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Throwdown Thursday

Same rules apply -- call 'em as you see 'em!  Anything goes, but be prepared to put up a fight. Let's hear it!
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  • All right... I'll start.  *rolls up sleeves*

    People who have money and either don't realize how lucky they are, or know how forunate they are yet don't care how it affects those around them to talk about it.  IE -- Amber with her $100k wedding... or some girls with their $2k handbags.  I WISH!!! 

    People who really don't want to follow-through with plans so they make up an excuse to get out of them, or try to... just cancel if it's something you don't want to do.  Don't give bullsh!t excuses.

    People who can talk about only one thing.  Yes.  OK.  You have something awesome going on in your life.  WE GET IT.

    Women who aren't mothers giving mothers advice.  I know too many people like this.  Irritates the p!ss outta me.  You don't know, no matter how many books you read, so stop trying to tell me what I should or should not do.

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  • Also -- I think working with family has been one of the worst decisions I have ever made.  Here I thought I was doing them a favor.... with my sister, I could tolerate it.  With both my sister and my mother, it's like growing up all over again, and all they do is gang up on me.  I swear, if anything is going to drive me away from this job, that's it... and it's no one's fault but my own.
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  • So..There is this guys at my job who has a baby on the way in about 3 weeks. All he can talk about is going to look at new cars, and I mean he want to look at the new the  chrysler 200,  cadillac escalade, and makes a comment yesterday he has an appt on Friday to look at a yukon denali. So of course I can't help my self but say something. "Dude you have a kid on the way" why are you looking at new cars you should be saving for diapers, clothes, etc.  Meanwhile he make $11 per hr. My boss asked him to go get black electrical tape and he said well I didn't get paid yet so i'll bring it in tomorrow. You can't buy $3 electrical tape but can look at fancy cars. I know its none of my business and it doesn't effect me at all but I just can't help myself, if your going to brag about it in the office then I'm gonna say something, and maybe it's b/c I had a miscarriage and we were due so close and I'm just looking at what I would of done vs. what hes doing, and maybe i'm jealous that i'm not pregnant and I know it stupid but i guess whats it.
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  • I am sick of lazy a** social workers not doing their job. I wont get into specifics so I won't get fired. There is so much that goes on here that never would have flied in my old office.
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  • DH made fun of my nesting this morning. He reads some forums and gets really OCD about clicking through all the threads so they aren't highlighted anymore, and he delayed our showers this morning by his OCD forum clicking, so I teased him about it. Then he called ME OCD because I look at the nest all day. Gasp! I only read like 3 folders, and I don't read every single thread. Besides, my FRIENDS live in here. Weenie. 

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    DH made fun of my nesting this morning. He reads some forums and gets really OCD about clicking through all the threads so they aren't highlighted anymore, and he delayed our showers this morning by his OCD forum clicking, so I teased him about it. Then he called ME OCD because I look at the nest all day. Gasp! I only read like 3 folders, and I don't read every single thread. Besides, my FRIENDS live in here. Weenie. 

    I discovered I was the same way, and thats why I'm glad TN has the "Mark All Read" at the bottom of the board. =)

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  • imageBoxer06:
    So..There is this guys at my job who has a baby on the way in about 3 weeks. All he can talk about is going to look at new cars, and I mean he want to look at the new the  chrysler 200,  cadillac escalade, and makes a comment yesterday he has an appt on Friday to look at a yukon denali. So of course I can't help my self but say something. "Dude you have a kid on the way" why are you looking at new cars you should be saving for diapers, clothes, etc.  Meanwhile he make $11 per hr. My boss asked him to go get black electrical tape and he said well I didn't get paid yet so i'll bring it in tomorrow. You can't buy $3 electrical tape but can look at fancy cars. I know its none of my business and it doesn't effect me at all but I just can't help myself, if your going to brag about it in the office then I'm gonna say something, and maybe it's b/c I had a miscarriage and we were due so close and I'm just looking at what I would of done vs. what hes doing, and maybe i'm jealous that i'm not pregnant and I know it stupid but i guess whats it.

