Intermitting Fasting

halston345 · May 2012

Husband and I are looking to shake things up a bit and have been reading about intermittent fasting. I can't remember which one dh is looking at, I am looking at Eat Stop Eat. Anyone tried it?

robinsokj · May 2012

What is the point?

Sadlebred · May 2012

I don't think any of us here would condone fasting as a way to lose weight. It's not healthy.*

*There are those that may fast for short periods of time for religious reasons. I'm not talking about them.

dirtyred · May 2012

I fast for about 12 hours every day. From dinner until breakfast the next morning.

PrincessPeach05 · May 2012

dirtyred:
I fast for about 12 hours every day. From dinner until breakfast the next morning.

Yes

GRKaters · May 2012

I'm going to write a book called "Eat, Eat Again, Eat a Little Bit More."

Mmm...fooooood.

No, wait! "Eat Eat Repeat."

clseale13 · May 2012

It's it supposed to be like calorie cycling? Is that the point? I think it's another gimmick diet. I don't know much about this diet, but I am not a fan of denying your body food when it's hungry. What I am a fan of is listening to your body and giving it the nutrients it needs.

I don't understand diets that are based around tricking your body. Why does your body need to be tricked? I would be a horrid, horrid person if I tried something like this. When I get hungry and my blood sugar drops, I get all kinds of cranky. lol

*Krista* · May 2012

It's definitely not for me, but lots of people have success with it. IF is primarily used by body builders so I'm not sure that it's the best option for someone who just wants to lose a few pounds.

If you're going to try it, Eat Stop Eat is the right starting point. Also look into Martin Berkhan. He's the expert.

rayofsunshine99 · May 2012

I don't know anything about intermittent fasting. I did a 3-day juice fast (freshly juiced organic vegetables and fruits, 3X a day) a year and a half ago as a detox regimen, but that was for just that - detox purposes. I am not sure what you mean by shaking things up.

Also take note that most, if not all of the weight lost on any kind of fast, will come back on when you resume your normal eating habits again.

clseale13 · May 2012

abbycobb812:

dirtyred:
I fast for about 12 hours every day. From dinner until breakfast the next morning.

lol. And even that can be torture, IMO.

Wouldn't fasting potentially just send your body into starvation mode and make it start storing fat?

Oh. no. I just looked it up. He assures you on his website that it in fact will not do this. lol

OP, how long do you fast for? I'm not being a smart ass...I really know nothing about this and I'm curious as to what their logic is behind it.

AGsWife · May 2012

GRKaters:
I'm going to write a book called "Eat, Eat Again, Eat a Little Bit More."
Mmm...fooooood.

No, wait! "Eat Eat Repeat."

I will buy and read this book.

GRKaters · May 2012

AGsWife:
GRKaters:
I'm going to write a book called "Eat, Eat Again, Eat a Little Bit More."
Mmm...fooooood.

No, wait! "Eat Eat Repeat."
I will buy and read this book.

Party!!! My first sale!

julie1408 · May 2012

If you really are interested, Mark's Daily Apple had a seven part series on IF.

BQBride · May 2012

I am really interested in this as well, but don't think it's a good idea for me right now. It's supposed to help you reap the benefits of both calorie restriction and calorie cycling without having to do intensive fasts.

robinsokj · May 2012

BQBride:
I am really interested in this as well, but don't think it's a good idea for me right now. It's supposed to help you reap the benefits of both calorie restriction and calorie cycling without having to do intensive fasts.

And What are the benefits?

beeeyotch · May 2012

GRKaters:
AGsWife:
GRKaters:
I'm going to write a book called "Eat, Eat Again, Eat a Little Bit More."
Mmm...fooooood.

No, wait! "Eat Eat Repeat."
I will buy and read this book.
My first sale!

Me too! I loooove food!!

beeeyotch · May 2012

Dup

mr+ms · May 2012

robinsokj:
And What are the benefits?

The link above has some interesting info - lots of animal studies referenced though. In a nutshell, the human benefits they note are:

- improving insulin sensitivity/reducing insulin resistance

- increasing fat oxidation while sparing lean mass

- some people may find it easier to do a variation on IF/ADF than to restrict calories on a daily basis

I don't think it's something you want to do if you rely on a carb-heavy diet or you'll end up a cranky mess.

Kellina · May 2012

Maybe you could just schedule a colonoscopy... not only do you get to eat a liquid diet for 24hrs, but you also get to crap your brains out! Guaranteed to lose about 10lb in one day!

However... the second you eat food again, it alllll goes back on.

Sorry. I just don't see the point of fasting. Eat healthy- calories in and calories burned is what counts!

Mrs Manners · May 2012

*Krista*:
It's definitely not for me, but lots of people have success with it. IF is primarily used by body builders so I'm not sure that it's the best option for someone who just wants to lose a few pounds.
If you're going to try it, Eat Stop Eat is the right starting point. Also look into Martin Berkhan. He's the expert.

