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Have you ever bought a college paper?
This post got me thinking:
http://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/60418896/ShowThread.aspx#60418896
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I never did because I was convinced a.) It was morally reprehensible b.) I would get caught, suffer shame and get kicked out of college. I saw two students in my department get busted and it was very sobering.
I did pay for a tutoring service to help me with upper division math/science/economics because I was struggling. I did all the work myself though.
Would you or have you ever paid someone to write a paper for you or do work for you for college? What do you think about it?
Re: Have you ever bought a college paper?
That poster pisses me off. If you're going to do something unethical, don't complain when people call you out on it. Plagiarism really gets my goat, especially because plagiarism of this sort (buying custom-made papers) is much more difficult to uncover than your regular "cut and paste from google" plagiarism.
What the effing EFF?
I wrote and took EVERY SINGLE exam and paper to get both my bachelor's and my Ph.D. I'm going to go hug me degrees. I earned every ounce of them and the fact that other people are cheating their way through makes me seriously pissed off.
However, I've seen some crappy crap at really big name schools. My child won't go Ivy League.
This. My writing assignments are so specific that if you weren't in the class and/or didn't do the class readings, I can't imagine you could ever get any higher than a D+. If you want to pay for a D+, more power to you, I suppose.
I just tracked down the article and it's really fascinating if anyone else wants to read it: http://chronicle.com/article/The-Shadow-Scholar/125329/
Bought, no. Sold, yes.
To answer your question Smock, it's in no small part because I was an English major, and to get to the stuff in the higher level courses you have to read roughly the same stuff as the 101 courses, and they force everyone to take one. I could probably write a decent paper on the theme of duty in Othello off the top of my head right now, for instance. But I wouldn't try writing even a 101 level business law or psychology paper.
I do think it's pretty strange that some random non-college student is making this into her own cottage industry. I think it's absolutely unethical regardless but this kind of reminds me of Matthew McConahey in Fast Times.
Yeah, she's an unethical idiot, and a spoiled brat for being offended her friend would dare to enter her 'career field'.
This pissed me off, too, as part of her explanation of the people who buy her services but "deserve their degrees":
Then you ask for a freakin' extension, you don't hire someone else to do the work for you. I did 18 credits towards my M.S. while overseas, and the whole "I'm active duty and I'm doing this from Baghdad" thing bought me a LOT of lieuway with my professors (which I did not take advantage of except for the times I really needed it). Jeez, even in undergrad doing ROTC at a small, liberal institution, if I had a military commitment that conflicted with classwork, my professors were accommodating.
Sorry, if you cheat, you don't deserve your degree.
ARRRGH. And now I'm off to study for the GRE so I can go back to school for my PhD, where I will continue to DO THE WORK MYSELF like a decent human being.
I don't know why this gives me such the rages, but it does.
July 3rd, 2012 ~ Hang in there sweetheart, we can't wait to meet you!
This pisses me off too. I have never bought a paper and never would, nor would I ever write papers for someone else.
I remember having to do a paper while I was working 40 hours a week, putting in 10 hours per week in my practicum placement (doing therapy and the related paperwork), attending practicum class once per week (2 hours) and a non-practicum class twice per week (4-ish hours/night, IIRC). The classes only lasted one month each, so there was no time for slacking. I'd already had to administer an assessment to a willing subject and give a presentation on the assessment tool and the process of administering it, plus I'd been told that my grandmother might be developing Alzheimer's and we went on a weekend trip halfway across the country to visit her. Yet I still managed to finish my paper (albeit with a couple errors), turn it in, and get an A in the class.
So yes, people cheating by buying papers and turning them in as their own pisses me off. I'm not the least bit surprised that she got called out for helping others cheat *or* that she took it so badly, considering that she apparently talks about it publicly already.
omg her blog: http://lettersforourlittleone.blogspot.com/
hahahaha.
Uh, can someone tell me why her spawn needs those mega-cleavage shots at the end? Gross.
OMG, her husband is in the military? His command would JUST LOVE his wife's quality job. It's not like "ethics" is this big thing in the military.
Such an idiot.
July 3rd, 2012 ~ Hang in there sweetheart, we can't wait to meet you!
lolol.
Honestly, she's on the 2nd Tri board with me and I never really see anything positive or nice come from her. I'm not shocked that she's totally cool with running such a skeevy business.
I will say that I don't feel sorry for the folks getting kicked out of school for not submitting their own work though.
I didn't realize that was her. Awesome.
Oh, this is that BSC girl who told her husband she was taking his video games when the baby came, and that he doesn't respond to house fires when he's gaming. I recognize her from the signature photo, in which they look pissed at each other. Also, guy looks like a doucheface. Just does.
ETA: Didn't notice that Froggy noticed this first. I opened the thread and immediately posted this. Oops.
In her blog, in the wedding picture, are she and her husband in front of a trailer? It looks like a trailer.
Looks like it was DD'd before I could read it. Boo.
No, I never paid for any papers or even any tutoring. I should have gotten tutoring in chem but that's another story. But under no circumstances would I pay someone to do my work. Of course, I have an English degree with a writing focus, so papers were kind of my "thing," but even if you hate them ... buying one is just icky and unethical IMO.
PS, Betty (or anyone else who sees this first and knows how), how did you make that open in a new window?
Wowzers.
And now that I've read it, my head hurts.
http://pandce.proboards.com/index.cgi#general