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    *it's

    *affect

    *you're

    *going to

    *would have or would've

    *he's

    *it's

    *not sure what you meant by whats it

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  • I am highly annoyed at the management company.  I am going home at 12:30 to supervise their work, not because I don't think Kirk won't do a good job, but because I have spent the last 4 days scrubbing, wiping, sanitizing and attempting to make the place habitable and I want to make sure they do every. last. thing.

    Kirk needs to buck up and help with the house.  As important as organizing his xbox games is, it is infinitely more important to flucking unpack boxes.  And hang things. And clean things. 

    Oh, and he keeps calling me with stupid work related issues.  "Is there a Kinko's at X street and Y?" No, there's not.  Kinko's website is out of date.  If you'd clicked the map button and found the one that actually exists and is closer to you, you could've saved some time.  I am not your personal Google.

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  • imagetdmd09:

    DH made fun of my nesting this morning. He reads some forums and gets really OCD about clicking through all the threads so they aren't highlighted anymore, and he delayed our showers this morning by his OCD forum clicking, so I teased him about it. Then he called ME OCD because I look at the nest all day. Gasp! I only read like 3 folders, and I don't read every single thread. Besides, my FRIENDS live in here. Weenie. 

    True dat. The weenie part made me lol.

    Reminds of last night and DH finding a reason to throw the term "chubby" into the conversation in regards to his junk.

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    imageBoxer06:
    So..There is this guys at my job who has a baby on the way in about 3 weeks. All he can talk about is going to look at new cars, and I mean he want to look at the new the  chrysler 200,  cadillac escalade, and makes a comment yesterday he has an appt on Friday to look at a yukon denali. So of course I can't help my self but say something. "Dude you have a kid on the way" why are you looking at new cars you should be saving for diapers, clothes, etc.  Meanwhile he make $11 per hr. My boss asked him to go get black electrical tape and he said well I didn't get paid yet so i'll bring it in tomorrow. You can't buy $3 electrical tape but can look at fancy cars. I know its none of my business and it doesn't effect me at all but I just can't help myself, if your going to brag about it in the office then I'm gonna say something, and maybe it's b/c I had a miscarriage and we were due so close and I'm just looking at what I would of done vs. what hes doing, and maybe i'm jealous that i'm not pregnant and I know it stupid but i guess whats it.

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    *went

    *myself

    *makes

    *it's

    *affect

    *you're

    *going to

    *would have or would've

    *he's

    *it's

    *not sure what you meant by whats it

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    Your absolutely right.... I'm posting from my phone sorry :( ..

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  • People who say their kids are picky eaters and then complain about it have no one to blame but themselves.

    I abhor the media sometimes. I dont know why broadcasting "news" to the whole world, which is clearly skewed by opinion, is acceptable. I think people who have no personal investment in an issue that get all riled up or defensive about it are a product of the media running this country and its really sad to me.

    I also find it offensive when people who have no investment in a person or an event get so emotional about it. Just a for instance, I think its disrespectful to the actual family and friends of a celebrity when they pass and people are crying over them. So you liked Michael Jackson's Thriller moves, does that mean you should sob in the street over him when you were a wee fetus at the height of his fame? No. It does not.

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    imageNunu&Eddie:

    Not even touching punctuation or capitalization. It's Throwdown Thursday, so it's fair game.

    Your absolutely right.... I'm posting from my phone sorry :( ..

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  • imageMBMcC421:
    imageBoxer06:
    imageNunu&Eddie:

    Not even touching punctuation or capitalization. It's Throwdown Thursday, so it's fair game.

    Your absolutely right.... I'm posting from my phone sorry :( ..