My dh follows Martin's program. I have no idea why people have such a negative connotation about INTERMITTENT fasting? As defined by Martin's program, you simply don't eat for 16 straight hours each day (you are asleep half that time anyway). I think if you said, "Has anybody had success limiting their caloric intake to an 8 hour window?" you'd probably have all kinds of people who responded in support. Martin's particular program entails more than just fasting and outlines a very specific diet plan for weight, age, activity level, BMR and goals. He defines the type foods and macros for training vs non training days and prescribes specific types of exercise (primarily heavy lifting and little/no cardio). The plan is specifically designed to support weight loss of 1-2 lbs per week and no more. So if your post had said, "What do you guys think about eating healthy foods during an eight hour window, lifting heavy weights and controlled weight loss of 1-2 lbs per week?" I'm guessing most of these people who responded negatively would have been totally supportive.

robinsokj · May 2012

I really don't see why tricking your body is better than just doing things the right way

*Krista* · May 2012

Mrs Manners:
*Krista*:
It's definitely not for me, but lots of people have success with it. IF is primarily used by body builders so I'm not sure that it's the best option for someone who just wants to lose a few pounds.
If you're going to try it, Eat Stop Eat is the right starting point. Also look into Martin Berkhan. He's the expert.
My dh follows Martin's program. I have no idea why people have such a negative connotation about INTERMITTENT fasting? As defined by Martin's program, you simply don't eat for 16 straight hours each day (you are asleep half that time anyway). I think if you said, "Has anybody had success limiting their caloric intake to an 8 hour window?" you'd probably have all kinds of people who responded in support. Martin's particular program entails more than just fasting and outlines a very specific diet plan for weight, age, activity level, BMR and goals. He defines the type foods and macros for training vs non training days and prescribes specific types of exercise (primarily heavy lifting and little/no cardio). The plan is specifically designed to support weight loss of 1-2 lbs per week and no more. So if your post had said, "What do you guys think about eating healthy foods during an eight hour window, lifting heavy weights and controlled weight loss of 1-2 lbs per week?" I'm guessing most of these people who responded negatively would have been totally supportive.

exactly. I completely agree. Again, it's not for me, but it's obviously not what people think it is. It's gaining popularity for legitimate reasons. We spent quite a bit of time discussing its merits in my Sports Nutrition class.

Mrs Manners · May 2012

robinsokj:
I really don't see why tricking your body is better than just doing things the right way

Is the right way for you the right way for everyone? Regardless of goals? Lifestyle? Preferences? Is there only one right way?

clseale13 · May 2012

Mrs Manners:
*Krista*:
It's definitely not for me, but lots of people have success with it. IF is primarily used by body builders so I'm not sure that it's the best option for someone who just wants to lose a few pounds.
If you're going to try it, Eat Stop Eat is the right starting point. Also look into Martin Berkhan. He's the expert.
My dh follows Martin's program. I have no idea why people have such a negative connotation about INTERMITTENT fasting? As defined by Martin's program, you simply don't eat for 16 straight hours each day (you are asleep half that time anyway). I think if you said, "Has anybody had success limiting their caloric intake to an 8 hour window?" you'd probably have all kinds of people who responded in support. Martin's particular program entails more than just fasting and outlines a very specific diet plan for weight, age, activity level, BMR and goals. He defines the type foods and macros for training vs non training days and prescribes specific types of exercise (primarily heavy lifting and little/no cardio). The plan is specifically designed to support weight loss of 1-2 lbs per week and no more. So if your post had said, "What do you guys think about eating healthy foods during an eight hour window, lifting heavy weights and controlled weight loss of 1-2 lbs per week?" I'm guessing most of these people who responded negatively would have been totally supportive.

So as an example, you'd eat breakfast, lunch & dinner...maybe snacks, but then just not eat from 6PM to 10AM? That's what they consider fasting? I eat like 6 small meals a day, so this would clearly not work for my lifestyle or be something I'd consider, but it doesn't sound that bad (if the above is factual.) I wouldn't really consider that a fast.

Mrs Manners · May 2012

clseale13:
Mrs Manners:
*Krista*:
It's definitely not for me, but lots of people have success with it. IF is primarily used by body builders so I'm not sure that it's the best option for someone who just wants to lose a few pounds.
If you're going to try it, Eat Stop Eat is the right starting point. Also look into Martin Berkhan. He's the expert.
My dh follows Martin's program. I have no idea why people have such a negative connotation about INTERMITTENT fasting? As defined by Martin's program, you simply don't eat for 16 straight hours each day (you are asleep half that time anyway). I think if you said, "Has anybody had success limiting their caloric intake to an 8 hour window?" you'd probably have all kinds of people who responded in support. Martin's particular program entails more than just fasting and outlines a very specific diet plan for weight, age, activity level, BMR and goals. He defines the type foods and macros for training vs non training days and prescribes specific types of exercise (primarily heavy lifting and little/no cardio). The plan is specifically designed to support weight loss of 1-2 lbs per week and no more. So if your post had said, "What do you guys think about eating healthy foods during an eight hour window, lifting heavy weights and controlled weight loss of 1-2 lbs per week?" I'm guessing most of these people who responded negatively would have been totally supportive.
So as an example, you'd eat breakfast, lunch & dinner...maybe snacks, but then just not eat from 6PM to 10AM? That's what they consider fasting? I eat like 6 small meals a day, so this would clearly not work for my lifestyle or be something I'd consider, but it doesn't sound that bad (if the above is factual.) I wouldn't really consider that a fast.

