Jobs are open but no one wants t hem

Blue Ivy Carter · March 2012

You know what my daddy says? ?I sell ice in the winter, I sell fire in hell, I am a hustler baby, I?ll sell water to a well. ?

MisfitMe · March 2012

Normally that mentality makes sense, but with all the unemployment lately it's just stupidity.

Sibil · March 2012

MisfitMe:
Normally that mentality makes sense, but with all the unemployment lately it's just stupidity.

Which part makes sense and which is stupidity?

chi, I did have a job out of college paying under 30k. It worked b/c I had a savings account and no loans. Someone moving for what you're offering very well could be in deep debt before they even begin, with student loan debt, first/last month + security deposit, all other moving costs. Everytime we move we get at least $500 for incidentals, and we're not even paying moving companies. We even get temporary housing paid while we house hunt. Even with that, $500 doesn't often cover the cost of setting up a new place.

What kind of start is that? And you're using an employment gap as threat that you wouldn't hire them in the future? Someone deciding that it costs more money to take your job than they make doesn't sound too stupid to hire.

RedheadBaker · March 2012

ChiChimi:
tartaruga:
Do you have any idea how expensive it is to move? It's a big investment, between the actual moving expenses, a deposit and first month's rent on a new place, etc. I wouldn't advise my kid to move just to have any job - it doesn't make financial sense, especially if the job doesn't pay enough for you to be able to recoup those expenses (and $28k is not very much money).

I do know how expensive it is to move and I understand that people want to make more money. We all do. I thought I would be making much more than what I even do now but what I am saying still sticks. There are people who are willing to move and willing to work hard and there are those who arent willing to take those opportunities. Sometimes a better job may come their way and its a good thing but I dont think thats the majority experience with the economy the way it is and as someone who is hiring, I am not interested in someone with large gaps in their employment and Im only hiring for entry level. They should have been in school or working somewhere and if they have not, Im going to doubt work ethic.

I'm unemployed. I can't just up and move. As tartaruga said, it's expensive coming up with first, last and security on a new place, plus the cost of moving itself, plus penalties if I break my lease.

And what if I was married? My H would have to find a new job, too. No sense in us moving so that I could get a job, only to have him end up unemployed in the new city.

lyssbobiss · March 2012

doctorwho:
ChiChimi:
I dont think the pay has to be 50k in order for it to be a good job. I have hired for a couple entry level positions that pay just shy of 30k but include full paid benefits, 5% retirement contribution that does not require a match, 5-6 weeks paid leave, and a company car. Its an easy job and I think its pretty cushy but the kids I have hired right out of college have not been cut out for work at all. I dont know where they will survive because it doesnt get much better for those with no experience. Considering the COL, I feel like I should be able to demand a decent level of work and its hard to find. My main hardship in hiring has been people not wanting to move and difficulty in properly advertising the positions.
Wait, what? Where are you? What industry? Talk to me about this 6 weeks and company car.

Yeah, this is me too. I mean, I'm no kid straight out of college but um...will work for decent salary and company car.

MisfitMe · March 2012

Sibil:
MisfitMe:
Normally that mentality makes sense, but with all the unemployment lately it's just stupidity.
Which part makes sense and which is stupidity?
chi, I did have a job out of college paying under 30k. It worked b/c I had a savings account and no loans. Someone moving for what you're offering very well could be in deep debt before they even begin, with student loan debt, first/last month + security deposit, all other moving costs. Everytime we move we get at least $500 for incidentals, and we're not even paying moving companies. We even get temporary housing paid while we house hunt. Even with that, $500 doesn't often cover the cost of setting up a new place.
What kind of start is that? And you're using an employment gap as threat that you wouldn't hire them in the future? Someone deciding that it costs more money to take your job than they make doesn't sound too stupid to hire.

Sorry, the part that used to make sense was doubting someones work ethic if they had gaps in their employment, except then the bottom dropped out and half the freaking country was unemployed.( exaggeration) so now to discount a prospective employee because they have gaps, to me, is stupidity.

And 30k a year is just beans, at least in the 3 states I've lived in so far. I would spend 2/3s of that on rent alone.

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