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Did you discuss why this wasn't a nationwide uproaring event?

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Re: Did you discuss why this wasn't a nationwide uproaring event?

  • imagecookiemdough:

    I didn't expect the "support" for lack of a better word for promoting discussion and coverage of one over the other.

    Why not?  You framed the discussion as a comparison between the coverage.  If you wanted to discuss it independently, why didn't you just post the article for discussion?  

    Yeah, this. That's the exact title of your post. 
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  • imageRenoisPrettierThanYou:
    I see the hate itself as the systematic evil....the mediums may change, but the hateful sentiment is at the heart of the evil whenever the circumstances demonstrate race was at the heart of the conduct.  But, whatever, if you all don't think it's worthy, bully for you.  I was just asking but, unfortunatley, many of you proved my friend's point.

    you are ridiculous.  if you want a different discussion then change your post title. 

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  • imagecookiemdough:

    I didn't expect the "support" for lack of a better word for promoting discussion and coverage of one over the other.

    Why not?  You framed the discussion as a comparison between the coverage.  If you wanted to discuss it independently, why didn't you just post the article for discussion?  

     

    I actually did....

  • imageRenoisPrettierThanYou:
    I see the hate itself as the systematic evil....the mediums may change, but the hateful sentiment is at the heart of the evil whenever the circumstances demonstrate race was at the heart of the conduct.  But, whatever, if you all don't think it's worthy, bully for you.  I was just asking but, unfortunatley, many of you proved my friend's point.

    I think you're being obtuse and so is everyone else who can't discuss this without falling back on the but other people are racist too talking point.



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  • imageRenoisPrettierThanYou:
    I see the hate itself as the systematic evil....the mediums may change, but the hateful sentiment is at the heart of the evil whenever the circumstances demonstrate race was at the heart of the conduct.  But, whatever, if you all don't think it's worthy, bully for you.  I was just asking but, unfortunatley, many of you proved my friend's point.

    See.....nevermind. *leaves post, doesn't look back*

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  • imageRenoisPrettierThanYou:
    I see the hate itself as the systematic evil....the mediums may change, but the hateful sentiment is at the heart of the evil whenever the circumstances demonstrate race was at the heart of the conduct.  But, whatever, if you all don't think it's worthy, bully for you.  I was just asking but, unfortunatley, many of you proved my friend's point.

    Who said it wasn't worthy?

    The facts of both of these cases are fundamentally different, for different reasons.

    And, in saying so, one is being discussed more than the other.

    It's not a case of whether one is more "worthy" of discussion.

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  • imageRenoisPrettierThanYou:
    I see the hate itself as the systematic evil....the mediums may change, but the hateful sentiment is at the heart of the evil whenever the circumstances demonstrate race was at the heart of the conduct.  But, whatever, if you all don't think it's worthy, bully for you.  I was just asking but, unfortunatley, many of you proved my friend's point.

    I provided you one example of alleged black against white racial crime in my edit above that had gotten some national traction. 

    If you want crime against a white person that gained national traction, there's the Matthew Shepard case. Not only did it gain national traction, but it spurred several laws into being. Although that was white against white crime, so it might not fit your argument as well.

    A big old middle finger to you, stupid Nest.
  • imageRenoisPrettierThanYou:
    imagecookiemdough:

    I didn't expect the "support" for lack of a better word for promoting discussion and coverage of one over the other.

    Why not?  You framed the discussion as a comparison between the coverage.  If you wanted to discuss it independently, why didn't you just post the article for discussion?  

     

    I actually did....

    Look at the title of your post...nevermind I can't deal with this kind of ignorance today. 

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  • imageRenoisPrettierThanYou:
    I had asked because a very rightwinged friend of mine shared the story and I was of the mind that both this and Zimmerman's actions appear to be tragic tales of hate.  I didn't expect the "support" for lack of a better word for promoting discussion and coverage of one over the other. 

