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Re: Have we not discussed this Penn State debacle?
The whole situation is disgusting and makes me sick to think about what else was covered up. All of these men should lose their jobs immediately and be placed in jail. Not helping an innocent child is inexcusable. Period.
The whole situation is horrific. And I agree completely with Tiff on there is a special place in hell for people like this. Have fun taking your wins to hell with you.
On a different note I am SICK of people posting on FB about the Joe P. and what a horrible person he is then finishing with. Hope NE gives them a big kick in the arse this weekend. WHAT? You are taking a horrible situation then bringing our football team into it as if by them beating the "penn players" who had nothing to do with the situation that makes it okay. Ugh.
Like I said on Married Life earlier, these are the kind of football fans that I can't stand. There are things bigger than football. Even Nebraska Husker or Penn State Nittnay Lion football. Idiots.
It makes me sick to my stomach just listening to the news about this. Those poor boys. I would beat the ever living sense out of someone that was hurting a child (maybe not literally, but I'd want to hurt them). The adult is supposed to know better.
Shame on the disgusting pervert and all of those who witnessed or heard about the criminal act happening and did nothing about it.
Okay, really strange, I thought I replied to this post at lunch, but I dont' see my response.
Anyway - my thoughts were (and are) - this whole situation is absolutely horrible. I think there should be jobs lost and criminal prosecution for a lot of people, including Joe Pa.
There are legal requirements. Which they are actually hiding behind, IMO. But the bigger issue is the MORAL requirement, which was ignored.
I agree, special place in hell for people like this. Sick. Sick. Sick.
I deleted my original post supporting paterno after I read the Grand Jury report. So your comment may have been attached to that and so when I deleted my initial comment, it deleted everything attached to that.
Sandusky was finally arrested
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7212054/key-dates-penn-state-nittany-lions-sex-abuse-case
I've been following it pretty close partly because we are going to the Penn State-Nebraska game on Saturday (planned long before all of this).
TTC #1 since 08/11 IUI#2 = BFP!
I think it's because people love the Catholic Church and don't want to feel like they're a part of something with this type of dirty laundry. People aren't actually tied to Penn State in any way so it's easier to point fingers and blame because there's that lack of human factor, whereas with the Catholic Church they have their own experiences (good or bad) and are willing to justify it in their minds to themselves.
We were supposed to be at the game as well, but decided not to go after we sold our house and knew we were going to be moving last month...I grew up in northeastern PA, and my whole family still lives there. My uncle has the lion head painted on his garage and a 6 foot statue of the lion in his front yard; to say he's upset is an understatement. It's horrific what's happening and it makes me incredibly sad.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7214380/joe-paterno-president-graham-spanier-penn-state
Joe Pa and Spanier are out
TTC #1 since 08/11 IUI#2 = BFP!
Well, I'm a Catholic and am not at all willing to justify what happened in the Church, in my mind, to myself. I am still a member of the Church with all its flaws, but I don't defend the leadership. It was wrong--inexplicable why more weren't prosecuted. I agree with CoriA. Both scandals are mortifying. I do not accept any reasoning from these two groups of people both at PState and the Roman Catholic Church that they could witness these things and not call the police. No way.
No. Way.
Devil's advocate here: So you're willing to be a part of an organization that hides and tries to cover up sexual abuse? How is it that you're not guilty for not stopping it?
Non Catholic here - that is a bit of a reach and frankly out of line.
I agree with Smiles. That's like saying that any student that went to Penn State during the decade or whatever that this abuse was taking place was somehow responsible as well.
Apples to oranges.
The difference being that some people KNEW via either first hand knowledge or other avenues that this abuse was going on and HAD THE POWER to stop it. And didn't. Instead, they chose to ignore it or cover it up.
Right VaaaJeana exactly...guess that's what I was trying to say. Maybe my post wasn?t very clear and that led to a sort of sweeping generalization?so yes, I guess the short answer to the Devils Advocate question is yes I am willing to be a part of the Catholic Church. It?s a giant, flawed institution run by good and bad people, like every large organization.
Generalizing scandals like this might be like assuming that every member of the U.S. Military is ?guilty? when an incident like Abu Ghraib happens...and that's not how it is. As a US citizen I?m fed up with the ongoing corruption in the US Government, but that doesn't make me guilty of corruption and I?m not leaving the country and moving to Canada in protest.
My point remains, that while I can support and be a part of an institution, I have a responsibility as part of any such institution, no matter how 'respected' it is, to remain vigilant and not just blindly accept illegal behavior when I see it, regardless of those in positions in power. Those people should have called the police 9 years ago.
That?s just how I feel about it. I hope that clarifies a little bit.
Really?
I have PLENTY of qualms with the Catholic Church... PLENTY. Heck, I could easily be excommunicated here in Lincoln under Bishop B.
BUT this statement? Ridiculous.
I, in no way, condone what has happened in the Church. It doesn't mean that I can't attend Mass and believe in the principles of the Church that I believe in.
I am Catholic because I believe in certain things.. I go to Mass to get out of what what I want to get out of it--cafeteria Catholic, yeah. Totally. I don't see anything wrong with not buying into something 100%, I support gay rights--human rights too boot, I am pro-choice, etc. I think researching anything you believe in and taking from it what gives you a good relationship with whoever (or whatever) you believe in is the responsible way to do things.
Do I support the church cover up of a pedophila situation (which, for the record, is 2% across the board--from Catholic to Jewish, to Protestant, Buddhist, etc despite the Catholic's sh!tty way of dealing with it) of course I don't. I also don't sit outside Planned Parenthood or give money to efforts to close their operations.
Do I support that the Bishop won't sign the acknowledgement of the situation, not at all... and I'm fairly vocal of my thoughts on some of his actions....but I can't choose to belong to another diocese.....