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NPCER: Why do all kids menus suck ass?

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Re: NPCER: Why do all kids menus suck ass?

  • imagecookiemdough:
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    Because kids *generally* like to eat crap. We as parents try to rise above the stereotype/half-truth and build their palates, but kids can be picky little snobs.

    We went to an Indian Restaurant the other day, and DD told the waitress very loudly that she wanted to order cheese pizza. I fail as a parent.

     

    (She did end up eating her entire order of Chicken Tikka)

    But that's because that's what we're giving them.

    DD stayed with my sister for the first 15 months of her life and then went to a daycare with a good menu (home cooked meals full of flavor).  She loved veggies and all sorts of foods.  At 18 months we had to switch her daycare b/c of $ and the place serves hot dogs and chicken nuggets on the regular.  "Toddler food".  Now she barely touches anything that isn't bland crap. 

    If we don't offer this crap to our kids, they won't know they like it and grow up healthier b/c of it.  But we do, b/c it's cheap and easy.

    I knew this thread would go there.  

    There are things my son would eat every single day.  And one day he would just suddenly refuse it.  Not because there was some other unhealthy option, but because that is not unusual in kids. Unless my ped was lying to me, going through phases with food is typical.  

    Both of mine were eating broccolli and hummus at 18 months, and plain pasta with grated cheese at 2.

  • imageSibil:
    I'm stuck on something from the first page. Why is it abusing a kids menu to have an adult who wants less food which should then cost less? Given the unreasonably gigantic portion sizes of so many restaurantsit makes perfect sense to do. I can't tell you how often h and I just split an entree, and he still walks away full.

    I wondered this myself.

    Where I am from the kid's portion in the US is equivalent to a regular portion size. Why is it abuse if  I want less food? Why should I pay extra for that?

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    I'm stuck on something from the first page. Why is it abusing a kids menu to have an adult who wants less food which should then cost less? Given the unreasonably gigantic portion sizes of so many restaurantsit makes perfect sense to do. I can't tell you how often h and I just split an entree, and he still walks away full.

     

    This confused me too. When I do eat at McD's I frequently order a Happy Meal, at Culver's I get a snack pack (which is actually a normal amount of food, so don't know why its called that), etc.  I wish more non chain restaurants had the option of smaller portions.

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  • Maybe abuse isn't the right word?  I guess the point is if restaurants wanted to offer smaller portions to adults at a cheaper price they would.  There is no incentive for restaurants who don't offer different portion sizes to make it easy for their patrons to do so.  I just don't think we can complain about "why restaurants don't offer a scaled down version of the same menu choices to kids" and also wonder why it is not in their best interest for adults to then order off the kids menu.  The differences in foods is probably meant to be a deterrent from people doing so.  As long as they offer a couple of healthy options for parents that want that on the kids menu, I don't have an issue with not making the "kids menu" some extensive option that will then steer their adult patrons towards that cheaper option.  
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  • Kids menus are that way because there are alot of parents that think that's all their kids will eat. Meaning that is all they feed them. No joke I have a cousin that brings frozen chicken nuggets to every dinner we have. Thanksgiving, Christmas, even outings. We went out to dinner for my grandmother's birthday and instead of ordering her kids food she brought chicken nuggets and golfish crackers.
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    Kids menus are that way because there are alot of parents that think that's all their kids will eat. Meaning that is all they feed them. No joke I have a cousin that brings frozen chicken nuggets to every dinner we have. Thanksgiving, Christmas, even outings. We went out to dinner for my grandmother's birthday and instead of ordering her kids food she brought chicken nuggets and golfish crackers.

    I am not even sure why I am defending the kids menu because I don't frequently make use of it.  But here goes...while I think there is something to criticize bringing nuggets to Thanksgiving, I don't think bringing or ordering something you know your kid will eat is such a bad thing at a public place.  If that happens to be a nugget then so be it.  I just don't think restaurants are the place to have food battles.  I will only order something that I know my now picky eater (formerly ate everything in sight) will eat without encouragement.  It doesn't mean that is all that I feed him at home if he decides to have a bread and butter fest.  But I am not going to do the whole "you must have five bites of XYZ" before milk at a restaurant.  Sometimes at home it is easy and sometimes it can start WWIII with a picky eater.  I choose not to risk WWIII in the restaurant.  

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  • I don't understand the upset on kids menus. Looking at the menu in question, the adult options certainly aren't the picture of healthy eating.  Going to a restaurant is a treat. Eating off the kids menu can be fun. Is it healthy to have mac & cheese or hot dogs or pizza for every meal? No. But unless parents are taking their kids out to eat for every single meal, what's the harm in enjoying a few chicken nuggets, some fries, and chocolate milk once in a while?

    Further more, if you hate the kids menu, don't order from it. There are plenty of options on restaurant menus to provide a healthy alternative or balance to "fun foods."


  • Agreed, cookie, especially since when I go out to eat, I order up some not so healthy but oh so tasty options cooked in a pretty damned unhealthy manner and served up with some butter and cheese laden side dishes sprinkled with bacon.

