So we have decided that it is time to expand our family

BettyBookworm · April 2012

Muddled:
BettyBookworm:
Muddled:
BettyBookworm:
broccolitree:
Kid. You can't borrow organs or blood from a dog.
LOL! Honestly, dog if you aren't ready to commit to a kid.
Are you saying that a dog is less of a commitment than a kid?
No, just that the dog is easier in my opinion and experience. I even have a special needs dog and the high maintenance factor pales in comparison (if you have to compare the two) . I read that you are going to try to bypass the puppy stage (a little older dog).
You can definitely have a kid, but that is 9 months of commitment (your body and health) plus the next 18+ years of life.
This is just my experience.
So, you think I should get a dog (even if it's special needs) because I am too irresponsible to take care of a kid? Yes?
You are right that 18 years+9 months is a long time, but I thought I could just re-home the thing if I got tired of it. I mean, I know someone that did that with her dog after she had a kid. Couldn't I just do the same with a kid? Especially if I follow the advice of srs and get a dog after I have a kid. If both are too much for me, I'll just choose one to keep and one to give away.

No. I didn't say anything about your responsibility level. Simply that a dog can be left on its own if needed. Its an apples to oranges comparison to me. You could get both for all it matters but if you are looking for less maintenance & more freedom then a dog may be a good idea. I don't have any business telling you if I feel you are fit to procreate. You expressed hesitation about a kid (babysitters etc) so maybe a dog (something you are familiar with) may be a better fit. You asked for opinions and I gave you mine.

Also, I wasn't aware that my kid had to be a certain age for my opinion to matter about this? Muddled can get a dog AND get pregnant (I've done it lol). I think she would be great at both. I was just going off the hesitation apparent in her post. She stated she wanted to do one or the other. She is familiar with dogs and has yet to have a kid. I figure going with what you know would be a good idea.

I have no idea how my simple statement got blown out of proportion, but I guess some folks are thirsting for drama today.

BettyBookworm · April 2012

imoan:
hindsight's_a_biotch:
BettyBookworm:

No, just that the dog is easier in my opinion and experience. I even have a special needs dog and the high maintenance factor pales in comparison (if you have to compare the two) . I read that you are going to try to bypass the puppy stage (a little older dog).

You can definitely have a kid, but that is 9 months of commitment (your body and health) plus the next 18+ years of life.

This is just my experience.

Come back to me when your kid starts school.

For realsies. You have a five month old who is still in the eat, shiit, sleep, gurgle phase.
Yeah the "this is just my experience" talking about 18 years of raising a child when you're only 5 months in kind of made me wide-eyed.

Oh I get it. I am currently in the middle of raising a baby and I've had a puppy/high needs dog (also currently in the middle of that). I am in the middle of an experience that Muddled is asking about (getting a dog or a newborn). In order to be able to have an opinion I have to be further into parenting. Gotcha.

So exactly HOW far into raising my kid do I get to tell you what my experience is like? One year? When they ship off to college? Exactly how long would it take for my opinion to be valid?

I will speak to the dog experience because I have over 10 years of experience with Animals and Rescues. I feel that would most likely qualify me there.

I absolutely think that Muddled could handle a kid. I don't understand how my vote for "get a dog" automatically excludes her from being able to have a kid or that I think she will do poorly with a child.

Whatever works at this point. Have a kid AND get a dog. Do what works for you.

I will make sure that I only offer my parenting experience after the TIP-approved age limit.

Muddled · April 2012

BettyBookworm:
No. I didn't say anything about your responsibility level. Simply that a dog can be left on its own if needed. Its an apples to oranges comparison to me. You could get both for all it matters but if you are looking for less maintenance & more freedom then a dog may be a good idea. I don't have any business telling you if I feel you are fit to procreate. You expressed hesitation about a kid (babysitters etc) so maybe a dog (something you are familiar with) may be a better fit. You asked for opinions and I gave you mine.
Also, I wasn't aware that my kid had to be a certain age for my opinion to matter about this? Muddled can get a dog AND get pregnant (I've done it lol). I think she would be great at both. I was just going off the hesitation apparent in her post. She stated she wanted to do one or the other. She is familiar with dogs and has yet to have a kid. I figure going with what you know would be a good idea.
I have no idea how my simple statement got blown out of proportion, but I guess some folks are thirsting for drama today.

FTR, I did question anyone that offered an opinion one way or another. You were just the only one that took my question so seriously. And I believe the only one that took the dog side.

