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  • imagesaramc27:
    imagebsn1752:

    Well, that wasn't your original statement, because I can get on board with that.  The thing that irked me was the "Preach! You don't get rewarded for good, smart decisions anymore" in a direct rebuttal to the single mom receiving aid conversation.

    Let's put it this way then - I can respect your message, but work on the delivery.

    The original statement was exactly that.  It wasn't "Preach! You don't get rewarded for good, smart decisions anymore.  And having a child and being a single mother is a dumb, bad decision."  Those were not my words.

    To add... I never once said that you said "having a child and being a single mother is a dumb bad decision"... so now you're putting words in my mouth.  All I did was directly quote you, as I illustrated.

  • This conversation is making me realize how truly bitter I am about things in my past, so in the interest of my new mantra and because I have to go to school since it would be a waste of the interest I am accruing not too, I am out of here ladies.

    See you later in the afternoon, likely with something random to say that is completely unrelated to all of this. Big Smile

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  • imageDFWIndian:
    imageserlace:

    Sara - I'm confused as to what reward you should get for making smart decisions.

    I also paid my way through college with 2+ jobs and student loans.  I feel I received a good education and am happy with the job I have because of that education.  I'm now paying those student loans back.  Should I expect someone to help me pay those back?

    At this point No. Obviously we are working on it ourselves, but holding off something we want in life stings a little. Thinking about it at the time you know how difficult it was and being there at such a young time knowing I did "the right" things with no help when you need it was dishearting. Now I know I'm a better person for it, but if another student didn't have to go through it then I would be for it.

    I guess I just appreciate that I worked hard to get where I am at and didn't have it handed to me.  I do understand your point of view, though, that you didn't qualify for any government aid based on your parents income, when they wouldn't even help you at all.  I also understand the stinging you feel now.  Student loan payments do take a chunk of my income, as well.

  • imagebsn1752:
    imagesaramc27:
    imagelesalyric:
    imageTiffany618:

    So, this is bad...but does anyone else think that some of the Kidd Kraddick Christmas wishes might be fake?

    The one from this morning seemed pretty unrealistic.

     

    Ehh, I don't think they are fake but I think some people are just really, really bad at being surprised or pretending they are surprised.

    This is really flammable but that being said, I understand single mom-hood being difficult and I am a bitter b!tch for this but it burned me a little to know she was probably going to school on grants because she has two kids and no spouse. She didn't mention working, so probably large grants at that.

    Maybe her situation is different but I will never understand why the government awards grants to those who have children above those who are working and waiting to have children at a time when they have finished school/can afford them.

    I have a lot more to say about this but it will just serve to make me appear more bitter than I'd like, so I'll leave it at that.

    PREACH! You don't get rewarded for good, smart decisions anymore.

    Sarah - actually... that's exactly what you said.  Making words up isn't my thing.

    It's Sara. And I didn't say you made up words, but I think you are under the assumption that the words I did write only apply to the single mom scenario or it was a slam on the single mom.  My statement was neither of those.

    It was more of a slam on the system for people in certain situations being given more opportunities to receive educational financial aid.  I think education financial aid should be a level playing ground.

  • I have a month off from school so I am able to post now instead of lurking at night!

    Something unrelated to the current conversation. I have no idea on what I want for Christmas. DH keeps on asking me what I want and I cannot for the life of me, decide on something that I would like. I don't really want any jewelry or any electronics (besides a macbook pro, but that isn't going to happen). I need some motivation ladies!

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  • imageTiffany618:

    Julie - That is sad.   Hopefully her academic record will qualify her for academic scholarships.   I know many, many people who got a full ride based on academics alone.

    I got around a 50% academic scholarship from TCU and I did not even apply for it.  They just gave it to me.

    The awards are definitely out there for those who have worked hard for it.

    I know that she will qualify and I know her mother will do everything she can to make it happen for her senior.  However, there are at least two other children who will still be in school.  I still just feel bad for this girl because I think it would be very easy for her to fall into the bad habits that other here get into but she's stayed out of it.  

    I think they must have changed how they give out these things because, in 1993, my parents made $60k together (gross, so I think that came out to about $48ish-k).  In spite of a house payment, two car payments and another child living at home, they were told that they could afford to contribute $15k a year to my education.  I laughed because this was the year that we ended up losing our house in spite of my dad's three jobs, etc.  I did two years time at DCCCD and then went to A&M when things were better for my family.  My dad took out signature loans so that I didn't have loans like many of you do.  It's one of the many reasons that I am so very thankful to my dad for his attitude and sacrifice. However, if he could not have taken out loans and it had been me instead, I would have done it.  I might not have gone to A&M but I still would have gone to college and left with loans.    