    If I'm gonna have cheese fries, steak slathered in cream sauce, loaded mashed, and a sweet ass margarita then who am I to tell the kids they have to eat grilled chicken (slathered in fake butter usually) and broccoli?

    I'm really not sure why we're making assumptions about how people feed their kids based on a night out at a restaurant.



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  • imageevol:
    Kids menus are that way because there are alot of parents that think that's all their kids will eat. Meaning that is all they feed them.

    I agree. My youngest nephew is 3 months older than my LO and during the holidays (when he was 14mos) all we ever saw him eat was stage 1 purees mixed w/ oatmeal and chicken nuggets w/ fries. That, plus toddler formula, is all my brother and SIL ever offered him, despite the abundance of other food available. (We were in foodie capital San Francisco!) He has no allergies. They just wouldn't offer anything else.

    By contrast, LO has been eating table food since 11mos or so. We always offer her whatever we are having unless it's too spicy for her. It is so much fun watching her discover new tastes and textures. I can't imagine limiting her palate.

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  • I'm sorry but why are we accepting anecdotal evidence in a food thread while lambasting the use of anecdotal evidence in a vaccine thread? We'd shiit ourselves stupid if anyone mentioned their skanky ghetto hot mess cousin on welfare in a food stamp thread.


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    Agreed, cookie, especially since when I go out to eat, I order up some not so healthy but oh so tasty options cooked in a pretty damned unhealthy manner and served up with some butter and cheese laden side dishes sprinkled with bacon.

    If I'm gonna have cheese fries, steak slathered in cream sauce, loaded mashed, and a sweet ass margarita then who am I to tell the kids they have to eat grilled chicken (slathered in fake butter usually) and broccoli?

    I'm really not sure why we're making assumptions about how people feed their kids based on a night out at a restaurant.

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  • imagehindsight's_a_biotch:

    Agreed, cookie, especially since when I go out to eat, I order up some not so healthy but oh so tasty options cooked in a pretty damned unhealthy manner and served up with some butter and cheese laden side dishes sprinkled with bacon.

    If I'm gonna have cheese fries, steak slathered in cream sauce, loaded mashed, and a sweet ass margarita then who am I to tell the kids they have to eat grilled chicken (slathered in fake butter usually) and broccoli?

    I'm really not sure why we're making assumptions about how people feed their kids based on a night out at a restaurant.

    I just want my kids to be able to have the steak and cheese fries, w/out having to share my own!  That's abuse to keep that from them and make them have lame chicken nuggets... ;)  I actually do let Jackson order whatever he wants, but I choose for Scarlett b/c she is a hog and always tries to steal my food.  I don't like sharing sometimes.

    That said, I do think kids menus have gotten better (not healthier, just more variety) - or at least I've noticed more variety at the chain places we generally go to if we have them with us.

    PS - does anyone ever eat at Moe's?  Sort of like Qdoba, Chipotle?  Anyway, it's our favorite for a quick meal and they're big on grass fed beef, cage free chicken, organic, etc.  The price is decent, too.  

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  • I've read only about four posts from the end because I wanted to know where this thread landed, and now I am dying for some cheesy fries.

    I still have no clue what this thread is about and probably never will because I'm going to go stuff my face and will probably lapse into a food coma for days.

    Thanks a lot.

  • I'd like Moe's a lot more if they stopped singing at me and everyone else who walks in the door.


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  • imagehindsight's_a_biotch:
    I'd like Moe's a lot more if they stopped singing at me and everyone else who walks in the door.

    WELCOME TO MOE'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I always find myself saying that for days after we eat there.

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  • imagehindsight's_a_biotch:
    I'm sorry but why are we accepting anecdotal evidence in a food thread while lambasting the use of anecdotal evidence in a vaccine thread? We'd shiit ourselves stupid if anyone mentioned their skanky ghetto hot mess cousin on welfare in a food stamp thread.

    It's funny that you should mention this, because my cousin just got "let go" and filed for unemployment and now my "family" feed on FB is completely over run with her fwcking farmville updates.  I really want to complain about this, but it violates both my personal position on unemployment and the general tenner of this board.  But seriously, get a job, Cuz.   

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    I've read only about four posts from the end because I wanted to know where this thread landed, and now I am dying for some cheesy fries.

    I still have no clue what this thread is about and probably never will because I'm going to go stuff my face and will probably lapse into a food coma for days.

    Thanks a lot.

    I got cheese fries for dinner the other night b/c I was feeling sorry for myself (can't remember why now).  MH made fun of me, but I told him to f*ck off and leave my cheese fries alone b/c he kept trying to steal some. 

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  • I didn't read the responses, but BoneFish has some good options. DD ate Tilapia (grilled) with a side of broccoli last night. They also have grilled chicken and other veggie options on the kids menu. They have the traditional crap kids food, too, but the tilapia was nice.
  • If older DD (4) prefers something on the adult menu (she usually does), we just order it and bring leftovers home.  I always figured the whole point to kids menu's were the other choices, since the adult options are already there.  We do almost every meal we go to "family style", anyway (all of us share everything we order).

