Police handcuff Georgia kindergartner for tantrum

tartaruga · April 2012

Her parents sound pretty shtty. But how big could this 6 year old possibly be that she couldn't be physically restrained by grown men trained in law enforcement??

Nerdicornss · April 2012

I totally get why they handcuffed her and I agree with HS- I'd rather police did that than someone locking a 6 year old in a half-nelson.

I just know if my kid wasn't the hot mess in question and was in the class room, I would be fuming if nothing serious was done to restrain the kid. A kid going on a rampage is not just a danger to themself and full grown adults, but also a serious danger to other very vulnerable little kids who rely on adults to protect them from physical harm. I still remember in the 4th grade when a boy in my class was losing his shii!t and then chucked a chair across the classroom and caught a girl in the side of her face- blood everywhere and total pandemonium. Maybe I'm heartless but I'd rather the little sh!thead gets scared stiff by being handcuffed than some innocent nearby kid (or teacher) get hurt because the adults are indecisive because they don't want to use too much force.

loislayn · April 2012

Nerdicornss:

I totally get why they handcuffed her and I agree with HS- I'd rather police did that than someone locking a 6 year old in a half-nelson.

I just know if my kid wasn't the hot mess in question and was in the class room, I would be fuming if nothing serious was done to restrain the kid. A kid going on a rampage is not just a danger to themself and full grown adults, but also a serious danger to other very vulnerable little kids who rely on adults to protect them from physical harm. I still remember in the 4th grade when a boy in my class was losing his shii!t and then chucked a chair across the classroom and caught a girl in the side of her face- blood everywhere and total pandemonium. Maybe I'm heartless but I'd rather the little sh!thead gets scared stiff by being handcuffed than some innocent nearby kid (or teacher) get hurt because the adults are indecisive because they don't want to use too much force.

I agree. The police are the only people in the situation that have the right and respnosibility to train that child (assuming, of course, that there wasn't trained staff on site). They follow their SOP's for deescalating the situation.

Heather R · April 2012

Also, and this is my uo, I don't think sped teachers in general should be even trained in restraint. Most SPED students aRe not EBD but instead have LD or ASD. I don't think the entire profession of sped should be expected to to risk their safety or professional reputation by handling kids. Specialists or people in specialized schools, certainly, but not the entire profession.

grahamsm3 · April 2012

Heather R:
Also, and this is my uo, I don't think sped teachers in general should be even trained in restraint. Most SPED students aRe not EBD but instead have LD or ASD. I don't think the entire profession of sped should be expected to to risk their safety or professional reputation by handling kids. Specialists or people in specialized schools, certainly, but not the entire profession.

I think everyone who works in a school should be trained. Anyone in my school who wants to can be trained in Safety Care. The first 8 hours of the training are learning how to NOT have to put hands on a child.

We have 3 SPED teachers who are SC certified as SC trainers and teach the rest of us, some years there is money to pay people to attend, some years it is unpaid, it is always voluntary to attend.

Also, it's the children with ADS who have been restrained the most. It often calms them to have the deep physical touch for a few seconds. The children with ED are often the ones you want to do anything but touch.

I feel the need to say that when a child is restrained, it's very very rare that a hold lasts more than 3-5 seconds, and we start with the least restrictive hold (e.g. just containing hands that are hitting/throwing), let go, back away. There should not be an image in people's heads that the children are held down for hours.

More info on Safety Care by QBS

http://www.qbscompanies.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=35&Itemid=56

hindsight's_a_biotch · April 2012

It sounds like this kid needed more than 3-5 seconds of having their hands contained.

And for those claiming that a six year old should be easy to handle compared to a ten year old, uhm no. Even if the six year old isn't big, a flailing, screaming one ripping down shelves and throwing them at people isn't easy to contain. Plus, you really want a teacher putting their hands on your kid?

Nerdicornss · April 2012

Well, and not to mention there were other kids there too. This wasn't a 6 year old with a bunch of adults and no other children around, this was a 6 year old at a school with lots and lots of other kids around to get caught in the crossfire of her little shii!tfit. Even if a 6 year old couldn't cause much damage or bodily harm to an adult (I don't agree with that assessment personally but whatever), they could definitely severely hurt a fellow 6 year old.

