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  • I'm superstitious. Completely. I am going to work from home today whether my boss approves or not (he never gave me a final word yesterday, and I don't want to drive into work), because I'm terrified of driving. Aside from my trip to Costco to get gas under $4.

    It's just me and my Marlon now... and I LOVE it that way!
  • imageReturnOfKuus:
    imagekellbell1919:

    Since I'm not responding to nyg&p's comment directly hopefully I'm not violating the rules of flame free but I was surprised people were so supportive of her pregnancy.  I have no doubt that she is genuinely excited and will be a good Mom, but to me it sounded like she is only feeding her codependency issues by having a baby on her own rather than figuring out why she is so codependent and working through it.  That sh*t can be hugely damaging to a child.

     

    I agree wholeheartedly with this, except being sure she will be a good mom.  

    I was supportive of the pregnancy b/c she said she had decided to keep the baby and do it on her own. At that point all I can say is good luck and all baby's are a blessing. There is no point in scolding her about having a baby cause she is codependent.... what's done is done.

    Therapy has been mentioned to her often and I didn't have the energy at the time to repeat again and again.

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  • imageachase123:
    imageturtle1120:

    Hehehe....I have full physical and legal custody too...and I too asked my lawyer the "hypothetical" question.  The hypothetical answer was that Ex couldn't stop me.  I think southern Cali is calling your name!

    Could be, could be!  I just sent you a pm :)

    PS - I fully plan on looking moving in about 4 years. I want to find a job in a warmer climate and get away from my X. May parents want to move too, we have always wanted to live somewhere closer to water and in a warmer climate... having more miles between me and my X (when he is released) is a big, big BONUS!

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  • imagebeccaga16:
    imageachase123:
    imageturtle1120:

    Hehehe....I have full physical and legal custody too...and I too asked my lawyer the "hypothetical" question.  The hypothetical answer was that Ex couldn't stop me.  I think southern Cali is calling your name!

    Could be, could be!  I just sent you a pm :)

    PS - I fully plan on looking moving in about 4 years. I want to find a job in a warmer climate and get away from my X. May parents want to move too, we have always wanted to live somewhere closer to water and in a warmer climate... having more miles between me and my X (when he is released) is a big, big BONUS!

    Well I can totally understand, especially if your parents would move.  My mom got so upset at the idea of me moving ever, but I told her she could come too!  I just feel like, with exes like ours, it's such a scary thing.  I'm not into parental alienation but we all know these men are not normal.

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  • My 30th is next Friday and unless I take one of my BFF's offer up to come over from OH my plans are 1) go out to eat with the folks while someone watches DD or 2) sushi and a little wine at home by myself. Weirdly enough the latter sounds less sad.

    SO not ready for the 30's right now! 

  • imageachase123:
    imagebeccaga16:
    imageachase123:
    imageturtle1120:

    Hehehe....I have full physical and legal custody too...and I too asked my lawyer the "hypothetical" question.  The hypothetical answer was that Ex couldn't stop me.  I think southern Cali is calling your name!

    Could be, could be!  I just sent you a pm :)

    PS - I fully plan on looking moving in about 4 years. I want to find a job in a warmer climate and get away from my X. May parents want to move too, we have always wanted to live somewhere closer to water and in a warmer climate... having more miles between me and my X (when he is released) is a big, big BONUS!

    Well I can totally understand, especially if your parents would move.  My mom got so upset at the idea of me moving ever, but I told her she could come too!  I just feel like, with exes like ours, it's such a scary thing.  I'm not into parental alienation but we all know these men are not normal.

    I know my X. HE is very smart and can fool a lot of people, I was one of them for a while. When he gets out he will do whatever he can to get visitation... I don't like to say I am running away, but kinda. I have ALWAYS wanted to be near the ocean though. Even if it is just close enough for a weekend trip!
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  • imageachase123:
    imagebeccaga16:
    imageachase123:
    imageturtle1120:

    Hehehe....I have full physical and legal custody too...and I too asked my lawyer the "hypothetical" question.  The hypothetical answer was that Ex couldn't stop me.  I think southern Cali is calling your name!

    Could be, could be!  I just sent you a pm :)

    PS - I fully plan on looking moving in about 4 years. I want to find a job in a warmer climate and get away from my X. May parents want to move too, we have always wanted to live somewhere closer to water and in a warmer climate... having more miles between me and my X (when he is released) is a big, big BONUS!

    Well I can totally understand, especially if your parents would move.  My mom got so upset at the idea of me moving ever, but I told her she could come too!  I just feel like, with exes like ours, it's such a scary thing.  I'm not into parental alienation but we all know these men are not normal.

    Just chiming in with my experience in moving away from the X... We had joint custody and I was planning to take him to court to allow me to move.  He said there was no way he was going to let me.  But once the court date drew near he just let me.  And he was a very involved dad too ... had my son 50% of the time.  And he just let us move 1,000 miles away without much of a fight at all. 

  • imagebeccaga16:
    imageReturnOfKuus:
    imagekellbell1919:

    Since I'm not responding to nyg&p's comment directly hopefully I'm not violating the rules of flame free but I was surprised people were so supportive of her pregnancy.  I have no doubt that she is genuinely excited and will be a good Mom, but to me it sounded like she is only feeding her codependency issues by having a baby on her own rather than figuring out why she is so codependent and working through it.  That sh*t can be hugely damaging to a child.

     

    I agree wholeheartedly with this, except being sure she will be a good mom.  

    I was supportive of the pregnancy b/c she said she had decided to keep the baby and do it on her own. At that point all I can say is good luck and all baby's are a blessing. There is no point in scolding her about having a baby cause she is codependent.... what's done is done.