  • imagesaramc27:

    It was more of a slam on the system for people in certain situations being given more opportunities to receive educational financial aid.  I think education financial aid should be a level playing ground.

    In your viewpoint, what do you think the qualifications for such aid should be based on?

  • imagesaramc27:
    imagebsn1752:
    imagesaramc27:
    imagelesalyric:
    imageTiffany618:

    So, this is bad...but does anyone else think that some of the Kidd Kraddick Christmas wishes might be fake?

    The one from this morning seemed pretty unrealistic.

     

    Ehh, I don't think they are fake but I think some people are just really, really bad at being surprised or pretending they are surprised.

    This is really flammable but that being said, I understand single mom-hood being difficult and I am a bitter b!tch for this but it burned me a little to know she was probably going to school on grants because she has two kids and no spouse. She didn't mention working, so probably large grants at that.

    Maybe her situation is different but I will never understand why the government awards grants to those who have children above those who are working and waiting to have children at a time when they have finished school/can afford them.

    I have a lot more to say about this but it will just serve to make me appear more bitter than I'd like, so I'll leave it at that.

    PREACH! You don't get rewarded for good, smart decisions anymore.

    Sarah - actually... that's exactly what you said.  Making words up isn't my thing.

    It's Sara. And I didn't say you made up words, but I think you are under the assumption that the words I did write only apply to the single mom scenario or it was a slam on the single mom.  My statement was neither of those.

    It was more of a slam on the system for people in certain situations being given more opportunities to receive educational financial aid.  I think education financial aid should be a level playing ground.

    Excuse my typo.

    Assumption or the way that I took it based on the conversation.  Either way, like I said before... I can appreciate your message and your stance, but the delivery needs work.

  • imagetnickel06:

    I have a month off from school so I am able to post now instead of lurking at night!

    Something unrelated to the current conversation. I have no idea on what I want for Christmas. DH keeps on asking me what I want and I cannot for the life of me, decide on something that I would like. I don't really want any jewelry or any electronics (besides a macbook pro, but that isn't going to happen). I need some motivation ladies!

    I want a Mia Clarisonic (the face scrubbers), a cloth Coach iPad cover ($98 and I have a coupon for 25% off), the complete Law & Order series (in spite of what Tiffany thinks about it Stick out tongue ), the complete Star Wars saga on blu ray, iTunes gift cards and tickets to when A&M and Tech play their basketball game in College Station (ps:  it's Jan. 14th which is a Saturday and like at 11 AM so you guys could make it very easily from where you are).  

    BTW, I don't remember if I said this here or not, but Bill said his parents have a great idea for a gift for me from them.  I could resist and asked if it was a cow platter to go with the fish platter that is sister got me a couple of years ago.  I just couldn't help myself.

  • imagetnickel06:

    I have a month off from school so I am able to post now instead of lurking at night!

    Something unrelated to the current conversation. I have no idea on what I want for Christmas. DH keeps on asking me what I want and I cannot for the life of me, decide on something that I would like. I don't really want any jewelry or any electronics (besides a macbook pro, but that isn't going to happen). I need some motivation ladies!

    Yay you are posting!!  It sounds like you need a month off after the busy semester you had!

    You said no electronics, but I am hoping to get a Kindle.  Other things that I can think of: Gift card to your favorite clothing store, a scarf, new running shoes (or exercise type shoes), a gift card to your favorite restaurant, new boots, a gift card to get pampered...  I'll keep thinking.  :)

  • imagesaramc27:

    It's Sara.

    As someone who got easily offended by a Starbuck's employee for being called "Jewly", we do have a Sarah, Sara, Lacey and Lacy.  I don't think Brianna did it to be a jerk.  You could have just said "I don't have an h on my name" or "I spell my name without an h."


  • imagejuliebug1997:
    imagesaramc27:

    It's Sara.

    As someone who got easily offended by a Starbuck's employee for being called "Jewly", we do have a Sarah, Sara, Lacey and Lacy.  I don't think Brianna did it to be a jerk.  You could have just said "I don't have an h on my name" or "I spell my name without an h."


    Thanks Juelee.

    Yep, that spelling was hard to come up with!

  • imagebsn1752:

    Thanks Juelee.