Velvetshady · April 2012

Seeing the reaction of the parents of the child, I'm pretty sure any teacher attempting to restrain this child would be having complaints filed against them and civil lawsuits to face.I think calling the police was the best option they had.

And yeah, I'd believe a 6-year old that has gotten in trouble for a violent attack when they whine about being punished. Handcuffs are too tight, my ass. Handcuffs are keeping her from throwing more sh!t is way more likely.

Heather R · April 2012

grahamsm3:

I think everyone who works in a school should be trained. Anyone in my school who wants to can be trained in Safety Care. The first 8 hours of the training are learning how to NOT have to put hands on a child.

I disagree that educators should be expected to be involved physically with students. If this were an expectation of my English teaching position, I would never have entered the profession ::shrug::

Most cases of ASD in a public school setting are functional enough to not require restraint.

EloiseWeenieSkipperdee · April 2012

I've had a hard time restraining my 2 year old when he's throwing a tantrum.

I don't blame the teachers for calling the police at all. My husband grew up in Milledgeville, and the county's school system is very small and poor.

hindsight's_a_biotch · April 2012

Have you ever witnessed a six year old throwdown and the ensuing aftermath?

Lord, they can be little shitts AND they have a habit of claiming you're the meanest person evah, you hurt them, they have to potty, they have a booboo in the end game in the hopes that you'll buy their shiit and pardon them.

So yeah, I don't believe the handcuffs hurt either. Actually I do believe they hurt because I think she kept trying to pull her hands out of them instead of sitting still and waiting for her mom to come get her hot mess ass.

Nerdicornss · April 2012

Velvetshady:
Seeing the reaction of the parents of the child, I'm pretty sure any teacher attempting to restrain this child would be having complaints filed against them and civil lawsuits to face.I think calling the police was the best option they had.
And yeah, I'd believe a 6-year old that has gotten in trouble for a violent attack when they whine about being punished. Handcuffs are too tight, my ass. Handcuffs are keeping her from throwing more sh!t is way more likely.

I like to think that if it were my child I'd tell her she's lucky she's at the police station and not in my home because I'd be so tempted to rip out her arms and beat her half to death them.

</future abusive parent>

cvillebetrothed · April 2012

i don't see anything that says they DIDN'T try to restrain her first, using proper restraint methods. where my mom teaches (not in milledgeville, ga), usually the special ed teachers and counselors are trained in nonviolent take down (i do not know the correct terms). according to my mom, the second level is always a call to the cops because they're always trained in restraint, document stuff, and are, you know, the law.

i don't buy that she was in a holding cell. and i'm sure fighting like hell against handcuffs can make them feel tight too.

hindsight's_a_biotch · April 2012

Nerdicornss:

I like to think that if it were my child I'd tell her she's lucky she's at the police station and not in my home because I'd be so tempted to rip out her arms and beat her half to death them.

</future abusive parent>

Only half?

Show me up in public by throwing SHELVES, SHELVES for crying out loud and see if you ever feel sunshine on your face, you little assholio!

grahamsm3 · April 2012

Heather R:
grahamsm3:

I think everyone who works in a school should be trained. Anyone in my school who wants to can be trained in Safety Care. The first 8 hours of the training are learning how to NOT have to put hands on a child.

I disagree that educators should be expected to be involved physically with students. If this were an expectation of my English teaching position, I would never have entered the profession ::shrug::

And we get a lot of teachers who would rather not or who feel like the training requires them to intervene. It works like civilian CPR - no requirement to use it b/c you know it.

But there is no pressure or requirement to do it. I do tell people to at least think about going to the first day of the training, so they understand what they can do w/o touching and so that they know what they should do if they are in control of a class while trained people are trying to get a student out - and so that they will understand why we don't just grab them and haul their @ss of of class.

the gen ed teachers who have taken the training have enjoyed it.

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