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HIMYM: let's discuss (spoilers)
Holy cow, this episode is full of spoilers. Robin & Barney get married & have 2 kids. (and apparently overcome some fertility issues)
Re: HIMYM: let's discuss (spoilers)
I think this was one of the saddest episodes this season. I loved the AC/DC lights at the end but I feel like Robin has been dragged through the dirt this whole season. I liked the episode overall (other than the fake kids) but it ended up just kind of leaving me sad for Robin because she didn't get to make the choice. It was taken from her.
Maybe I'm getting too attached or looking to far into the show but it kind of bothered me.
I actually liked the storyline. I'm so glad the writers decided to stay true to Robin's character. Married with kids isn't "happily ever after" for everyone, and it was never a goal of Robin's back in the day.
I *loved* the ACDC christmas lights. I was such a sweet friendship moment that this show does so well.
It's the last one for 2011. The rest of the season will resume in January.
No. The kids Robin was talking to were her fake children with barney that only existed in this episode. The show will end in spring of 2013. The season finale of this season will be Barney's wedding, so we are still waiting to find out who barney marries, because Ted meets his wife at that wedding.
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I'm somewhat happy that they aren't giving Robin the typical "happily ever after" because she's always been so career driven. I have to admit I was pulling for Robin and Barney because I love them together, but I can't see Robin happy being a mom.
I agree, overall I thought that the storyline was a good one. It makes total sense that Robin would be crushed at the choice of children being suddenly taken from her. I thought that that part of the story was well-done. And the AC/DC Christmas lights was cute.
But the thing with the imaginary kids ... ugh. I just felt like the writers were playing a dirty trick.
I mean, the episode with the countdown leading to Marshall's father dying was a "punch to the gut" type of thing as well, but it was well done. THIS episode, with the fake kids and being led to believe that Robin and Barney have kids together in the future ... that was just cheap and lazy writing.
I thought this episode was cheap and stupid. They seem to be going nowhere and have run out of ideas. I'm tired of the constant stupid, pointless teasing. The fake kids thing was just too dumb.
I didn't really like how the not wanting children/not being able to have them was treated I don't like how not wanting to have kids is always treated as strange or aberrant. We are so conditioned as a society to feel like wanting kids is normal and you're weird if you don't, esp. women.
Really hated it. I didn't like how I went from liking the episode to hating it. I think this is another show that is going to go the way of "Glee" and "Desperate Housewives" for us.
I wasn't a huge fan of the fake kids thing, but overall the episode was fine for me. I can totally see how Robin would be conflicted about the kids thing. She was confident in the decision because it was hers to make. To find out that it was never really her decision would be tough.
Shows have to go really really far for me to give up on them if I'm invested in the characters. The only one I've ever really given up on is Prison Break, that just got ridiculous. People always seem to want an answer every episode, I guess I'm just along for the ride.
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Agreed. There is a difference between choosing not to have kids and then finding out you don't have a choice at all. Sometimes that makes a person long for what they never really wanted in the first place. So, I thought it was portrayed very well.
I actually really enjoyed this episode. Yes, the ending with the fake kids shocked me a bit. However, did you really think that we'd find out so easily that Barnie and Robin had kids together? Anyone who has watched this show for awhile should have been able to suspect things weren't as they seemed. I didn't find the episode or the turn it took to be "cheap" at all. I think it all will be important (except for Marshall being stuck on the roof) as we lead into the final year.
This.
Agree with all of this.
I really liked this episode, with the exception of the Marshall/roof thing.
It's one thing to decide not to want children but to not even be given the choice is a whole different matter. As somebody who has been dealing with IF issues for years, I tend to think how things would be different if I had children. To me, the fact that she was even talking to the fantasy children was a sign that she DOES want kinds after all.
I guess we'll see where the show takes us.
(although it did annoy me that they had the simple test they'd do to see if she was KU determine that she can't conceive - it takes a hell of a lot more than a simple blood test)
I really couldn't get past this.
I also don't feel like it's "staying true" to Robin's character for them to introduce this. It would be staying true to her character if she did choose it. I do think that her reaction to the news was true, it's weird how taking the choice away can make someone want something they didn't, so I was really sad for her.
I agree that the imaginary kids were a cheap gag.
I've been finding Robin more and more annoying as the series goes on (the same for Ted), but this episode managed to make them both sympathetic and likeable, which was nice. The AC/DC thing was cute.
I like that they didn't make Robin suddenly turn a 180 about kids, and you knew they weren't going to have her abort, so I'm really glad they went the not-pregnant route rather than having her become pregnant and be really happy about it or have a convenient pregnancy loss. Although telling Barney at the point of, "I'm a week late, but I don't know if I'm pregnant..." WTF? You can buy a pregnancy test on any corner, chica, pick one up and THEN tell the one-night-stand-who-is-also-your-best-friend that he might be the father of your child.
The Marshall-on-the-roof thing was really stupid. I thought the kid would at least be from the rival Christmas-light house. And what was his plan if Marshall hadn't have dropped his phone? Those two elements just seemed like really lazy plotting.
I've always thought that Barney could do better than Robin, but now I really REALLY hope they don't end up together, because I think Barney really does want kids and would be a great dad. Maybe that's just my NPH-love talking, but I think they've set the stage for it.
When the gyno called her back into the office, she said, "We ran some more tests" and then told her that she can't have a baby. So it's not like they just ran the one pregnancy test ... but I have never TTC so many of you would be more knowledgeable than me if the "other tests" would be sufficient. Especially when Robin presumably only wanted to see if she was pregnant ... but could they detect fertility issues from a Pap or something like that? And could she really be 100% infertile if she's always been having normal periods (which she said she did in the first scene)?
I practically screamed this at the TV last night. You don't tell a one-night stand "I'm pregnant" like that unless you're positive!!! I wouldn't tell anyone besides my H that I even suspect I'm pregnant unless I've taken at least one or two drugstore tests.
Again, I felt like the writers were going for a cheap shock by having the last episode before this one close with "I'm pregnant [fade to black]." Really good writing doesn't need to rely on stuff like this. Ugh.
Ditto.
I agree, I don't see Robin and Barney ending up together. Especially since Robin didn't want to tell Barney that she's infertile - if she really loved him then I would think that he'd be the first/only person she told. She didn't even want to tell Ted, and Ted is presumably her closest friend in the world.
I really liked this episode right up until the end - like everyone else, I hated the fake kids thing.
I liked this episode because I laughed but there was also an interesting story line, something we haven't seen a whole lot of this season.
Loved the AC/DC lights!
I'm not going to get into the woes of infertility but it definitely takes a lot more testing,
This actually made me so mad. I felt like the writers are just jerking us around more so than usual.
Also, it's sitcom not a sitmakemecry. WTF! I want to laugh not feel bad because someone can't have children. What were they thinking?
I do agree with you. I just don't like how they handled it.
No FREAKING kidding. I mean, the "we ran a couple more tests" could bring up indicators of potential problems, but not the death sentence they gave Robin.