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Clicky poll re: plagiarism

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Re: Clicky poll re: plagiarism

  • When my husband was doing his MBA, and working on group projects, he would frequently find himself entering his classmates' work into Google and finding it to be plagarized.  Since they were in his group, and his grade was on the line, he'd have to have a conversation with them, pointing out that what they did was plagarism.  They did not think what they were doing was wrong.
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  • imageESF1:
    When my husband was doing his MBA, and working on group projects, he would frequently find himself entering his classmates' work into Google and finding it to be plagarized.  Since they were in his group, and his grade was on the line, he'd have to have a conversation with them, pointing out that what they did was plagarism.  They did not think what they were doing was wrong.

    I hated group assignments. HATED them. So, you know what I would do? When it was time to introduce myself, I'd give a little background about myself and announce how I greatly disliked group assignments. Result: the students that I knew didn't pull their weight in the courses never asked me to be in a group with them. :) I would end up with the students who busted their azzes like I did and we always got an A on our group assignments. 

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  • imagebrideymcbriderson:
    imageAmeliaPond:

    No, but I was accused of it by one of my thesis advisers, because my writing was 'too well done'.

    Women are supposed to be dumb y'all. 


    I'd bet money it had to do less with the fact that you're a woman and more with the fact that most undergrads' writing is abysmal.

    It was grad school. Tongue Tied

  • On accident... from myself. I was published in my undergrad, and I forgot to cite myself when elaborating on that work in grad school. My professor pulled me aside and told me he found several direct quotes. Luckily I was able to pull the journal it was from and prove it was originally mine.
  • imageAmeliaPond:
    imagebrideymcbriderson:
    imageAmeliaPond:

    No, but I was accused of it by one of my thesis advisers, because my writing was 'too well done'.

    Women are supposed to be dumb y'all. 


    I'd bet money it had to do less with the fact that you're a woman and more with the fact that most undergrads' writing is abysmal.

    It was grad school. Tongue Tied

    Maybe your fellow grad students were terrible writers?

    I know that H catches most of his plagiarists simply because the writing will be heads and shoulders above everyone else's.  He did once talk to a student who, as it turned out, was just actually a good writer.  Sadly, it's a rare occurrence at many places.

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  • imageESF1:
    When my husband was doing his MBA, and working on group projects, he would frequently find himself entering his classmates' work into Google and finding it to be plagarized.  Since they were in his group, and his grade was on the line, he'd have to have a conversation with them, pointing out that what they did was plagarism.  They did not think what they were doing was wrong.

    This happened to me in grad school. The plagiarising party was a foreign student with very poor English skills. So there were paragraphs in very broken English followed by extremely polished academic language.  When we asked him about it he had no explanation and wouldn't change it.  2-3 paragraph sections could be googled in their entirety. The other woman and I decided to talk to the professor because the kid basically dropped out of the group after we confronted him and insisted that his contribution be submitted as-is. 

    The professor got super angry at us for bringing this to her attention and said we were making a big deal out of nothing to get an extension. When we pointed to the code of conduct she rolled her eyes. She refused to speak to him so we ended up just re-researching and writing his sections and slapping his name on he front. She hated me ever after, and she was my thesis advisor. God I'm glad I never have to go to grad school again.  All I wanted was for her to have a conversation with the poor guy and explain to him that what he had done was wrong--mostly for his own sake! 

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  • I did not.  However, in sixth grade I used a cheer from the Cheerleaders book series as my original cheer when I was trying out.  That could've been why I didn't make it, thus starting me down the slide into Sheldon Cooperdom.

    I still remember every kid I gave an "F" to for plagiarism.  The worst was when a kid had to write about books he read in his life; he picked one book and copied two or three pages from Wikipedia.

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  • I helped a freshman English teacher hunt for plagiarised work.  The most egregious example I found was a comment from some rinky dink Blogger site that was copied word for word

    I lost faith in humanity at that moment.  If you're going to rip off a source at least make it a reputable one! 

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  • It's easier to just write the footnote.  Really.  I write fabulously entertaining footnotes.
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  • imagebrideymcbriderson:

    I know that H catches most of his plagiarists simply because the writing will be heads and shoulders above everyone else's. 

