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Mad Men (with spoilers)
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Yes, in Dons office, after he met Roger.
Thanks for this. I seem to remember another time, after they were married.
This episode was named "Mystery Date" but I think it should have been named "Nightmares". Everyone's nightmares seemed to come to the fore in this episode.
Sally, straining against the strictures of childhood learns that some of the things that adults are protecting her from are truly frightening.
Meghan came face to face with Don's infidelitous past and found it distasteful and too close for comfort.
Don, trying desperately to change his ways, found his demons lurking just below the surface. Like under the bed...
Roger realized that he was now going to have to prove his worth, panicked in the face of his neglect.
Peggy realized that while she has come so far, still harbors some ugly prejudices.
Joan, after spending months convincing herself that she could live the life chosen for her by society, realized that there were worse things than being alone.
Wow, now we're getting some drama. Some thoughts:
- I hope we're not at the beginning of a relationship between Sally Draper and drugs.
- Loved the wittiness between Peggy and Roger! They're a funny pair.
- Anyone think there's something shifty about Ginsberg? I don't know what it is, but there's something interesting there.
- Don's dead mistress had one shoe, just like the Cinderella-type ad that Ginsberg was selling...
- Speaking of the mistress, have we seen her before?
- I wonder if this means that Don is actually going to be faithful to Megan. I'm still torn on Megan...part of me likes her, but I think she's got a lot of mysteries of her own.
So nicely stated!
The mistress was in a previous episode. No idea when or how.
Or maybe I just recognize the actress
I thought the theme was more violence against women - we had Dr. Rapist, the nurse murders, the creepy cinderella story Ginsberg threw out, Peggy being creeped out in the office thinking there is an intruder, Don strangling his former mistress (I realize that is a metaphor but still).
- Totally agree something is up with Ginsberg - more than he is just a weird dude. He was very disturbed about the nurse murders (rightfully so, but still - more than anyone else).
- Glad to see the reapparance of Peggy's lesbian friend. I forget her name though.
- Glad to see the disappearance of Dr. Rapist.
- Loved the banter between Peggy and Roger. I do hope taking on this extra work doesn't bite Peggy in the a$$.
- Peggy and the purse scene - ok, I admit to putting my purse away when other people are in our house. This includes family. I get where they were going with this but still. I don't think it is out of line to put personal belongings away when strangers are staying in your house - even if they are co-workers.
- Ok - I'm slightly confused about Don. I know he was hallucinating but...the mistress said something about the first time they had sex and I was wondering...did Don cheat on Megan? I may have heard or understood that wrong.
ETA - I predict a Lane/Joan hookup.
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I believe she is someone he slept with while married to Betty. I think that Don has wanted desperately to be a different person in his marriage to Meghan. He has been honest about his identity, his drinking and his previous affairs. I imagine that he feels that the secrets he kept from Betty were part of the problem in the marriage. He is hoping to bust the pattern and get a different result this time.
Was she in an episode? I totally don't remember her.
I don't know...I have a feeling she is a more recent development. And if so, oh Don, really?
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I thought the same thing- especially after she confided in him the last two episodes. It kinda makes me go eeww though. I don't find Lane attractive- he feels old.
I was wondering about Andrea, too. I don't remember seeing her in any previous episodes, but I do feel like it was meant to be a person he hooked up with when he was with Betty.
I'm definitely curious to see what becomes of Sally (and Betty's MIL). That's the same drug that killed Judy Garland & Jimmie Hendrix. I really love Sally. She is such a great actress, and I just really like her part in the show. I do see some drugs in her future...
Right. And that's sort of why I think it may happen with Lane. I don't think it will be anything either of them will set out to do, but it will happen by accident.
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That was some weird Don sh!t. I don't know whether that was simply a metaphor or foreshadowing something more sinister in him.
Love that Joan grew a backbone and kicked Dr. Rapist out. A Lane/Joan hookup seems icky to me. Lane doesn't seem like her kind of man despite their office rapport.
The Peggy scenes totally won the episode. Her struggle to be a woman in a man's industry ("Do I act like a man? I don't know if I want to...") will never get old. I want to see more of Dawn and figure out her role in all this.
My sentiment exactly. Buh bye, it isn't even your baby!
Also re: Meghan, I'm not sure how closely Weiner wants to play it to the "real" Don Draper, but I know with his second marriage, he stayed faithful to his wife (according to stuff she's written, anyway). His wife also worked at his company, but she had a better position than Meghan. She was older than Meghan, but still something like 12 years younger than Don/Draper Daniels.
And ITA that the Peggy;/Roger scene was definitely one of the best, and I also loved her scene with Dawn. Lots of great Peggy this episode!
I saw the strangulation of the "woman in yellow" as more of a sign of what Don was willing to do to fight his demons. At that moment, he saw her as the thing that could bring his new world (and new heroic identity) crumbling down, and he was willing to do ANYTHING to make sure his new life stayed that way.
Wait, what? Weiner is basing this off a real person and true story? I haven't heard this! Please tell me more--who is the "real" Don Draper?
Season 2, and the episode was "The Mountain King."
She should have thrown him out that window there and then --- but I guess she figured marrying somebody is better than a broken engagement.
Andrea was never Don't mistress.
The term mistress got "redefined", and incorrectly, ever since that Tiger Woods thing (which I thought was fake but that's another story.)
A mistress by definition is a kept woman. Somebody a guy pays for full ride--- puts her up in an apartment and pays for her full upkeep --- and in return, she's his sexually and his alone.
Andrea was a dalliance and maybe part of his stable --- there was Midge, and Rachel and a slew of others --- but by no definition of the word was she his mistress. That would be too stuffy and too tied down for Don.
Yep, he's (at least partially) based on an ad man named Draper Daniels who worked at Leo Burnett. I'm sure you can find a lot of info googling, but I read this article a couple years ago, which is why I remember the part about his wife working at the same firm.
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2009/I-Married-a-Mad-Man/
Wow! I did not know this.
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I'd much rather see this as a friendship or even have Lane play a more fatherly role towards her. There aren't enough real friendships in this show. Too much sleeping together or general cattyness.
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Did anyone else notice that Andrea is Shelley from Twin Peaks?
Judging from his reaction to the nurse murders and his comment about accents, I think Ginsburg is going to have a Holocaust connection (either he, himself is a survivor, or his father is).
I liked the episode. Yes, it was dark, but it was great to see more into Peggy's role in the company and as a woman, and holy cow, does anyone else think they're setting Sally up to either become a drug addict or a serial killer?
Also....I adore Joan Holloway. Good for her.
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I love Joanie!!! When she was telling Dr. Rapist that it was over and he grabbed her wrist, she took a calm breath in and it was like I could hear her heels digging in.
"And you know what I'm talking about." Love.
And he probably does not know what she is talking about at all.
She did everything for that guy --- and he never took her advice, when she coached him that time for the interview for the psych residency.
And he probably does not know what she is talking about at all.
She did everything for that guy --- and he never took her advice, when she coached him that time for the interview for the psych residency.