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  • imageMBMcC421:
    imagetdmd09:

    DH made fun of my nesting this morning. He reads some forums and gets really OCD about clicking through all the threads so they aren't highlighted anymore, and he delayed our showers this morning by his OCD forum clicking, so I teased him about it. Then he called ME OCD because I look at the nest all day. Gasp! I only read like 3 folders, and I don't read every single thread. Besides, my FRIENDS live in here. Weenie. 

    I discovered I was the same way, and thats why I'm glad TN has the "Mark All Read" at the bottom of the board. =)

    OMG. What? I never noticed this before. Awesome, awesome, awesome.

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  • imageNunu&Eddie:

    imageBoxer06:
    So..There is this guys at my job who has a baby on the way in about 3 weeks. All he can talk about is going to look at new cars, and I mean he want to look at the new the  chrysler 200,  cadillac escalade, and makes a comment yesterday he has an appt on Friday to look at a yukon denali. So of course I can't help my self but say something. "Dude you have a kid on the way" why are you looking at new cars you should be saving for diapers, clothes, etc.  Meanwhile he make $11 per hr. My boss asked him to go get black electrical tape and he said well I didn't get paid yet so i'll bring it in tomorrow. You can't buy $3 electrical tape but can look at fancy cars. I know its none of my business and it doesn't effect me at all but I just can't help myself, if your going to brag about it in the office then I'm gonna say something, and maybe it's b/c I had a miscarriage and we were due so close and I'm just looking at what I would of done vs. what hes doing, and maybe i'm jealous that i'm not pregnant and I know it stupid but i guess whats it.

    *guy

    *went

    *myself

    *makes

    *it's

    *affect

    *you're

    *going to

    *would have or would've

    *he's

    *it's

    *not sure what you meant by whats it

    Not even touching punctuation or capitalization. It's Throwdown Thursday, so it's fair game.

    Nunu, how about you actually participate in conversations? It seems to me that the only time you chime in is to correct someone's grammar or make them feel stupid. What's the last productive thing you said on this board?

  • imagesteeser03:

    I also find it offensive when people who have no investment in a person or an event get so emotional about it. Just a for instance, I think its disrespectful to the actual family and friends of a celebrity when they pass and people are crying over them. So you liked Michael Jackson's Thriller moves, does that mean you should sob in the street over him when you were a wee fetus at the height of his fame? No. It does not.

    ITA with this. There was a post yesterday on the Entertainment board about crying over celebrity deaths and I was like WHAATTT? I'm a crier, and I love me some celebrities, but I have never cried over a celebrity death. That's just crazy.

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    Nunu, how about you actually participate in conversations? It seems to me that the only time you chime in is to correct someone's grammar or make them feel stupid. What's the last productive thing you said on this board?

     You have your history mixed up. I don't think I have corrected someone's grammar or made someone feel stupid in a very very very long time. I have, however, given plenty of BR-advice to those who have asked. I am guessing you don't read those posts. 

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  • imageNunu&Eddie:
    imageDiamond_Doll:

    Nunu, how about you actually participate in conversations? It seems to me that the only time you chime in is to correct someone's grammar or make them feel stupid. What's the last productive thing you said on this board?

     You have your history mixed up. I don't think I have corrected someone's grammar or made someone feel stupid in a very very very long time. I have, however, given plenty of BR-advice to those who have asked. I am guessing you don't read those posts. 

    Actually, on Halloween, you made sure to correct Manny's grammar. You didn't post anything else that day. You haven't posted anything else today other than this. I'm sure I could think of other examples, but I see your face once in a blue moon and (granted, unless it's something BR) it's usually a little snarky. It would be nice if you'd participate, rather than lurking the board looking for someone to correct.

  • imageDiamond_Doll:
    imageNunu&Eddie:
    imageDiamond_Doll:

    Nunu, how about you actually participate in conversations? It seems to me that the only time you chime in is to correct someone's grammar or make them feel stupid. What's the last productive thing you said on this board?

     You have your history mixed up. I don't think I have corrected someone's grammar or made someone feel stupid in a very very very long time. I have, however, given plenty of BR-advice to those who have asked. I am guessing you don't read those posts. 