    Yep, that spelling was hard to come up with!

    My middle name is Weighne.  

  • imageserlace:
    imagesaramc27:

    It was more of a slam on the system for people in certain situations being given more opportunities to receive educational financial aid.  I think education financial aid should be a level playing ground.

    In your viewpoint, what do you think the qualifications for such aid should be based on?

    In a perfect world, hustle. I think if you have worked hard in high school, you have been willing to seek out the assitance, you have completed the required application/essay you should be considered for the aid.

  • I just wish they would change the way they determine aid for school.  Long story short and minus the anger, neither of my parents wanted to do the tax info and it just had a domino effect.  I was able to pay for NCTC myself but when it came to UNT I couldn't and was told that I had to have my FAFSA on file in order to apply for scholarships and then because I didn't have a FAFSA, I only qualified for private loans and the interest rate can be ridiculous.  Why do I have to pay for my parents stupidity?

    MIL lied to DH about applying for financial assistance and while he had help for school from his family and left school with hardly any debt, we both want to do what we can when it comes to our kids.  It may not be paying for their school as a whole but providing whatever documents we need to in order to get them assistance.  

  • imagesaramc27:
    imageserlace:
    imagesaramc27:

    It was more of a slam on the system for people in certain situations being given more opportunities to receive educational financial aid.  I think education financial aid should be a level playing ground.

    In your viewpoint, what do you think the qualifications for such aid should be based on?

    In a perfect world, hustle. I think if you have worked hard in high school, you have been willing to seek out the assitance, you have completed the required application/essay you should be considered for the aid.

    And that's called a scholarship.

  • Also unrelated, I wanged my head on one of the support bars in the bathroom just now and it really hurts.  I'm still confused as to how I managed to get myself into a position that allowed that to happen.  Wow.
  • imageprofessorscience:
    Also unrelated, I wanged my head on one of the support bars in the bathroom just now and it really hurts.  I'm still confused as to how I managed to get myself into a position that allowed that to happen.  Wow.

    Wanged it?! GO SEE A NURSE!

  • imagebsn1752:

    And that's called a scholarship.

    The problem with scholarships is that they rarely cover the full cost of college anymore, and the ones that do are offered to one or two students per university.  That has much more to do with the extortion colleges are getting away with, but still.

  • imagebsn1752:

    imageprofessorscience:
    Also unrelated, I wanged my head on one of the support bars in the bathroom just now and it really hurts.  I'm still confused as to how I managed to get myself into a position that allowed that to happen.  Wow.

    Wanged it?! GO SEE A NURSE!

    Hahahaha.  My Futurama references always get me into trouble.  ;)

  • imagejuliebug1997:
    imagesaramc27:

    It's Sara.

    As someone who got easily offended by a Starbuck's employee for being called "Jewly", we do have a Sarah, Sara, Lacey and Lacy.  I don't think Brianna did it to be a jerk.  You could have just said "I don't have an h on my name" or "I spell my name without an h."


    I didn't think or imply that she was trying to be a jerk about it.  I just simply stated, "It's Sara."

    Obviously, I can't say much that is right today.

  • imageprofessorscience:
    imagebsn1752:

    And that's called a scholarship.

    The problem with scholarships is that they rarely cover the full cost of college anymore, and the ones that do are offered to one or two students per university.  That has much more to do with the extortion colleges are getting away with, but still.

    True... but that's exactly what Sara was describing.  The process of receiving a scholarship.

    Financial aid is based on financial need.  End of story.

  • imagetnickel06:

    I have a month off from school so I am able to post now instead of lurking at night!

    Something unrelated to the current conversation. I have no idea on what I want for Christmas. DH keeps on asking me what I want and I cannot for the life of me, decide on something that I would like. I don't really want any jewelry or any electronics (besides a macbook pro, but that isn't going to happen). I need some motivation ladies!

    I know DH wants silly stuff like a remote control helicopter (the ones in the mall), Cars 2 or Hang Over two movie, a softball glove, and just some practical things. What is your DH into?

  • imagebsn1752:
    imagesaramc27:
    imageserlace:
    imagesaramc27:

    It was more of a slam on the system for people in certain situations being given more opportunities to receive educational financial aid.  I think education financial aid should be a level playing ground.

    In your viewpoint, what do you think the qualifications for such aid should be based on?

    In a perfect world, hustle. I think if you have worked hard in high school, you have been willing to seek out the assitance, you have completed the required application/essay you should be considered for the aid.

