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S/O Poll: Full-body scanners

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Re: S/O Poll: Full-body scanners

  • I have only been on a couple of flights where there was a body scanner and I just went through it, it's not that big a deal to me and it was fairly quick and painless.
  • I mainly opt out for political reasons but am also just plain nervous that nobody is tracking the functionality of the machines.

     My DH used to work around x-ray equipment (he was a security technician and repaired such items).  He was REQUIRED to wear a radiation monitoring badge at all times.  Last time that we both opted out of the scanner, he was chatting with a TSA agent about this and asked why they don't have the badges (not just for around the scanners but for the regular machines themselves).  The agent said that they weren't allowed to wear them but he didn't know why.  That basically cemented for my DH that we would both avoid whenever possible. 

    They are not allowed to wear radiation badges that are commonly used by military folks working around x-rays and hospital staff in similar conditions.  How messed up is that?  I really do feel bad for them.

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  • I opt out, every damn time, for the reasons mxolisi said.  It does not increase my safety, it's expensive, it violates my 4th amendment rights, without even a scrap of evidence of justification.

    A passport to travel domestically?  I can think of a few nations that have required papers authorizing travel.  Hint: they're not freedom loving democracies. 

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  • Personally, I do not opt-out.  My husband does opt-out, and would like me to as well because he is concerned about the radiation, but I have no issues with them at all.  I have issues with TSA in general, and the fact that Americans are willing to forfeit personal freedoms in the name of "safety" but will not allow profiling as used by the Israeli security forces because that could be seen as possibly being racially motivated -- even though in reality it's behavior profiling.  But with the full-body scanners, I have no issues.
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  • These two statements contradict each other. 

    imagedorothyinAus:
    I have issues with TSA in general, and the fact that Americans are willing to forfeit personal freedoms in the name of "safety"

     

    But with the full-body scanners, I have no issues.

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  • imagemxolisi:

    Also WTF to the eating fast food, smoking and drunk driving. I don't do any of these things but I also dont think that eating fast food is a violation of the bill of rights.  

    Yeah, this. 

  • imageSibil:

    I opt out, every damn time, for the reasons mxolisi said.  It does not increase my safety, it's expensive, it violates my 4th amendment rights, without even a scrap of evidence of justification.

    A passport to travel domestically?  I can think of a few nations that have required papers authorizing travel.  Hint: they're not freedom loving democracies. 

    Thank goodness someone else pointed out the absurdity of this idea. 

    Having spent extensive time in Cuba, I will tell you that living under Big Brother isn't appealing. AT ALL. 

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  • No, I do not opt out.  I would rather go through a scanner than be patted down, but if the airline employee is a Channing Tatum clone, I might forgo the scanner for a pat-down.
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    No, I do not opt out.  I would rather go through a scanner than be patted down, but if the airline employee is a Channing Tatum clone, I might forgo the scanner for a pat-down.

    Same sex pat downs only. The TSA is rather heteronormative :) 

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  • imageLaurierGirl28:
    imageSibil:

    I opt out, every damn time, for the reasons mxolisi said.  It does not increase my safety, it's expensive, it violates my 4th amendment rights, without even a scrap of evidence of justification.

    A passport to travel domestically?  I can think of a few nations that have required papers authorizing travel.  Hint: they're not freedom loving democracies. 

    Thank goodness someone else pointed out the absurdity of this idea. 

    Having spent extensive time in Cuba, I will tell you that living under Big Brother isn't appealing. AT ALL. 

    you're over-dramatizing my statement. my point of mentioning passports to travel domestically is for identification purposes (and really-what's the difference-you give your name and info when you book a flight anyway so whoever is watching knows when you fly) but because every state's ID is different and some are very easily forged a passport (or similar wtih bar code or chips) that are much harder to forge would be a good nationwide ID system. instead of someone who works in LA trying to determine if the guy's WA license is legit or not. there's no ID scanners and licenses are very easily forged.

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  • After a pat down I was given by an efficient German security employee in Frankfurt (Woah, lady, that's under the bra!) I don't think an American pat down would kill me. I will probably opt out in the future.
  • I opt out for political reasons. I always end up either in the line with the scanner or get directed towards the scanner. When I travel with my H, it drives me insane because invariably, he will just have to go through the metal detector while I get selected for the full-body scanner. Grrr! Anyway. The one and only time in the past year that I didn't opt out (because I was in a hurry), I ended up having to get a pat down anyway. WTF was that about? You just saw me naked, I'm obviously not hiding anything, so whatthehell? I asked the TSA agent and they gave some stupid reason about metal in my underwire. WHAT? I was so furious I could barely contain myself.
  • imagePAGAS:
    I have never had the option for the full body scanner, I am usually travelling with my daughter and so we go through the regular metal detector.  The times I have flown alone, I just always seem to go through the regular metal detector by chance. 

    It's been the same for me.

    I wouldn't opt out if it came to it, though.

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