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  • I know you are concerned about the house, schooling, credit, etc.  But those can all get better over time.  Let go of him & the house.  Go to an affordable place for you and your daughter.  There are other good schools around I am sure.  Your credit can be repaired as well.  Dont let these things keep you from doing what you know is right!  He is trying to guilt trip you...dont fall for it! 

     Good Luck!!

  • imageducky177:
    What do u think? Possible abuse? He seriously seems like he has aspergers to me. I always assumed it was an anxiety coping skill.. i don;t get during sex either but it is odd..   thought it was him trying to relax.. he mostly does it when he is laying down, sleeping, watching tv sometimes, videogames.. i just blocked it out somehow

    Might be a self-soothing thing that he never got out of. Either way, its not something a grown man should be doing. Also, has he done it his entire adult life? If it is new I would worry about his brain function. 

    Reverting to reptilian or basic instincts can often signal brain damage or even a series of strokes. He needs to stop being a fooking douche & get to the doctor. Tell him that. 

    Don't let him guilt you back into the marriage, but DO tell him that he needs to see a doctor no matter what you choose to do.  Stay strong. 

    You have to face the fact that your H has serious health issues to face. He chose to live a certain way and now the chickens are coming home to roost. I'm not saying he deserves this by any means, but what did he think would happen?

    Also, please try to convince him to see a therapist. You should go to one too. Both of you sound like you could really really use a trained professional to work out major issues in your life. Good luck!

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  • imageducky177:

    you are all so right.. and it does make sense.. Here is another thing in my head though that gets to me.. Our daughter,, knowing that who ever I am with will never love her in the same way as he does. They won't love her in the same way as if she were their own..

    oh and  then he makes these goofy comments like if I end up married to someone else that when she is 14 or 15 they might try to molest her. ? what kind of comment is that>! 

    Being that your H is coming off as a manipulative and negligent creep, the fact that no one will love you like that again is a relief.  If someone like your H told me no one else would love me like that, I'd think, "Well, thank God for that."  He's wielding love like it's a weapon, not an actual emotion he's capable of.

    Also, this whole idea that love is something we experience once in a lifetime is a crock of horseshiit.  And this idea that your DD won't be loved by some future stepparent is another crock of horseshiit.  You know that.  I don't know why you're choosing to listen to him, quite frankly.  As if he's some all-knowing oracle of the future.  That idiot can't even control his diabetes - I wouldn't take life advice from him.   

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  • assuming that this isn't MUDdy, when someone threatens to kill themselves, you call the cops.  Period and fullstop.

    You call, you explain that your soon-to-be-ex is threatening to kill himself.  You give his location.  

    You let a professional evaluate whether or not he's serious.

    If he's just playing a game, this usually stops it.  If he's serious, this is EXACTLY what needs to happen--it creates a paper trail and gets access to professional help. 

  • I have called the police many times now.. nothing happens.. I have called both for his sugar when it goes to like 30 and he gets crazy.. and also when he threatened suicide. the police did nothing. they stated they did not feel he was in danger.
  • oh totally forgot all this..  he also has said that he sees ghosts, spirits, whatever..and that he has an intuition of things.. (im not kidding)  and that he has "seen" images, spirits his whole life..This was his reasoning for sucking his thumb.. due to what he has seen. My counselor thinks it is an excuse for the sucking cause he is embarassed..  And that he is manipulating me obviously.. he told me once that he hears a voice saying to save me.. I am just concerned he actually believes that he is seeing these things.. I told him to talk to his counselor ( yes he is seeing one now) and he said why so i have to see a psychiatrist. Im not crazy.

    I am wondering if its one, manipulation or two, if the diabetes has done damage to his brain. He gets super weird when its low or real high..  oh and the thumb sucking has been forever.. idk what to think of it.. just think he never learned how to self soothe in other ways

  • imageducky177:
    Yes, he does.. If any of you know anything about diabetes or sugar levels this is whats going on.. His sugar might be 130 and an hour later it is 34.  then it will go about to 300.. its major swings in sugar. According to him, up until now he was always running high because he was afraid to go low.. this is the first time since ten years old that he has been consistently checking his blood. i used to open his car door and cupcake and candy bar wrappers would fall out cause that is what he would eat when his suagar would drop.  he would wake up and eat a package of cookies and milk for breakfast. He says that its been difficult psychologically.. I think he wouldn't test or take his blood pressure and cholesterol pills cause he was in denial.. if he didn't do it, he didn't have it.. I can't imagine what is happening to his organs, it is so scary,

    The more I read your story the more your stbxH sounds exactly like that guy I mentioned.

    Not to scare you or anything, but the guy made it to 54. He also developed kidney failure -- he was on dialysis the last 3 years of his life --- and that's what lead to his demise.

    Your stbxH could also be having problems with his blood pressure, his kidneys and circulatory problems.

    I agree with the intensive therapy for you. Somehow you got the idea it was okay to mother a spouse.

  • imageducky177:

    oh totally forgot all this..  he also has said that he sees ghosts, spirits, whatever..and that he has an intuition of things.. (im not kidding)  and that he has "seen" images, spirits his whole life..This was his reasoning for sucking his thumb.. due to what he has seen. My counselor thinks it is an excuse for the sucking cause he is embarassed..  And that he is manipulating me obviously.. he told me once that he hears a voice saying to save me.. I am just concerned he actually believes that he is seeing these things.. I told him to talk to his counselor ( yes he is seeing one now) and he said why so i have to see a psychiatrist. Im not crazy.

    I am wondering if its one, manipulation or two, if the diabetes has done damage to his brain. He gets super weird when its low or real high..  oh and the thumb sucking has been forever.. idk what to think of it.. just think he never learned how to self soothe in other ways

    OK - and what happens if the "spirits" tell him to hurt you or your child? Because that doesn't seem to be out of the question.

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    imageducky177:

    oh totally forgot all this..  he also has said that he sees ghosts, spirits, whatever..and that he has an intuition of things.. (im not kidding)  and that he has "seen" images, spirits his whole life..This was his reasoning for sucking his thumb.. due to what he has seen. My counselor thinks it is an excuse for the sucking cause he is embarassed..  And that he is manipulating me obviously.. he told me once that he hears a voice saying to save me.. I am just concerned he actually believes that he is seeing these things.. I told him to talk to his counselor ( yes he is seeing one now) and he said why so i have to see a psychiatrist. Im not crazy.

    I am wondering if its one, manipulation or two, if the diabetes has done damage to his brain. He gets super weird when its low or real high..  oh and the thumb sucking has been forever.. idk what to think of it.. just think he never learned how to self soothe in other ways

    OK - and what happens if the "spirits" tell him to hurt you or your child? Because that doesn't seem to be out of the question.

    It really is time to say goodbye to this unhealthy marriage and his manipulations. And the sooner the better you and your kiddo get out of there.

    You said you paid for that house? How, then, do you think you'd lose it? Is his name on the deed?

  • Ducky - I'm going to pass on the advice that a therapist gave to my mom when my dad was threatening suicide when she wanted a divorce. You are not God. You don't have any control over his actions. He does. You need to do what is best for you, which will be what is best for your daughter in the end. You aren't taking away her father by divorcing him. He will always be her father.
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