State debacle?

What a disturbing story, not only the abuse that was perpetrated on these children, but the adults who made no efforts to protect them.

JoePa: "I wish I had done more.

That's all you have to say for yourself?! Pathetic. He had a really amazing career and now this is all anyone is going to remember him for.

The whole thing just sickens me.

PS. I think they should fire him, not allow him to quit. End result is the same but the message is not.

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  • I think the entire situation is disgusting....revolting, actually.  But I also think that the President needs to be canned and everyone else who knew about this and didn't do everything they could have.  Joe Pa is small potatoes compared to who all should be ousted out of there for this.
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  • Uh, yeah.  He could definitely be saying a  LOT more, rather than just leading "We are Penn State!" chants on his front lawn at all hours of the night.

    Creep.

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  • I haven't really kept up with it all....but I all I know it is sad for the kids involved that theadults allowed this to continue.
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  • imagerobynlynn83:
    But I also think that the President needs to be canned and everyone else who knew about this and didn't do everything they could have. 

    Agreed. It has been reported that both the university vice president and the AD at the time were fully knowledgeable about the events. I cannot understand any opposition to removing them. This is a horrible black mark on the face of their university & they need to clean house, big time.

  • imagemelgul001:
    I haven't really kept up with it all....but I all I know it is sad for the kids involved that theadults allowed this to continue.

    This has the grand jury report... warning it is horribly upsetting. It made me cry. I just don't understand how a human being could be so willfully blind to child abuse like this. (I obviously don't understand the abuser, never thought I could/would... but these other adults... I am just horrified at their inaction.)

  • imageOxAMYxO:

    Uh, yeah.  He could definitely be saying a  LOT more, rather than just leading "We are Penn State!" chants on his front lawn at all hours of the night.

    Creep.

    Here is a quote from him outside his house with all those supporters of his.

    "As you know, the kids that were the victims, I think we ought to say a prayer for them," he said.

  • imageAudreyHpbrn:
    imageOxAMYxO:

    Uh, yeah.  He could definitely be saying a  LOT more, rather than just leading "We are Penn State!" chants on his front lawn at all hours of the night.

    Creep.

    Here is a quote from him outside his house with all those supporters of his.

    "As you know, the kids that were the victims, I think we ought to say a prayer for them," he said.

    Omg.  Saying a prayer for them does not rectify the situation! 

    He did NOTHING when informed about it.  Saying he told the school isn't enough.  Anyone who is in that position has a moral (and legal) responsibility to contact the authorities.  These were KIDS....young boys being assaulted on school grounds by a person they should have been able to trust. 

    End of story.

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  • imageAudreyHpbrn:
    imageOxAMYxO:

    Uh, yeah.  He could definitely be saying a  LOT more, rather than just leading "We are Penn State!" chants on his front lawn at all hours of the night.

    Creep.

    Here is a quote from him outside his house with all those supporters of his.

    "As you know, the kids that were the victims, I think we ought to say a prayer for them," he said.

    Gag me with a pitchfork.

    He sure as hell wasnt saying any prayers for them at the time this was all happening (REPEATEDLY).  Please.

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  • This situation makes me absolutely sick.  The fact that anyone really believes his claim of ignorance is APPALING.

    He (and many others involved) are just as guilty as the pervert, if you ask me.

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  • if u were at the gym in a locker room, and you saw.this, would you just go tell a manager and then leave? fvck no. id be kicking some azz and calling the police via cell phone while not letting that creeper out of my site. dh said he'd beat the *** out of him first, then call the police. everyone involved in this deserves everything bad coming toward them. I believe there is a special place in helll for those who do or enable these disgusting acts.
  • I think people need to think of it being THEIR sons in the posistion of the 10 year old boy. Then maybe their beloved coach wouldnt look so innocent anymore.

     

    (these rants arent directed at you N - I know after you read the report it probably changd your mind.  Just so you know.) :)

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  • imageOxAMYxO:

    I think people need to think of it being THEIR sons in the posistion of the 10 year old boy. Then maybe their beloved coach wouldnt look so innocent anymore.

     

    (these rants arent directed at you N - I know after you read the report it probably changd your mind.  Just so you know.) :)

    It did drastically! 

  • The fact that any of this was covered up, by this supposed "god" of football...all because no one wanted to tarnish the good name of Penn State, the football program, it's coaches and staff, and yes...Paterno...makes it all the more infuriating.