    You really don't understand why the story a boy who got first-degree burns (which is what a sunburn is, by the way) and didn't even spend the night in the hospital after an assault/bullying incident that may or may not have had a racial component isn't getting the same national news coverage as a boy who was shot dead for "looking suspicious"?

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  • Clearly we must discuss all hate crimes that happen every day.
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  • imagepixy_stix:

    For two, there hasn't been centuries of systematic racial hatred against whites

    Y'all hate the Irish so much you won't even acknowledge their suffering, dammit!!!

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  • If I ever get set on fire, I don't need WET (my people have CMT and that's good enough) but dammit people, I expect a skittles parade.  I'm saying.
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  • This board hates white people.  They smell funny, and also they are the main carriers of freckles, which cause skin cancer.  When we hear about a white kid with a first degree burn, the whole board facebook page explodes with glee.  At 2 EST/11 Pacific, we will all set our itunes to play Gansta's Paradise as a reminder that we are one step closer to non-white domination.

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  • why do you guys hate white people?
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  • Did those kids get arrested for it?  There you go.

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  • imageRenoisPrettierThanYou:
    I see the hate itself as the systematic evil....the mediums may change, but the hateful sentiment is at the heart of the evil whenever the circumstances demonstrate race was at the heart of the conduct.  But, whatever, if you all don't think it's worthy, bully for you.  I was just asking but, unfortunatley, many of you proved my friend's point.

    Lawd Baby Jesus. 

    Where's the follow up? Were the kids who set the kid on fire arrested? I'm going to go with Yes Black Kids Were Locked the F Up for $300 alex. 

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  • One time a black kid in my neighborhood called me snowflake and threw a balled up newspaper in my direction on the subway platform. I gave him the wtf face and threw the paper in the trash. WHERE IS MY PEOPLE COVER?

    Seriously get a grip woman. Lots of criminal incidents way more serious than this one get no media coverage at all. Hell when there is a murder in my neighborhood I follow blogs for updates. But Casey Anthony was a goddam media circus. Do you really not understand why some incidents capture the public interest where others do not? 

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  • imagenitaw:

    Lawd Baby Jesus. 

    Where's the follow up? Were the kids who set the kid on fire arrested? I'm going to go with Yes Black Kids Were Locked the F Up for $300 alex. 

    And given longer sentences on average than white counterparts who commit similar crimes. And then denies paroled more often than their white counterparts and/or less likely to be hired after leaving jail than their white counterparts for $2 million, Alex.



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  • imagehindsight's_a_biotch:
    imagenitaw:

    Lawd Baby Jesus. 

    Where's the follow up? Were the kids who set the kid on fire arrested? I'm going to go with Yes Black Kids Were Locked the F Up for $300 alex. 

    And given longer sentences on average than white counterparts who commit similar crimes. And then denies paroled more often than their white counterparts and/or less likely to be hired after leaving jail than their white counterparts for $2 million, Alex.

    Not only that, but black men without a criminal record are less likely to get a call back to a job than white men with a criminal record according to one study.

    To the OP - if you really want this to receive the same kind of attention as the Trayvon Martin case, then we better start a national debate on whether or not he deserved to have this happen to him. I'm not comfortable calling him the victim at this point until I know what kind of student he was and what he was wearing.

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  • imageMrsFeatherbottom:

    To the OP - if you really want this to receive the same kind of attention as the Trayvon Martin case, then we better start a national debate on whether or not he deserved to have this happen to him. I'm not comfortable calling him the victim at this point until I know what kind of student he was and what he was wearing.

    Yep. Have they dug into the white victim's past yet to make sure he was up to no good and somehow deserved being burned based on past misbehavior?

  • The difference is very very simple. George Zimmerman was in police custody and admitted to pulling the trigger of the gun he had in his possesion after he had told police on his telephone that he was following the victim. He is not under arrest for murder in any degree or even manslaughter. If these kids were there when the police came and said they did it and had the means (matches, gas etc.) they would have been arrested immediately. If they had not been there should and would be outrage. This isn't that complicated is it? 

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