Thank you for saying that I would be great at both.

malibu5880 · April 2012

Kid! Squee!

BettyBookworm · April 2012

Muddled:
BettyBookworm:
No. I didn't say anything about your responsibility level. Simply that a dog can be left on its own if needed. Its an apples to oranges comparison to me. You could get both for all it matters but if you are looking for less maintenance & more freedom then a dog may be a good idea. I don't have any business telling you if I feel you are fit to procreate. You expressed hesitation about a kid (babysitters etc) so maybe a dog (something you are familiar with) may be a better fit. You asked for opinions and I gave you mine.
Also, I wasn't aware that my kid had to be a certain age for my opinion to matter about this? Muddled can get a dog AND get pregnant (I've done it lol). I think she would be great at both. I was just going off the hesitation apparent in her post. She stated she wanted to do one or the other. She is familiar with dogs and has yet to have a kid. I figure going with what you know would be a good idea.
I have no idea how my simple statement got blown out of proportion, but I guess some folks are thirsting for drama today.
FTR, I did question anyone that offered an opinion one way or another. You were just the only one that took my question so seriously. And I believe the only one that took the dog side.
Thank you for saying that I wold be great at both.

Yeah, I thought you were serious. Embarrassed

Oh well, I guess I'm just need to have another cup of coffee, but I'll make it decaf. lol

But I do think you'd be fine either/or-- but if you do BOTH you get all the cuteness in one place. Wink

Muddled · April 2012

I am semi-serious in that we are having a difficult time with the child decision. No secret there. But, yes, I do recognize that dogs and children are different animals (haha) and I do not need a message board to make up my mind for me. Even I am not that nuts.

I am embarrassed that you quoted my typo. Blech.

smock.smock · April 2012

Muddled:
smock.smock:
Muddled:
smock.smock:
College might not be an issue for dumb dogs, but my little genius is getting her B.A. in Environmental Sciences.
Only a bachelor's, smock? I expected more from you.
She's not even two years old! I'd like to see a kid do that!
2? That's 14 in human years. My kid could totally do that. The next Doogie Howser is somewhere in my ovaries.

I was totally going to make a "Doggie Howser" joke, but I decided to spare all of you. YWIA.

Muddled · April 2012

smock.smock:
I was totally going to make a "Doggie Howser" joke, but I decided to spare all of you. YWIA.

Yeah, I went there.

But hey, I would be darn tootin proud to have either Doogie or NPH as a child.

GBCK · April 2012

imoan:
hindsight's_a_biotch:
BettyBookworm:

No, just that the dog is easier in my opinion and experience. I even have a special needs dog and the high maintenance factor pales in comparison (if you have to compare the two) . I read that you are going to try to bypass the puppy stage (a little older dog).

You can definitely have a kid, but that is 9 months of commitment (your body and health) plus the next 18+ years of life.

This is just my experience.

Come back to me when your kid starts school.

For realsies. You have a five month old who is still in the eat, shiit, sleep, gurgle phase.
Yeah the "this is just my experience" talking about 18 years of raising a child when you're only 5 months in kind of made me wide-eyed.

I"m jumping in late and derailing here, but what's w/ all the "oh, someday you'll understand" Bullhonkey today?

That's the shiit that normally gets people stabby around here (as well it should)

GBCK · April 2012

Muddled:
I am semi-serious in that we are having a difficult time with the child decision. No secret there. But, yes, I do recognize that dogs and children are different animals (haha) and I do not need a message board to make up my mind for me. Even I am not that nuts.
I am embarrassed that you quoted my typo. Blech.

FWIW, when we had trouble TTC, we went out and got my devil cat.

I'm not sure that was a wise move, but we love the evil feline.

GBCK · April 2012

Muddled:
I am semi-serious in that we are having a difficult time with the child decision. No secret there. But, yes, I do recognize that dogs and children are different animals (haha) and I do not need a message board to make up my mind for me. Even I am not that nuts.
I am embarrassed that you quoted my typo. Blech.

FWIW, when we had trouble TTC, we went out and got my devil cat.

I'm not sure that was a wise move, but we love the evil feline.

fussbucket · April 2012

Dammit I am super pissed I missed this post.

Muddled, you know I am on Team Human Spawn. There's always a shot he'll be a savant and learn every street in the city and then he can give your cabbies directions, which will be ADORABLE.

Scenario B is, the dog will be home pissing the bed while your cabbie drives you all over town.

Not even close! Dogs can't even TALK!

Muddled · April 2012

I love you, Fuss.

That is all.

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