Essentially, yes. The timing of when you eat and when you work out is coordinated (dh works out and then immediately has his first meal) and is confined to an 8 hour window starting with the time of your first meal. It's considered "imtermittent" fasting because it lasts for short duration and then starts over again. Dh has seen a lot of fat loss and strength gains while following the program. If he loses more than two lbs per week, he has to adjust his calories up because it's supposed to be controlled fat loss without sacrificing strength or muscle mass. I don't personally follow the program but that's because it's just my preference not to follow a controlled and counted calorie/macro plan, not because I don't think it works or isn't healthy.

EssaL · May 2012

'Cause it's not tricking your body. There is nothing natural about eating at set intervals.

robinsokj:
I really don't see why tricking your body is better than just doing things the right way

robinsokj · May 2012

Ugh. I could have sworn I read somethig about trickery. These damn kids need to start sleeping again

clseale13 · May 2012

robinsokj:
Ugh. I could have sworn I read somethig about trickery. These damn kids need to start sleeping again

That's probably because I asked if it was meant to "trick" your body because the Eat Stop Eat website says this:

"This is strategic weight loss at it's finest - All of the hormone-manipulating, calorie-cycling, weight-loss-causing techniques you could imagine, rolled into one simple to follow, easy-to-start diet plan"

Kellina · May 2012

clseale13:
Mrs Manners:
*Krista*:
It's definitely not for me, but lots of people have success with it. IF is primarily used by body builders so I'm not sure that it's the best option for someone who just wants to lose a few pounds.
If you're going to try it, Eat Stop Eat is the right starting point. Also look into Martin Berkhan. He's the expert.
My dh follows Martin's program. I have no idea why people have such a negative connotation about INTERMITTENT fasting? As defined by Martin's program, you simply don't eat for 16 straight hours each day (you are asleep half that time anyway). I think if you said, "Has anybody had success limiting their caloric intake to an 8 hour window?" you'd probably have all kinds of people who responded in support. Martin's particular program entails more than just fasting and outlines a very specific diet plan for weight, age, activity level, BMR and goals. He defines the type foods and macros for training vs non training days and prescribes specific types of exercise (primarily heavy lifting and little/no cardio). The plan is specifically designed to support weight loss of 1-2 lbs per week and no more. So if your post had said, "What do you guys think about eating healthy foods during an eight hour window, lifting heavy weights and controlled weight loss of 1-2 lbs per week?" I'm guessing most of these people who responded negatively would have been totally supportive.
So as an example, you'd eat breakfast, lunch & dinner...maybe snacks, but then just not eat from 6PM to 10AM? That's what they consider fasting? I eat like 6 small meals a day, so this would clearly not work for my lifestyle or be something I'd consider, but it doesn't sound that bad (if the above is factual.) I wouldn't really consider that a fast.

I agree- I wouldn't call that fasting either! To me, fasting is not eating at all for an entire day or something.

clseale13 · May 2012

EssaL:

'Cause it's not tricking your body. There is nothing natural about eating at set intervals.

robinsokj:
I really don't see why tricking your body is better than just doing things the right way

I'm not knocking this diet, but tell me what's natural about forcing yourself to not eat for 16 hrs if you're hungry and your body is asking for food? I certainly don't think it sounds like fasting or starvation, but how is that more natural than just eating healthful food when you're hungry? If you're consciously NOT eating when you're hungry (genuinely hungry) and your body is asking for food, you ARE kind of tricking it and doing something unnatural, no? I'm not saying it can't work or can't be healthy to a point...but ffs, go to these websites, they kind of scream "latest and greatest gimmick." I'm a firm believer in doing whatever works for you, but people's skeptical questions about this diet have been fair.

misskrysbaby · May 2012

Oy, eat this then, don't eat for this many hours, eat this many hours after working out, stop eating by this time...sheesh...I'm totally the kind of girl that likes to eat, when I want to eat, and makes sure that I work out enough times a week to be able to do that. I've been able to lose, then maintain, successfully for 2 years now. I eat healthy, don't splurge too often and take vitamins and supplements. I'm not one for diets that tell you to take out whole food groups or not eat for extended periods of time. I'd go crazy within the first week.

Eh, it's not for me.

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