    Actually, on Halloween, you made sure to correct Manny's grammar. You didn't post anything else that day. You haven't posted anything else today other than this. I'm sure I could think of other examples, but I see your face once in a blue moon and (granted, unless it's something BR) it's usually a little snarky. It would be nice if you'd participate, rather than lurking the board looking for someone to correct.

    LOL. Yes, I did. Manny would have never made that mistake. *snort*

    There are plenty of grammar and spelling mistakes I see that I don't correct. I like to show restraint, I guess.

    Sadly, other than a few BR posts, there isn't much that is of interest to me. I only check-in in the morning and at lunchtime, so I miss most of the posts. I'm not broken up about it.

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    I know my grammar, punctuation, capitalization are terrible, but take it for what it is. I'm trying to participate in posting, instead of hiding behind my computer screen and just lurking. If everyone would like to point it out that's fine by me. 

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  • This isn't board related but my vent of the day I guess.

    In the 5 plus years I've worked at my current job, I've only worn a skirt about 3 times, all within the past month or so. You would think that I would like people stopping me and saying "You look nice today" but how have you thought I looked for the past 5 years? Like a slob? And do you really need to say 'Going somewhere fancy'? If I was, do you think I would be at work?

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  • Couple of repeats but I have to say an "Amen" to:

    ~Women who aren't mothers giving advice or sharing their 2cents... I don't care. I used to be one of those people and I highly regret anything I may have said to offend a mom.

    ~ Children who are picky eaters.  Yeah, there are some foods we just don't like to eat... but going out of your way to accommodate  your child's picky palate is just ridiculous. 

    My own throwdowns:

    ~ I can't stand people throwing their lifestyle choices in my face.  If you want to be a vegan, fine... but don't try to convince me how it's a healthier diet than mine.  I'm pretty sure it's not when you're eating more processed foods in a day than I eat in a week.

    ~ I'm tired of hearing about the Penn State thing. Sarge this isn't referenced to your carpool post. I'm referencing Facebook and the media. 

    ~ I feel like there is way too many conflicting messages in our society today... specifically in regards to weight.  One end of the spectrum is preaching we should accept everyone no matter what their size and it's essentially "OK" to be overweight/obese.  But on the other end we hear all about initiatives to get people more active, requiring restaurants to list the calorie and sodium info on their menus, banning sugary drinks from schools, etc.... So that people can start getting healthier by losing weight.  Which message do we want to drive home?  All I'm hearing is "It's OK to be fat but make sure you watch what you eat and exercise an hour per day so you can lose weight and be healthier." 

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    I know my grammar, punctuation, capitalization are terrible, but take it for what it is. I'm trying to participate in posting, instead of hiding behind my computer screen and just lurking. If everyone would like to point it out that's fine by me. 

     So sorry, I have no idea what happened.... What I was trying to say is, I know my grammar, punctuation, capitalization are terrible, but take it for what it is. I'm trying to participate in postings, instead of hiding behind my computer screen, and just lurk. If everyone would like to point out my flaws that's fine by me. 

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  • imagemrs pH:

    I feel like there is way too many conflicting messages in our society today... specifically in regards to weight.  One end of the spectrum is preaching we should accept everyone no matter what their size and it's essentially "OK" to be overweight/obese.  But on the other end we hear all about initiatives to get people more active, requiring restaurants to list the calorie and sodium info on their menus, banning sugary drinks from schools, etc.... So that people can start getting healthier by losing weight.  Which message do we want to drive home?  All I'm hearing is "It's OK to be fat but make sure you watch what you eat and exercise an hour per day so you can lose weight and be healthier." 

    I think these initiatives are more about people becoming healthy than about becoming skinny. Skinny =/= healthy.