    Younger DD (2), we bring along some steamed veggies, rice, etc. in a tupperware with us, and then she also splits what she wants off ours and her sister's.  We'll probably be able to phase that out soon, she's getting to where she eats anything we do.


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  • imagehindsight's_a_biotch:
    I'm sorry but why are we accepting anecdotal evidence in a food thread while lambasting the use of anecdotal evidence in a vaccine thread? We'd shiit ourselves stupid if anyone mentioned their skanky ghetto hot mess cousin on welfare in a food stamp thread.

    I'm so sorry for the error of my ways. Why don't you go ahead and provide me with some links to scientific studies on kids' menus then, mmmkay?

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    Kids menus are that way because there are alot of parents that think that's all their kids will eat. Meaning that is all they feed them. No joke I have a cousin that brings frozen chicken nuggets to every dinner we have. Thanksgiving, Christmas, even outings. We went out to dinner for my grandmother's birthday and instead of ordering her kids food she brought chicken nuggets and golfish crackers.

    I am not even sure why I am defending the kids menu because I don't frequently make use of it.  But here goes...while I think there is something to criticize bringing nuggets to Thanksgiving, I don't think bringing or ordering something you know your kid will eat is such a bad thing at a public place.  If that happens to be a nugget then so be it.  I just don't think restaurants are the place to have food battles.  I will only order something that I know my now picky eater (formerly ate everything in sight) will eat without encouragement.  It doesn't mean that is all that I feed him at home if he decides to have a bread and butter fest.  But I am not going to do the whole "you must have five bites of XYZ" before milk at a restaurant.  Sometimes at home it is easy and sometimes it can start WWIII with a picky eater.  I choose not to risk WWIII in the restaurant.  

    Not only that, but you ARE paying more at a restaurant, for any meal, than you are for food at home. Not going to eat your grilled chicken and veggies at home? Whatever. Toss it or save it for leftovers. Not going to eat it at a restaurant? Great, that was $12, kid. Not to mention, like I said previously, eating out is a treat. As a kid we went out for meals 1-2 times per month.

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    I was reading this thread and getting ready to post about how I too hate most restaurant kids' menus for perpetuating the myth that all kids like to eat junk and should eat junk...but now I just want a grilled cheese.

    My favorite brunch place offers grilled PB&Js on the brunch kiddie menu. I'm dying to give that a whirl at home.

    It's super good.  I may or may not have a panini press.  Also good is peanut butter and chocolate.

    THIS sounds like a nutella thread waiting to happen... I had paninis last night, but no PB. Crying

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  • We sub fries for veggies a lot. Sometimes we order from the adult menu for him. 
  • We don't eat out often enough for it to matter. My 4 year old usually opts for a cheeseburger and fries with a small sprite and my almost 3 year old gets nuggets with fries and whatever drink suits her fancy ATM. It's not gng to kill them or hurt their eating habits to learn its ok to splurge occasionally.

     

    And a grilled cheese restaurant would be incredible. Open one now please :) 

  • imageKnitty:

    Both of mine were eating broccolli and hummus at 18 months, and plain pasta with grated cheese at 2.

    Is there a point here ?  

  • I'm surprised at the # of people whose daycares provide food. Ours does not and I prefer it that way as I get to be the one to decide what she's going to eat for now.

    It's kind of annoying on occasion to have to take care of all the food, esp when I'm running late in the am but I'm ok with it.

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  • imageMisfitMe:
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    Both of mine were eating broccolli and hummus at 18 months, and plain pasta with grated cheese at 2.

    Is there a point here ?  

    That almost sounds like a "You'll see! Your good eater now will be a picky eater in no time! You just wait!" 

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  • Haha. Well that's true. It could also be like, your hummus child will be trying to buy  my child's fruit roll up. Being super stingent on anything in parenting world isn't generally a good idea. 

     

    Also, my husband eats plain pasta with grated cheese. It's gross. 

  • imagelarrysdarling:
    imageMisfitMe:
    imageKnitty:

    Both of mine were eating broccolli and hummus at 18 months, and plain pasta with grated cheese at 2.

    Is there a point here ?  

    That almost sounds like a "You'll see! Your good eater now will be a picky eater in no time! You just wait!" 

    all i know is at 2 we couldn't pay grace to eat a fry or a chicken nugget.  she told the doctor that she wished all the food in the world was broccoli.  now that she's 6, if we say the word VEGETABLE to her it's insta-tantrum. 

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  • We eat very well at home and don't eat out often at all, so I don't worry. That said, I rarely order off the kids menu for the kids because they're not huge fans of the offerings. Julia won't touch ground beef/turkey/chicken for anything (which is a major PITA for my meal planning) and prefers my mac n cheese to kraft. They'll eat nuggets but aren't huge fans so it's not what they would  pick. They do love fries though! Their favorite night out is sushi, they both love california rolls. Julia used to love Indian food but has gotten picker  and won't eat anything with sauce on it at all (aside from pasta with tomato sauce, although she wouldn't even eat that for a year). Usually they'll share an adult meal and finish it (they both seem to have hollow legs and eat a lot).

    Since we only eat at restaurants once or twice a month if that I don't worry about it.

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