    I think you already know this, but my H would agree 100% with this.  He has shared with me some of the writing that he gets from his college students and it is atrocious.  Anyone capable of stringing together words so as to form a grammatically-correct sentence is immediately suspected of plagiarism and said student's work is intergoogled. Tongue Tied

    I once copied a single sentence in fourth grade and was publicly humiliated by my teacher for doing so.  He announced to the class what I had done and ripped my paper in half.  I never did it again.  Protip: abuse students who plagiarize.  That'll learn 'em.

  • No. It wasn't worth getting kicked out of school or facing the wrath of my parents over.

     I did once submit a paper I had written at college X for a class I was taking at College Y.  However, college Y's accademic code of conduct stated that it was agaist the rules to re-sumbit a paper that had already been graded at College Y; it said nothing about papers submitted from other instuitions.  I got the excat same mark both times I submitted it.   

     

  • Never. I have way too much of a guilty conscience to do something like that. I know, I have morals, believe it or not.
  • imageAmeliaPond:

    No, but I was accused of it by one of my thesis advisers, because my writing was 'too well done'.

    Women are supposed to be dumb y'all. 


    That happened to me, too, except it was freshman English.  I was so pissed!  The TA (not an actual professor) refused to follow up on my cites and told me he'd flunk me if I didn't write a new paper.  Too bad I didn't think to look at the student handbook and appeal.  I cranked out some bullshit and ended up with a D anyway.  I'm still pissed. 

    My AP English teachers in high school were just awesome.  I remember senior year, a friend of mine at another school in AP English was learning how to diagram sentences while we were writing essays on Shakespeare.  I guess that was the sort of crap the TA was used to seeing. 

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  • imagetaratru:

    And let's not forget to recognize the parents who will fight tooth and nail against giving their kid a zero for plagiarism, even when confronted with concrete evidence. 

    :::headdesk:::

    So true.  I never had it happen, but I was sometimes worried about parental backlash when I gave the zero for the assignment. 

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  • Don't shade your eyes, plagiarize!

    One of my creative writing projects was a heavily modified version of a story I posted on the Internet.  Somewhat later it occurred to me that was a stupid thing to do, even though I was the original author of the story.  I had put it up anonymously, so if they'd noticed, I would have had a hard time proving it was mine... Fortunately the Internet was harder to search back then...

  • F*ck no, and no.  And not just because my university will kick students out for it (and I'm glad they do), but because it smacks of entitlement and is a demeaning insult to the intelligence of your professor.  Not only does it make you an idiot, it's just plain rude to the people who have to call you on it.

    Anyone who admits to it can't be trusted to do anything honestly, plain and simple.

    I'm an interior design student, where the lines between "collaboration," "homage," and "plagiarism" of your fellow students' work seem to be rather blurry.  But in writing, that line is pretty black and white and there are no excuses.

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  • I did once without knowing I did. I reused a high school paper for a college course ( with some edits). It was my paper, so I didn't even think it was a grey area. I found out later that it was considered plagiarism. I never ever would have done it had I known.
  • imagemrsbecky07:

    Blatantly or on purpose? No.  And I always cited the hell out of every research paper I ever wrote. But I'm sure there were times when I maybe didn't reword something sufficiently or whatever that someone on here would consider plagiarism, I guess?

    I'm thinking this desccribes me.  I don't think I would have plagiarized on purpose, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were portions here and there that I didn't cite well enough.

    Boy, did I hate writing papers.  Thankfully, in my undergrad years, I was an accounting major.  Also, in my grad years as an educaiton major there were only a few.

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  • imageIrishBrideND:
    I did once without knowing I did. I reused a high school paper for a college course ( with some edits). It was my paper, so I didn't even think it was a grey area. I found out later that it was considered plagiarism. I never ever would have done it had I known.

    If it makes you feel better, I've seen professionals who have been publishing for years that don't grasp self-plagiarism.  Worse yet, I've seen them think it applies to their own previously published work, where there is typically a copyright shared with the publisher.  It boggles the mind that some of them defend even that with "But I wrote it, so it's mine and I can use it however I want again and again!" (OK, so they don't say that exactly, but close.)


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