    Football is a sport.  Period.  And it certainly shouldn't be priority over the saftey and well-being of a child.

    Paterno, to me...is just as guilty as any of the others.  Someone came to him reporting witnessing a boy being ANALLY RAPED in a shower by Sandusky.  He reported it to campus police and that was it.  Don't even get me started on that graduate assistant who did NOTHING to stop that b*stard from raping that poor boy.  I don't care who it was, if I walked in and saw such an awful, unimaginable thing, I would have grabbed the boy and marched right to the f*cking police.  I don't care WHO the rapist was, what school it was, what stupid f*cking football dynasty and legendary coaching staff there was to uphold.

    I am fairly furious that people are feeling bad that Paterno is getting bad press for this.  Um, that douchelord needs more than bad press.

    And he needs to quit.  Now.  Not at the end of the season.

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  • And yeah, I know there are many more other people involved with this mess at this school.  But I have no problem pinning a lot of the bad press on Paterno.

    Why?

    Because he's the most recognized person at that school and he deserves it.  He had the power to take this to the proper people, get that piece of sh!t out of there, protect those kids.

    And he didn't.

    And for that...he deserves much more than some bad f*cking press.

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  • imageVaaaJeana:

    I don't care who it was, if I walked in and saw such an awful, unimaginable thing, I would have grabbed the boy and marched right to the f*cking police.  I don't care WHO the rapist was, what school it was, what stupid f*cking football dynasty and legendary coaching staff there was to uphold.

    AMEN!!!! add to that I would have kicked the guy right in his schit!

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  • imageVaaaJeana:

    The fact that any of this was covered up, by this supposed "god" of football...all because no one wanted to tarnish the good name of Penn State, the football program, it's coaches and staff, and yes...Paterno...makes it all the more infuriating.

    Football is a sport.  Period.  And it certainly shouldn't be priority over the saftey and well-being of a child.

    Paterno, to me...is just as guilty as any of the others.  Someone came to him reporting witnessing a boy being ANALLY RAPED in a shower by Sandusky.  He reported it to campus police and that was it.  Don't even get me started on that graduate assistant who did NOTHING to stop that b*stard from raping that poor boy.  I don't care who it was, if I walked in and saw such an awful, unimaginable thing, I would have grabbed the boy and marched right to the f*cking police.  I don't care WHO the rapist was, what school it was, what stupid f*cking football dynasty and legendary coaching staff there was to uphold.

    I am fairly furious that people are feeling bad that Paterno is getting bad press for this.  Um, that douchelord needs more than bad press.

    And he needs to quit.  Now.  Not at the end of the season.

    Amen! 

  • The situation at Penn State is absolutely shocking and disgusting. And the entire nation along with the national media is expressing massive outrage. Why, why, why doesn't this country express the same outrage and take the same stand against the Catholic church? Penn State is one coach. The Catholic church is hundreds of priests and thousands of victims coast to coast and world wide. If the Penn State coach who committed the crimes had been a Catholic priest, he wouldn't be going to jail, he'd have been simply transferred to coach at Notre Dame.

  • imageCoriA:

    The situation at Penn State is absolutely shocking and disgusting. And the entire nation along with the national media is expressing massive outrage. Why, why, why doesn't this country express the same outrage and take the same stand against the Catholic church? Penn State is one coach. The Catholic church is hundreds of priests and thousands of victims coast to coast and world wide. If the Penn State coach who committed the crimes had been a Catholic priest, he wouldn't be going to jail, he'd have been simply transferred to coach at Notre Dame.

    I totally agree with you.

    The only explanation I have for it...religion is harder for Americans to discuss and understand in comparison to football.  People get uncomfortable discussing that of which they don't fully understand or want to learn about, so they sweep it under the rug.

    Disgusting as well.  :(

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  • imageCoriA:

    The situation at Penn State is absolutely shocking and disgusting. And the entire nation along with the national media is expressing massive outrage. Why, why, why doesn't this country express the same outrage and take the same stand against the Catholic church? Penn State is one coach. The Catholic church is hundreds of priests and thousands of victims coast to coast and world wide. If the Penn State coach who committed the crimes had been a Catholic priest, he wouldn't be going to jail, he'd have been simply transferred to coach at Notre Dame.

    Great question, and who the hell knows.  Stuff happened at my high school that I am AMAZED was not all over (at minimum) local media.