    Therapy has been mentioned to her often and I didn't have the energy at the time to repeat again and again.

    Yes, I'm not saying scold her or don't support her decision to keep it, but I was surprised that nobody has pointed out so far that she's substituting one codependency for another.

    NY: I think you have nothing but good intentions for the baby but my concern for you is not that you will repeat your parents mistakes.  I am sorry your parents sucked, nobody deserves to grow up feeling unwanted.  But when you need the validation of someone else in your life so that you can feel worthy and wanted its easy to do a complete 180 and wind up raising your kid in a way where they're smothered and know that you rely on them for emotional support.  That's not healthy either.  It does your kid no good if you're bouncing between men looking for validation or if you rely completely on your child for emotional support and validation.

    image "...Saving just one pet won't change the world...but, surely, the world will change for that one pet..."
  • image+Black Kitty+:

    Just chiming in with my experience in moving away from the X... We had joint custody and I was planning to take him to court to allow me to move.  He said there was no way he was going to let me.  But once the court date drew near he just let me.  And he was a very involved dad too ... had my son 50% of the time.  And he just let us move 1,000 miles away without much of a fight at all. 

    Interesting.  So what does his visitation look like now, or after you moved?  How involved is he now?

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  • I've had a bad week and my patience for this latest codependent has run out.  I'll just ditto whatever kellbell wrote.

    This is my siggy.
  • imageachase123:
    image+Black Kitty+:

    Just chiming in with my experience in moving away from the X... We had joint custody and I was planning to take him to court to allow me to move.  He said there was no way he was going to let me.  But once the court date drew near he just let me.  And he was a very involved dad too ... had my son 50% of the time.  And he just let us move 1,000 miles away without much of a fight at all. 

    Interesting.  So what does his visitation look like now, or after you moved?  How involved is he now?

    They talk and skype probably 3-4 times a week.  He came down to visit for like 4 days in Dec (we moved in Sep) and my son went up for spring break.  My son is going to spend the summer up there.  It's always my idea and I have to push him to arrange the visits though.  I encouraged him to visit for the two weeks of Christmas (there or here) and he declined.  He tried to back out of spring break too because he didn't try to buy the ticket until the last minute but I made him follow through because my son was already looking forward to it.  He was always a decent dad, but he's not the kind of guy that ever really "makes anything happen".

  • imagebeccaga16:
    imageReturnOfKuus:
    imagekellbell1919:

    Since I'm not responding to nyg&p's comment directly hopefully I'm not violating the rules of flame free but I was surprised people were so supportive of her pregnancy.  I have no doubt that she is genuinely excited and will be a good Mom, but to me it sounded like she is only feeding her codependency issues by having a baby on her own rather than figuring out why she is so codependent and working through it.  That sh*t can be hugely damaging to a child.

     

    I agree wholeheartedly with this, except being sure she will be a good mom.  

    I was supportive of the pregnancy b/c she said she had decided to keep the baby and do it on her own. At that point all I can say is good luck and all baby's are a blessing. There is no point in scolding her about having a baby cause she is codependent.... what's done is done.

    Therapy has been mentioned to her often and I didn't have the energy at the time to repeat again and again.

     

    I think therapy will be great, but better will be making changes on the outside.  All the therapy in the world won't make you feel good about yourself when you're a f*ckup, because you know damn well there's nothing here for you to feel good about.  But if you devote your life to actually being the kind of person you can be proud of, then feeling good about yourself will follow. 

     

    At this point nyg&p thinks of herself the way we all think of her, as that mess who was some married man's side piece and then had unprotected sex with some random dude and got knocked up.  And she's not wrong.  But each good thing she does, every time she volunteers for a cause she cares about, or learns a new skill, or takes up some sort of new interest, that will become a part of her identity, and the longer she goes without doing something stupid, the smaller a part of her identity her bad decisions will be.  After a while she'd be the woman who learned from her bad decisions and became this interesting person with all this life experience, and hell, who wouldn't be proud of that?

     

    As an aside, not all babies are a blessing.  

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  • imageachase123:
    imagebeccaga16:
    imageachase123:
    imageturtle1120:

    Hehehe....I have full physical and legal custody too...and I too asked my lawyer the "hypothetical" question.  The hypothetical answer was that Ex couldn't stop me.  I think southern Cali is calling your name!

    Could be, could be!  I just sent you a pm :)

    PS - I fully plan on looking moving in about 4 years. I want to find a job in a warmer climate and get away from my X. May parents want to move too, we have always wanted to live somewhere closer to water and in a warmer climate... having more miles between me and my X (when he is released) is a big, big BONUS!

    Well I can totally understand, especially if your parents would move.  My mom got so upset at the idea of me moving ever, but I told her she could come too!  I just feel like, with exes like ours, it's such a scary thing.  I'm not into parental alienation but we all know these men are not normal.

    Yes

    Maybe we can start some kind of a commune in a warm climate where we all go with our kids to get away from our crazy Exes and live happily ever after?

    Who's in???

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  • I don't have a crazy ex (well, I do, but we had no kids and he's long gone) but I'm in! 

    As long as there's a hot poolboy, that is.  

  • imageturtle1120:

    Maybe we can start some kind of a commune in a warm climate where we all go with our kids to get away from our crazy Exes and live happily ever after?

    Who's in???

    Count me in.  I'm sick of the cold, damp climate here.  I need sunshine and warm weather.

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  • imageChasing Emmii:

    I don't have a crazy ex (well, I do, but we had no kids and he's long gone) but I'm in! 

    As long as there's a hot poolboy, that is.  

    Absolutely....hot poolboys and shirtless muscular butlers for everyone!!!!

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