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  • imagedbucks:
    imagemrs pH:

    I feel like there is way too many conflicting messages in our society today... specifically in regards to weight.  One end of the spectrum is preaching we should accept everyone no matter what their size and it's essentially "OK" to be overweight/obese.  But on the other end we hear all about initiatives to get people more active, requiring restaurants to list the calorie and sodium info on their menus, banning sugary drinks from schools, etc.... So that people can start getting healthier by losing weight.  Which message do we want to drive home?  All I'm hearing is "It's OK to be fat but make sure you watch what you eat and exercise an hour per day so you can lose weight and be healthier." 

    I think these initiatives are more about people becoming healthy than about becoming skinny. Skinny =/= healthy.

    You are right skinny =/= healthy... however, a healthy lifestyle usually equals to someone who is of a healthy weight, who most likely is on the thinner side than the heavier side. When you see those ads, they are not showing us pictures of people who are overweight.  

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  • imageMBMcC421:

    Women who aren't mothers giving mothers advice.  I know too many people like this.  Irritates the p!ss outta me.  You don't know, no matter how many books you read, so stop trying to tell me what I should or should not do.

    This is unfair to a certain extent, IMHO. Unsolicited advice I think would be a better way of phrasing it. I know I'm not a mother, but I'm still an educated adult who can form an opinion about something whether or not I've raised a child. I know on occassion I'll chime in on the BR posts here if I feel like I have something I can add, but that advice is obviously solicited and I know that it will only be taken with a grain of salt because I am not a mother. But, I would think it might be good to get the opinion of a non-mother on certain things; it seems to me that women can get so caught up in doing the "right thing" as a mom that it can be helpful to see what people view as "the right thing" in general without mom vision.

    imagemrs pH:

    ~ I feel like there is way too many conflicting messages in our society today... specifically in regards to weight.  One end of the spectrum is preaching we should accept everyone no matter what their size and it's essentially "OK" to be overweight/obese.  But on the other end we hear all about initiatives to get people more active, requiring restaurants to list the calorie and sodium info on their menus, banning sugary drinks from schools, etc.... So that people can start getting healthier by losing weight.  Which message do we want to drive home?  All I'm hearing is "It's OK to be fat but make sure you watch what you eat and exercise an hour per day so you can lose weight and be healthier." 

    This drives me crazy too. I think the issue that comes in with the weight issue is that we should accept everyone despite what they look like, how much they weigh, etc... which is a societal viewpoint and they mix it with an issue that is for individuals to deal with (healthy eating, exercise, so on and so forth). I don't think they're saying it's ok to be fat I think the message is that you should accept other people for who they are but that you should try to be the best, healthiest self you can be. They just do a sh!tty job of portraying that for kids (and adults).

     

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    imagemrs pH:

    ~ I feel like there is way too many conflicting messages in our society today... specifically in regards to weight.  One end of the spectrum is preaching we should accept everyone no matter what their size and it's essentially "OK" to be overweight/obese.  But on the other end we hear all about initiatives to get people more active, requiring restaurants to list the calorie and sodium info on their menus, banning sugary drinks from schools, etc.... So that people can start getting healthier by losing weight.  Which message do we want to drive home?  All I'm hearing is "It's OK to be fat but make sure you watch what you eat and exercise an hour per day so you can lose weight and be healthier." 

    This drives me crazy too. I think the issue that comes in with the weight issue is that we should accept everyone despite what they look like, how much they weigh, etc... which is a societal viewpoint and they mix it with an issue that is for individuals to deal with (healthy eating, exercise, so on and so forth). I don't think they're saying it's ok to be fat I think the message is that you should accept other people for who they are but that you should try to be the best, healthiest self you can be. They just do a sh!tty job of portraying that for kids (and adults).

     

    I think you hit the nail on the head. Thank you for explaining my point better than I can.Smile

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    Women who aren't mothers giving mothers advice.  I know too many people like this.  Irritates the p!ss outta me.  You don't know, no matter how many books you read, so stop trying to tell me what I should or should not do.