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  • We can see why our state statute http://nebraskalegislature.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=28-711 is in place.    

     http://www.hhs.state.ne.us/cha/chaindex.htm

    I wonder if there is a similar Pennsylvania statute in place which requires anyone who has reasonable cause to believe there is abuse has to report it.   It should not gone through these private chain of commands and should have been in place with the proper authorities every single time. 

    Perfect example of people not wanting to "get involved" and this went on for years.   We only know about the examples we read... just imagine how many other victims are out there.   This just shows how many times he was "caught".   Scary.  

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    We can see why our state statute http://nebraskalegislature.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=28-711 is in place.    

     http://www.hhs.state.ne.us/cha/chaindex.htm

    I wonder if there is a similar Pennsylvania statute in place which requires anyone who has reasonable cause to believe there is abuse has to report it.   It should not gone through these private chain of commands and should have been in place with the proper authorities every single time. 

    Perfect example of people not wanting to "get involved" and this went on for years.   We only know about the examples we read... just imagine how many other victims are out there.   This just shows how many times he was "caught".   Scary.  

    I heard on the radio this morning that their laws on that are much more lax than they are here.  Howwwwever, morally...

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  • imageCoriA:

    The situation at Penn State is absolutely shocking and disgusting. And the entire nation along with the national media is expressing massive outrage. Why, why, why doesn't this country express the same outrage and take the same stand against the Catholic church? Penn State is one coach. The Catholic church is hundreds of priests and thousands of victims coast to coast and world wide. If the Penn State coach who committed the crimes had been a Catholic priest, he wouldn't be going to jail, he'd have been simply transferred to coach at Notre Dame.

    Because a whole lot of people care more about Joe Pa and his team then God and his team.  More peeps are watching ESPN then CNN??  :) Sad.

  • imageCoriA:

    The situation at Penn State is absolutely shocking and disgusting. And the entire nation along with the national media is expressing massive outrage. Why, why, why doesn't this country express the same outrage and take the same stand against the Catholic church? Penn State is one coach. The Catholic church is hundreds of priests and thousands of victims coast to coast and world wide. If the Penn State coach who committed the crimes had been a Catholic priest, he wouldn't be going to jail, he'd have been simply transferred to coach at Notre Dame.

    The Catholic Church problem is definitely worldwide. It's about the abuse of power, "cult-like", the attached article says, and a culture of secrecy...

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/11/07/how-penn-state-and-the-catholic-church-covered-up-sexual-abuse-and-what-we-can-do-to-stop-it/

  • Quick question.....how did this all come to light? This happened over 10 yrs or more ago. Did someone come forward? Like Ihavnt been following much but read theReport and wowzer. So much bigger than whatI thought it was.
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    imageCoriA:

    The situation at Penn State is absolutely shocking and disgusting. And the entire nation along with the national media is expressing massive outrage. Why, why, why doesn't this country express the same outrage and take the same stand against the Catholic church? Penn State is one coach. The Catholic church is hundreds of priests and thousands of victims coast to coast and world wide. If the Penn State coach who committed the crimes had been a Catholic priest, he wouldn't be going to jail, he'd have been simply transferred to coach at Notre Dame.

    The Catholic Church problem is definitely worldwide. It's about the abuse of power, "cult-like", the attached article says, and a culture of secrecy...

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/11/07/how-penn-state-and-the-catholic-church-covered-up-sexual-abuse-and-what-we-can-do-to-stop-it/

    aaaaaand Lincoln Diocese has the one Bishop who won't acknowledge the disgusting things that have happened in the Church....fabulous, buddy.

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  • I agree, Jamie.  Why the disparity between the reaction to PSU and the priest sex abuse cases.  It's disgusting.  Yet another reason I can't support the Catholic Church...in any way.

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  • absolutely. Don't get me started on the Lincoln Archdiocese. talk about cult-like.

  • imageworkerbee82:

    absolutely. Don't get me started on the Lincoln Archdiocese. talk about cult-like.

    The Bishop, totally.  But, (as a super liberal catholic in the Lincoln Diocese) there are parishes that are very much not this way.

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  • imagemelgul001:
    Quick question.....how did this all come to light? This happened over 10 yrs or more ago. Did someone come forward? Like Ihavnt been following much but read theReport and wowzer. So much bigger than whatI thought it was.

    I was wondering this same thing.

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