    And that's called a scholarship.

    Nothing I say today is going to work for you!

  • imagejuliebug1997:
    imagesaramc27:

    It's Sara.

    As someone who got easily offended by a Starbuck's employee for being called "Jewly", we do have a Sarah, Sara, Lacey and Lacy.  I don't think Brianna did it to be a jerk.  You could have just said "I don't have an h on my name" or "I spell my name without an h."


    I have to say it does bother me when people spell my name without an "h". But I know you didn't mean it Brianna. Also, this makes me laugh everytime Julie. Who has ever spelled the name "Julie" jewly?  i just wonder what that person was thinking :-P

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  • imageshortgirltx:

    Why do I have to pay for my parents stupidity?

    MIL lied to DH about applying for financial assistance and while he had help for school from his family and left school with hardly any debt, we both want to do what we can when it comes to our kids.  It may not be paying for their school as a whole but providing whatever documents we need to in order to get them assistance.  

    You know, I'd like to think that there is a form the government would have available to students who, after a certain age and still live with their parents, could have their parents sign saying "we don't pay for anything for our child any more and we're not consenting to submitting our information in order to help calculate federal aid for this child."  It would need to be notarized, adding even more money into the pockets of your local notary but it doesn't sound like this would be a heavy burden on any one.  And, Jaymi, I think no one should have to pay for their parents' (not students like I said) stupidity.  It's one of the main reasons that I feel sorry for some of the children that I see out with parents who lack a few brain cells.

    And, I think it's very admirable for you to say that you want to do whatever you can for your kids.  I don't know that my mom always agreed with my dad going into debt for six months at a time in order to send me to school but she didn't say anything thing.  

  • Can't we just talk about weddings??  Oh wait....

    Anyway, I'm super busy today and can't keep up with the thread  but Leslie I just wanted to thank you for that super sweet comment.

  • imagetnickel06:

    I have a month off from school so I am able to post now instead of lurking at night!

    Something unrelated to the current conversation. I have no idea on what I want for Christmas. DH keeps on asking me what I want and I cannot for the life of me, decide on something that I would like. I don't really want any jewelry or any electronics (besides a macbook pro, but that isn't going to happen). I need some motivation ladies!

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  • imagejuliebug1997:
    imageshortgirltx:

    Why do I have to pay for my parents stupidity?

    MIL lied to DH about applying for financial assistance and while he had help for school from his family and left school with hardly any debt, we both want to do what we can when it comes to our kids.  It may not be paying for their school as a whole but providing whatever documents we need to in order to get them assistance.  

    You know, I'd like to think that there is a form the government would have available to students who, after a certain age and still live with their parents, could have their parents sign saying "we don't pay for anything for our child any more and we're not consenting to submitting our information in order to help calculate federal aid for this child."  It would need to be notarized, adding even more money into the pockets of your local notary but it doesn't sound like this would be a heavy burden on any one.  And, Jaymi, I think no one should have to pay for their students stupidity.  It's one of the main reasons that I feel sorry for some of the children that I see out with parents who lack a few brain cells.

    And, I think it's very admirable for you to say that you want to do whatever you can for your kids.  I don't know that my mom always agreed with my dad going into debt for six months at a time in order to send me to school but she didn't say anything thing.  

    There is a form, or actually a process, you go through in order to be declared independent before the age of 23 or 24 or whatever the age was then for financial purposes.  I was out of the house before I graduated high school, neither my mom nor my dad was supporting me in any way and I didn't have contact with my mom and hardly saw my dad, maybe twice a year and it was because in my mind at the time, for me to see my grandparents I had to see my dad as they live in the same small city so it's hard to not see one without seeing the other.  My dad would not have anything to do with me for months one year just because I asked if he would be willing to help with the tax info.  "Because you've had contact with one of your parents in the last year, you are still considered dependent."  It was a bust with NCTC and UNT and I applied for it every year. 

  • imagemseale:
    imagetnickel06:

    I have a month off from school so I am able to post now instead of lurking at night!

    Something unrelated to the current conversation. I have no idea on what I want for Christmas. DH keeps on asking me what I want and I cannot for the life of me, decide on something that I would like. I don't really want any jewelry or any electronics (besides a macbook pro, but that isn't going to happen). I need some motivation ladies!

    My default is kitchen goodies.  I've asked for an electric pepper grinder, one of those bamboo salt boxes, and the measuring cups that pop out.

    We got some of those and I love them.  =)

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