    This is unfair to a certain extent, IMHO. Unsolicited advice I think would be a better way of phrasing it. I know I'm not a mother, but I'm still an educated adult who can form an opinion about something whether or not I've raised a child. I know on occassion I'll chime in on the BR posts here if I feel like I have something I can add, but that advice is obviously solicited and I know that it will only be taken with a grain of salt because I am not a mother. But, I would think it might be good to get the opinion of a non-mother on certain things; it seems to me that women can get so caught up in doing the "right thing" as a mom that it can be helpful to see what people view as "the right thing" in general without mom vision.

    Umm, that's kinda almost exactly what I'm talking about.  You can be as educated as you want to be, but being a mom is about experience, and the "right thing" is personal that no one, mom or non-mom, can tell you otherwise.  You may think you have opinions now as a non-mother, but you'd be amazed how fast those can fly out a window when another's existence is 100% on your shoulders.  Least of all, the last thing I personally want to hear is a non-mother give me advice, solicited or not, about how to raise my child.  It's harsh, but it's true because no matter what you may think, you will NEVER know as much as you think you do until you have cared for a child of your own.

    Also, I'm a little offended with that term "mom vision" but I'm letting it slide for now because I'm on the way out the door to get my BOGO Starbucks...

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  • I'm so sick of people who feel like they're entitled to something just because they want it.

    Hypothetical: kid who's a ward of the state turns 18 (is a ward through age 21), meets some stranger online who sends him/her money for a plane ticket, hops on a plane and goes to stay with this stranger in a far away state, calls her/his case worker and lawyer and says that's where he/she will be staying, to leave him/her alone but here's the address where you can send the monthly stipend from the state he/she's a ward of...bratty much?

    Hypothetical #2: a person has something electric in his/her car break. The car still runs fine but there is an annoying buzzing sound in the car. Person complains for 2 days straight about not being able to get it fixed because the schedule he/she made for themselves is too busy so maybe he/she will jsut take a whole day off despite numerous committments to get it taken care of because he/she just cannot wait until Saturday to get it fixed like everyone else.

    Grrrrrr

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    imagelaw67:

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    Women who aren't mothers giving mothers advice.  I know too many people like this.  Irritates the p!ss outta me.  You don't know, no matter how many books you read, so stop trying to tell me what I should or should not do.

    This is unfair to a certain extent, IMHO. Unsolicited advice I think would be a better way of phrasing it. I know I'm not a mother, but I'm still an educated adult who can form an opinion about something whether or not I've raised a child. I know on occassion I'll chime in on the BR posts here if I feel like I have something I can add, but that advice is obviously solicited and I know that it will only be taken with a grain of salt because I am not a mother. But, I would think it might be good to get the opinion of a non-mother on certain things; it seems to me that women can get so caught up in doing the "right thing" as a mom that it can be helpful to see what people view as "the right thing" in general without mom vision.

    Umm, that's kinda almost exactly what I'm talking about.  You can be as educated as you want to be, but being a mom is about experience, and the "right thing" is personal that no one, mom or non-mom, can tell you otherwise.  You may think you have opinions now as a non-mother, but you'd be amazed how fast those can fly out a window when another's existence is 100% on your shoulders.  Least of all, the last thing I personally want to hear is a non-mother give me advice, solicited or not, about how to raise my child.  It's harsh, but it's true because no matter what you may think, you will NEVER know as much as you think you do until you have cared for a child of your own.

    Also, I'm a little offended with that term "mom vision" but I'm letting it slide for now because I'm on the way out the door to get my BOGO Starbucks...

    I agree with you on this, but that's why I said unsolicited advice. If you ask for advice though then you're looking for the opinions of others and I don't think it's fair to say that when you're soliciting advice or opinion from people that only someone who is a mom can have something helpful to contribute.

    I didn't mean anything negative by mom vision; I more meant in terms of what you said about how once a child is realying on you 100% you're going to look at things differently. It was just a way to differentiate without saying mothers and non-mothers again.

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